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vanillaice 06-09-2011 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 18204945)
The diving and embellishment that goes on is pretty sucky and pathetic, agreed.

Is it really all on the Canucks, or have a few Bruins players done it too?

Bruins have done it, every team does it. That being said, for some reason both the Canadiens and Canucks were major divers (surprisingly Montreal was about 2-3x worse than Van has been). Canucks are more of a cheap shot team, while Montreal really looked like a Soccer team on ice... or a bunch of Lebron James:

https://youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=HxEQ1U_8xlc
https://youtube.com/watch?v=OCo5U...layer_embedded

_Richard_ 06-09-2011 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 18204886)
Ha ha.


Regarding last night's game, some pretty bad reffing going on at times, especially in the turd period, a non-call on Boston for too man men on the ice, and one of the worst penalty calls I've ever seen on one of the Sedin brothers for "tripping". Ugh.

But sadly I doubt the absence of that bad reffing would have greatly affected the outcome of the game. Canucks got whipped, period.

my favourite is the slashing penalties.. helps remove all doubt :thumbsup

Just Alex 06-09-2011 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 18204927)
If the refs called a penalty every time a Vancouver Caschmuck dived or embelished they would be shorthanded the whole game. Vancouver is embarrassment to the NHL they way they dive and embelish.

I think you need to stop talking about hockey. Just because your fat ass gets to skate few times a week in I-league doesn't mean you know the game. :2 cents:
so STFU.

amacontent 06-09-2011 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 18204945)
The diving and embellishment that goes on is pretty sucky and pathetic, agreed.

Is it really all on the Canucks, or have a few Bruins players done it too?

No the Bruins are embelishing also but its truely pathetic how the Caschmucks try and get a call on every play. Like I said in another post I was working in the zamboni tunnel during a Kings - Caschmucks game and I heard ref yell to Sedin.. " ARE YOU KIDDING ME< GET THE FUCK UP "

On that note WTF is that rookie Brad Marchand thinking.. its 4-0 game is over and he clotheslines a player in the corner then goes at another players knees and upends him. Game was over, let sleeping dogs lie. Look what happened when that asshat Rome did that play that turned the series around. Marchands play was not as bad but just as stupid.

What the NHL should do is make diving a suspendable offense. If the review shows a dive or embelishment, suspend them 1 game, if it continues make the suspension worse. Only problem is when your on the ice sometimes theres a reflex to turn your head quick in order to protect yourself.

You seem pretty knowlegeable CDSMITH whats your thoughts.

Far-L 06-09-2011 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18205153)
I think you need to stop talking about hockey. Just because your fat ass gets to skate few times a week in I-league doesn't mean you know the game. :2 cents:
so STFU.

Having skated with Joe and checked out Kings games at his most gracious invitation, I can personally verify that Joe knows more about hockey than most. Now, you may not agree with what he is saying about the Canuckleundertheplayoffpressures but that does not mean that Joe don't know hockey...

;-)

(btw... I am not a Boston fan but you got to hand it to them for turning this into a real playoff series when most expected Vancouver to just zamboni over them in 4)

Elli 06-09-2011 02:09 PM

I thought Don Cherry's tirade about the hardened shoulder pads was very interesting. He has a great point. They're not afraid to dig into their shoulder checks these days because they're so well protected. Just like people drive too fast in their cars now because they feel they have super duper brakes and airbags all over the place.

Just Alex 06-09-2011 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 18205423)
Having skated with Joe and checked out Kings games at his most gracious invitation, I can personally verify that Joe knows more about hockey than most. Now, you may not agree with what he is saying about the Canuckleundertheplayoffpressures but that does not mean that Joe don't know hockey...

;-)

(btw... I am not a Boston fan but you got to hand it to them for turning this into a real playoff series when most expected Vancouver to just zamboni over them in 4)

Based on his previous "ASSestments" of Canadashmucks or what ever he calls them, he knows jackshit. He can't even tell if player was hit by elbow or shoulder despite of gif file that was showed to him and replay video in slow motion. He can't even count strides for fuck sake. Guy is a duffas.

PS: Im not Vancouver fan, but I've played the game and been hit and layed a hit on players that have their head down this way. Had Horton had his head up and didn't get hurt people would be saying "What a great check that was".

Just Alex 06-09-2011 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Elli (Post 18205448)
I thought Don Cherry's tirade about the hardened shoulder pads was very interesting. He has a great point. They're not afraid to dig into their shoulder checks these days because they're so well protected. Just like people drive too fast in their cars now because they feel they have super duper brakes and airbags all over the place.

For once he said something rational. :2 cents:
But what does ex-coach of Boston Bruins knows about ice hockey? It the overweight jobless porn shooters that know it all. Grapes is so over-rated.

vanillaice 06-09-2011 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18205475)
Based on his previous "ASSestments" of Canadashmucks or what ever he calls them, he knows jackshit. He can't even tell if player was hit by elbow or shoulder despite of gif file that was showed to him and replay video in slow motion. He can't even count strides for fuck sake. Guy is a duffas.

PS: Im not Vancouver fan, but I've played the game and been hit and layed a hit on players that have their head down this way. Had Horton had his head up and didn't get hurt people would be saying "What a great check that was".

Is this satire or are you being serious? Horton had his head up, and Rome stepped into his check so much that it took him off his skates when it happened. You don't leave your skates from an open ice hit unless your body motion (up) was taking you that direction.

Are people actually debating this hit? There was no avoiding this hit on Horton's part.

Far-L 06-09-2011 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18205475)
Based on his previous "ASSestments" of Canadashmucks or what ever he calls them, he knows jackshit. He can't even tell if player was hit by elbow or shoulder despite of gif file that was showed to him and replay video in slow motion. He can't even count strides for fuck sake. Guy is a duffas.

PS: Im not Vancouver fan, but I've played the game and been hit and layed a hit on players that have their head down this way. Had Horton had his head up and didn't get hurt people would be saying "What a great check that was".

I just watched it again and while I agree that Horton should have had his head up that was a dirty hit. Looking up wouldn't change how late it was delivered or the fact that Rome left the ice with both feet like he was going to fly like Superman and went intentionally head high. If he went lower with a hip check and didn't jump off into it then probably it would be another story. If. If. If...

Another part of the problem is that in youth hockey today playing "heads up" hockey is way different than when I was growing up and everyone played without helmets still. Most of the stickhandling hot shots of today's game wouldn't last a week in the days of the Broadstreet Bully style of play where the head being down was like death wish and suicide passes were a contract with the Grim Reaper wielding a hockey stick like a scythe.

KillerK 06-09-2011 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 18205646)
I just watched it again and while I agree that Horton should have had his head up that was a dirty hit. Looking up wouldn't change how late it was delivered or the fact that Rome left the ice with both feet like he was going to fly like Superman and went intentionally head high. If he went lower with a hip check and didn't jump off into it then probably it would be another story. If. If. If...

Another part of the problem is that in youth hockey today playing "heads up" hockey is way different than when I was growing up and everyone played without helmets still. Most of the stickhandling hot shots of today's game wouldn't last a week in the days of the Broadstreet Bully style of play where the head being down was like death wish and suicide passes were a contract with the Grim Reaper wielding a hockey stick like a scythe.

The hit was fine, stop trying to pussfy the game. Only problem with the hit was
that it was a bit late.

Just Alex 06-09-2011 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by vanillaice (Post 18205506)
Is this satire or are you being serious? Horton had his head up, and Rome stepped into his check so much that it took him off his skates when it happened. You don't leave your skates from an open ice hit unless your body motion (up) was taking you that direction.

Are people actually debating this hit? There was no avoiding this hit on Horton's part.

Are fucking with me the same way your fatass buddy was?

Head up? Maybe up his ass. watching the puck go and crunched.

Enjoy.. head up eh? Count how many strides he makes after he lets the puck go and getting hit. One stride.. You knwo what that translates to in real motion? less than a fucking second. You ever played defense ? You know the basic rules of blue line forechecking . Im not talking about playing in "over 50 and 300lbs" league.. Talking about competitive hockey?


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Just Alex 06-09-2011 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KillerK (Post 18205931)
The hit was fine, stop trying to pussfy the game. Only problem with the hit was
that it was a bit late.

and that Horton got hurt. :2 cents:
Otherwise its a 2 minute interference max.

amacontent 06-09-2011 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 18205423)
Having skated with Joe and checked out Kings games at his most gracious invitation, I can personally verify that Joe knows more about hockey than most. Now, you may not agree with what he is saying about the Canuckleundertheplayoffpressures but that does not mean that Joe don't know hockey...

;-)

(btw... I am not a Boston fan but you got to hand it to them for turning this into a real playoff series when most expected Vancouver to just zamboni over them in 4)

Hey buddy nice to see your input. Dont worry about that asshats comments. Hes obviously a 10 time Stanley Cup champ and knows everything. Hes the bst player on the planet. I have him on ignore so I wont have to see him anymore... unless I wanna get an ad on Juicy hahahaha Ads. Im hoping he doesnt actually work for them as his online presence is a joke for any buisness model. Hit me up if you wanna skate opening night at staples.

Just Alex 06-09-2011 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 18206162)
I have him on ignore so I wont have to see him anymore...

I thought you wanted to play a game? Now you don't want to see me any more fatso?
Whats "open ice" like in LA these days? Bunch of fat fucks dressed up in cheap replica jerseys with misspelled names of HOF players trying to skate around and push "THAT" thing in the goal?

vanillaice 06-09-2011 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18205991)
Are fucking with me the same way your fatass buddy was?

Head up? Maybe up his ass. watching the puck go and crunched.

Enjoy.. head up eh? Count how many strides he makes after he lets the puck go and getting hit. One stride.. You knwo what that translates to in real motion? less than a fucking second. You ever played defense ? You know the basic rules of blue line forechecking . Im not talking about playing in "over 50 and 300lbs" league.. Talking about competitive hockey?

Actually I did play defense for my high school hockey team and various pickup leagues after that. Have you? Wait, that's irrelevant, let me ask a better question, do you have eyes? Ok, good. So you can see from this video https://youtube.com/watch?v=eXi7TM7moP4 he got rid of the puck at the edge of the B, yet Rome had time to stop, and hit him in an upward motion roughly 10 feet away, almost 2 full strides. That gif you're showing doesn't even show Horton with the puck and still shows him nearly taking 2 strides.

Look at that video, he had plenty of time to let up on the hit. Should he have hit him at all? I don't really have a problem with the timing. Like everyone is saying, it was a tad late, but we see checks being finished more-so in the playoffs, that's life. The problem was that he seen Horton wasn't looking, had time to react to it, but chose to lay into him in the upward motion aiming AT HIS HEAD.

Your gif clearly shows his shoulder laying into Horton's head. Horton is 6'2 and Rome is 6'1. It's not like Chara out there who's shoulder is at everyones head level. It's not easy to hit a guy in the head an inch taller than you in the head unless you intend to. That's the dirty part you're clearly not understanding.

Spunky 06-09-2011 09:54 PM

The refs are paid off obviously.The big US market is more important to the NHL than a little Canadian city.NBC dictates what they want for ratings.let the Bruins hack and slash in order to win.Nothing would be more satisfying than to watch people eat their words
It ain't over till the fat lady sings

vanillaice 06-09-2011 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18205995)
and that Horton got hurt. :2 cents:
Otherwise its a 2 minute interference max.

lol, so you admit it was a late enough hit to warrant a penalty, and assuming you have eyes, can clearly see his shoulder in Horton's head, and if you have reading comprehension, here:

48.1 Illegal Check to the Head ? A lateral or blind side hit to an opponent where the head is targeted and/or the principal point of contact is not permitted.

You admitting Horton was not looking makes this a blind side hit to the head. What's difficult for that to understand?

vanillaice 06-09-2011 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Spunky (Post 18206183)
The refs are paid off obviously.The big US market is more important to the NHL than a little Canadian city.NBC dictates what they want for ratings.let the Bruins hack and slash in order to win.Nothing would be more satisfying than to watch people eat their words
It ain't over till the fat lady sings

The refs are paid off? What makes you say that? They've had plenty of bad calls on both sides this series. The Sedin penalty was a bad one, but so was the earlier Marchand call. Then later in the game they had matching penalties off the face-off from two weak slashes that I think shocked both players for being called.

Honestly, the Bruins have been one of the best 5 on 5 teams in the playoffs, so if anything, calling penalties for them hurts more than even strength lol.

vanillaice 06-09-2011 10:06 PM

Btw, if the NHL wanted ratings with American teams, they would have just made Chicago knock off Vancouver right away and brought them to the finals to face another original 6 team in Boston.

Spunky 06-09-2011 10:10 PM

I believe in EA which called the Canucks to win in 7...also the parrot that picks out the cards..
TBH it's a home series..Canucks for the win..bet the farm..I see it

_Richard_ 06-09-2011 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by vanillaice (Post 18206182)
Actually I did play defense for my high school hockey team and various pickup leagues after that. Have you? Wait, that's irrelevant, let me ask a better question, do you have eyes? Ok, good. So you can see from this video https://youtube.com/watch?v=eXi7TM7moP4 he got rid of the puck at the edge of the B, yet Rome had time to stop, and hit him in an upward motion roughly 10 feet away, almost 2 full strides. That gif you're showing doesn't even show Horton with the puck and still shows him nearly taking 2 strides.

Look at that video, he had plenty of time to let up on the hit. Should he have hit him at all? I don't really have a problem with the timing. Like everyone is saying, it was a tad late, but we see checks being finished more-so in the playoffs, that's life. The problem was that he seen Horton wasn't looking, had time to react to it, but chose to lay into him in the upward motion aiming AT HIS HEAD.

Your gif clearly shows his shoulder laying into Horton's head. Horton is 6'2 and Rome is 6'1. It's not like Chara out there who's shoulder is at everyones head level. It's not easy to hit a guy in the head an inch taller than you in the head unless you intend to. That's the dirty part you're clearly not understanding.

that all being said, are you watching the series? the hit, without the injury, is typical of all hits throughout the series. Rome has a 4 game suspension but yet there is an example of a 'worse hit' in this very thread

the difference between these teams, obviously, is our guys don't twitch like dead chickens when they run into defensive players.

waltgator 06-09-2011 11:03 PM

that was a hrad hit, but that being said..im going for the bruins in 7!

Far-L 06-09-2011 11:21 PM

Lord Stanley applauds from grave as Homegrown Video fields adult hockey team
 
I know y'all are busy with Stanley Cup hockey talk but I would just like to mention Homegrown Video's own PussyCats just pulled down another win (3-1) in a penalty laden game that saw one of its players get a most unfortunate one game suspension...:winkwink:

amacontent 06-09-2011 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Spunky (Post 18206183)
The refs are paid off obviously.The big US market is more important to the NHL than a little Canadian city.NBC dictates what they want for ratings.let the Bruins hack and slash in order to win.Nothing would be more satisfying than to watch people eat their words
It ain't over till the fat lady sings

Ive lost all respect for you after that comment. Id expect something like that from Just Alex the underage wanna be hockey player. But not you.

waltgator 06-09-2011 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 18206295)
I know y'all are busy with Stanley Cup hockey talk but I would just like to mention Homegrown Video's own PussyCats just pulled down another win (3-1) in a penalty laden game that saw one of its players get a most unfortunate one game suspension...:winkwink:

jaja nice!

amacontent 06-09-2011 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by vanillaice (Post 18206186)
lol, so you admit it was a late enough hit to warrant a penalty, and assuming you have eyes, can clearly see his shoulder in Horton's head, and if you have reading comprehension, here:

48.1 Illegal Check to the Head ? A lateral or blind side hit to an opponent where the head is targeted and/or the principal point of contact is not permitted.

You admitting Horton was not looking makes this a blind side hit to the head. What's difficult for that to understand?

Dont contradict JUST hahaha ALEX hes a 10 time Stanley Cup champ. He knows everything. Hell he even video tapes his skills.

amacontent 06-09-2011 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 18206258)
that all being said, are you watching the series? the hit, without the injury, is typical of all hits throughout the series. Rome has a 4 game suspension but yet there is an example of a 'worse hit' in this very thread

the difference between these teams, obviously, is our guys don't twitch like dead chickens when they run into defensive players.

Sorry Richard the Caschmucks are the biggest divers and embeleshers in the NHL

amacontent 06-09-2011 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 18206258)
that all being said, are you watching the series? the hit, without the injury, is typical of all hits throughout the series. Rome has a 4 game suspension but yet there is an example of a 'worse hit' in this very thread

the difference between these teams, obviously, is our guys don't twitch like dead chickens when they run into defensive players.

That being said I do think the Bruins are getting away with alot of slashing penalties. I think Marchand slashed Sedin Fag # 1 like 4 times lining up for a faceoff.

Far-L 06-09-2011 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by KillerK (Post 18205931)
The hit was fine, stop trying to pussfy the game. Only problem with the hit was
that it was a bit late.

The only way I am trying to "pussify" the game was to start a team for the Seattle adult league called "The HGV Pussycats".

I play hockey and I used to play lacrosse where almost everything that is illegal in hockey is legal and with less pads. Hitting is a part of the game and at any level of the game where there are hits there are going to be concussions - that is just a fact until some sort of miracle helmet is invented.

The hit was late and it clearly targeted the head. He could of done the same job with a hip check imo and it wouldn't have drawn a penalty or a suspension. No one is saying that Horton wasn't making a huge mistake by not seeing peripherally.

amacontent 06-09-2011 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KillerK (Post 18205931)
The hit was fine, stop trying to pussfy the game. Only problem with the hit was
that it was a bit late.

Its not about pussifying the game killerk Its about protecting career ending injuries. Yes it was a late hit but shoulder also made contact to the head. Both combined I think made for the 4 game suspension. If the hit had not have been late it may have been just a rule 48 penalty. Look at the star players being knocked out of commission due to concussions...
Crosbey , Helmuis , the player from Boston whose name slips my mind now thats been out all year almost , Hell Bob Probert died due to hits to the head long term probably.

amacontent 06-09-2011 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 18206317)
The hit was late and it clearly targeted the head. He could of done the same job with a hip check imo and it wouldn't have drawn a penalty or a suspension. No one is saying that Horton wasn't making a huge mistake by not seeing peripherally.

100 PERCENT CORRECT. Knowing the intensity of this series Horton SHOULD NOT have been admiring his pass... but that doesnt mean someone has the right to rob your house if you leave the door unlocked.

_Richard_ 06-09-2011 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 18206312)
Sorry Richard the Caschmucks are the biggest divers and embeleshers in the NHL

not that i agree with that style of play.. but now that the disclaimer is out there if i was a special teams with focus on scoring penalty goals i'd be doing the 'ooowwww' thing too.

amacontent 06-10-2011 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 18206341)
not that i agree with that style of play.. but now that the disclaimer is out there if i was a special teams with focus on scoring penalty goals i'd be doing the 'ooowwww' thing too.

Well hopefully that leads to suspensions for that because its an embaraassment to the greatest game on earth.

Just Alex 06-10-2011 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by vanillaice (Post 18206182)
Actually I did play defense for my high school hockey team and various pickup leagues after that. Have you? Wait, that's irrelevant, let me ask a better question, do you have eyes? Ok, good. So you can see from this video https://youtube.com/watch?v=eXi7TM7moP4 he got rid of the puck at the edge of the B, yet Rome had time to stop, and hit him in an upward motion roughly 10 feet away, almost 2 full strides. That gif you're showing doesn't even show Horton with the puck and still shows him nearly taking 2 strides.

Look at that video, he had plenty of time to let up on the hit. Should he have hit him at all? I don't really have a problem with the timing. Like everyone is saying, it was a tad late, but we see checks being finished more-so in the playoffs, that's life. The problem was that he seen Horton wasn't looking, had time to react to it, but chose to lay into him in the upward motion aiming AT HIS HEAD.

Your gif clearly shows his shoulder laying into Horton's head. Horton is 6'2 and Rome is 6'1. It's not like Chara out there who's shoulder is at everyones head level. It's not easy to hit a guy in the head an inch taller than you in the head unless you intend to. That's the dirty part you're clearly not understanding.

Its fucking hockey... try playing it..
Plenty of time? How about you and you fat ass from LA try to lay a hit on each other and then try to change you mind half of second later...
Idiots.
I would love to lay both of out in a game. Would love it.

facialfreak 06-10-2011 01:11 AM

Tim Thomas does not have a number 5 hole .... because of his 70 lb. balls !!!!!

vanillaice 06-10-2011 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 18206258)
that all being said, are you watching the series? the hit, without the injury, is typical of all hits throughout the series. Rome has a 4 game suspension but yet there is an example of a 'worse hit' in this very thread

the difference between these teams, obviously, is our guys don't twitch like dead chickens when they run into defensive players.

Yea, it's typical of all the hits! lol Jesus every other hit is a shoulder launch to the head. That Horton is such a pussy. :thumbsup

vanillaice 06-10-2011 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18206371)
Its fucking hockey... try playing it..
Plenty of time? How about you and you fat ass from LA try to lay a hit on each other and then try to change you mind half of second later...
Idiots.
I would love to lay both of out in a game. Would love it.

I do play it. Remember you asked and I answered that?

As far as Rome, he shouldn't have been launching his shoulder into Horton's head at ALL even if he was carrying the puck and the timing was fine. It was a dirty hit.

None of my coaches have ever told me to bite people, pull hair https://youtube.com/watch?v=DGysIQ3NNTk, dive https://youtube.com/watch?v=yrULavQbt2A, or lay my shoulder into someones head.

Are you sure you're not confusing your "hockey experience" with soccer? You sure sound like one of those dirty pussy soccer players to me.

Si 06-10-2011 07:40 AM

Game 5 tonight!

_Richard_ 06-10-2011 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by vanillaice (Post 18206685)
Yea, it's typical of all the hits! lol Jesus every other hit is a shoulder launch to the head. That Horton is such a pussy. :thumbsup

so you haven't watched the series. just checking


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