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$5 submissions 02-01-2011 04:03 PM
Great thread, diversify your income

carzygirls 02-01-2011 04:42 PM
Is their also a recommendation on which merchant account providers to use and which to not?
Would have saved me $600 when I started mainstream.

Here is free info:
Don't use charge.com or cybersource.com. Do not use authorize.net who is also cybersource.com
Anybody who wants a good recommendation and knows how to get a hold of me can ;) That information I will provide for free and maybe the favor is returned one day :)

Oracle Porn 02-01-2011 04:57 PM
I'll take a review copy and promise to report back
icq is in sig or email me @ my nick name no spaces dot com

alias 02-01-2011 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by carzygirls (Post 17884890)
Is their also a recommendation on which merchant account providers to use and which to not?
Would have saved me $600 when I started mainstream.

Here is free info:
Don't use charge.com or cybersource.com. Do not use authorize.net who is also cybersource.com
Anybody who wants a good recommendation and knows how to get a hold of me can ;) That information I will provide for free and maybe the favor is returned one day :)
Most people should probably use their local bank and a reputable gateway for hard goods.

Buzz 02-01-2011 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Kiopa_Matt (Post 17881947)
Why does every mainstream marketing landing page look EXACTLY the same? I guess the same goes for the majority within the porn industry as well. Really, it's always some unrealistic stock images with suitcases of cash, people throwing money around, mansions, luxury cars, or whatever. Then white background, large, bold blue & red text (sometimes green!), page is always centered, they all have lead capture forms to get a free gift, and they ALWAYS put about 15 pages of text on one web page (that's very annoying -- learn some organizational skills if you want to sell me on something).

Then you visit mainstream marketing forums, and you constantly see people complaining, "Well geez, I just don't understand, why aren't I rich yet? I'm doing everything right! I have found a ClickBank product to sell, have my Aweber account, some crappy & long-winded sales page with photos of cash, and an opt-in list. I followed everything that $7 eBook told me too, but I'm just not making any money! What am I doing wrong?"
exactly my thought's when I've opened the link... well, not that extencive, but you've got the idea :pimp

lauralace 02-01-2011 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17884694)
For those of you that think those style of landing pages don't cut it.... split test them. You see this style because they work - far better than traditional styles, to such an extreme that when these landing pages fail, they still out perform the traditional styles, making it worth doing even if it sucks.
Exactly. :)

lauralace 02-02-2011 03:03 AM
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Originally Posted by atom (Post 17884783)
I agree 100%. Personally, making the transition from adult was tough. There are very few similarities between the 2 as far as traffic generation, site layouts, etc etc.

Once I started I spent months wading through bullshit info, trial and error, finding out what really worked and what was a complete waste of time.
Yeah I've seen it again and again with people on other adult forums attempting to get into mainstream and having a hard go of it. The questions are always the same so I figured why not put it all in one place, make it easier for everyone :)

ristac 02-06-2011 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by atom (Post 17884783)
I agree 100%. Personally, making the transition from adult was tough. There are very few similarities between the 2 as far as traffic generation, site layouts, etc etc.

Once I started I spent months wading through bullshit info, trial and error, finding out what really worked and what was a complete waste of time. If 20 bucks were to save someone even 10 hours of time to give them a direction to hit the ground running, it would be worth it.
+1

I have been a lurker here for a while but finally sent the email off to activate my account so I could post in this thread. I make a decent living from adult, not as great a living as I was 18 months ago so I started to dabble in mainstream in case things get worse.

I thought if you can do adult mainstream will be a breeze. After three months I started to see that it wasn't going to be the same, far from it.

lauralace ran a mainstream project at another forum where I am a member and I followed it to the letter to the end. I saw a big difference, I haven't seen the book but once I have done the rinse and repeat a few times I will purchase it.

If you haven't yet tried to make the switch from adult to mainstream don't knock it, my bet is it won't be anywhere near as easy as you will assume ;)

CaptainHowdy 02-06-2011 05:32 PM
You don't look healthy, Laura...

wehateporn 02-06-2011 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by FlexxAeon (Post 17881972)
seems like going 'mainstream' requires selling & reselling the same dream....
Hit the Nail on the head

I actually like the way this guy explains things, but I find it hard to believe he would bother with this blog if he was really making as much with other projects as he claims http://www.smartpassiveincome.com/

Vjo 02-06-2011 05:40 PM
51 successful mainstream marketers

first time I hit a 51 :) even beat the Howdyinater :)

curses foiled again

wehateporn 02-06-2011 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 17882280)
I don't have anything personal against you but these posts always make me cynical. If you were doing great in mainstream you wouldn't be here trying to pitch an online book to a handful of adult webmasters for a petty $20. You'd be out making more money with your time. You wouldn't be giving out secrets to hungry potential competitors looking to make an exit from a struggling industry.
Exactly, I find it amazing that more people don't think of this

lauralace 02-06-2011 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 17897928)
Exactly, I find it amazing that more people don't think of this
Because unlike adult, it just isn't true in mainstream except for a few uninspired keywords like 'lose weight' or 'make money online'.

Once you learn how to pick keywords there just isn't enough competition to worry about in any given niche. There are millions of niches in mainstream and less than a hundred of those are too saturated to pursue.

jkthedesigner 02-06-2011 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by lauralace (Post 17897989)
Because unlike adult, it just isn't true in mainstream except for a few uninspired keywords like 'lose weight' or 'make money online'.

Once you learn how to pick keywords there just isn't enough competition to worry about in any given niche. There are millions of niches in mainstream and less than a hundred of those are too saturated to pursue.
I disagree. Between my friends' network of sites, we've got over 1,000 that aren't worth pursuing because unless you can perform miracles, you aren't going to start a site today and outrank us any time soon. So be happy with at the max, getting 20% of the traffic that we get for those keywords.

The truth is, a lot of mainstream is over-saturated. On the other hand, there are still a lot of diamonds in the rough and there are ALWAYS new products coming. Just keep on your toes and make your bets wisely. In mainstream people start cornering the big products before they even come out.

The best thing about mainstream is you can make something "viral." End of story. And if lauralace figured the exact since on how to do this, she'd be talking to Coke, McDonalds, etc. not GFY.

lauralace 02-27-2012 05:23 AM
Just an update that this book is now available as a kindle version.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007E2KTWQ

The kindle version does not include the websites so it's a reduced price, but does include all the info the regular book has so nothing required is missing.

Quote:
Originally Posted by lauralace (Post 17881862)
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