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Scootermuze

03-23-2011 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17997940)

At what point in time did Kennedy get permission to send troops to Vietnam? This was a "military conflict" where no one declared war that ended up with tens of thousands of Americans dead.

Actually it was a police action, and you're right.. War was never declared..
I'm not even sure that war was formally declared on Iraq...

IllTestYourGirls

03-23-2011 04:36 PM

NATO approval or request does not equal authority for the president of the United STATES to attack another country.

Just because "it has been done before" does not mean it is legal, correct or moral. People kill other people all the time, does that make it just and legal?

Rochard

03-23-2011 05:00 PM

War Powers Act, Title 50, Chapter 33, section 1542:

Quote:

The President in every possible instance shall consult with Congress before introducing United States Armed Forces into hostilities or into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances, and after every such introduction shall consult regularly with the Congress until United States Armed Forces are no longer engaged in hostilities or have been removed from such situations.

I read this as "President must consult with Congress before sending armed forces into hostilities". It says consult, not get permission.

directfiesta

03-23-2011 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17999241)

So by the standards of the liberals on this forum, Obama is now a war criminal?

Simple answer : YES.

pornmasta

03-23-2011 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17997796)

Can Obama order troops to bomb another country?

YES WE CAN... :2 cents:

pornmasta

03-23-2011 08:00 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_against_peace

cykoe6

03-23-2011 08:11 PM

Impeach the war criminal!!! Obama lied and people died!

_Richard_

03-23-2011 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18000262)

War Powers Act, Title 50, Chapter 33, section 1542:

I read this as "President must consult with Congress before sending armed forces into hostilities". It says consult, not get permission.

yea but what is 'consult' defined as?

egonspengler3

03-23-2011 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17997796)

On a few non adult boards it seems there is a lot of discussion about if the President of the United States can order the US Military to attack another country without approval from Congress.

What does GFY think?

I say yes. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article...ies.3B_Pardons

egon

egonspengler3

03-23-2011 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV (Post 17997821)

Congress itself can also declare war, but remember that the president can veto their decision.

Veto powers don't apply to declaration of war powers. Veto is only for legislation.

egon

DirtyDanza

03-23-2011 09:14 PM

he is the Commander and Chief of all armed forces

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