Well, I know for a fact that Kristin is good at what she does. I may not have been with TB for that long, but Kristin is great to work for/with.

it is not was :)

lots of ego in this thread....

Find good, smart people and keep them happy. And of course all of your usual... good product, etc.

I think that too many employers underestimate the importance of having a team that "clicks" and ensuring that they continue to "click."

well, we are talking affiliate managers after all:winkwink:

Do people even call themselves affiliate reps or webmaster support anymore? It's become a job title like a janitor or a secretary--the job still exists we just call it something else. ;)

I haven't had any hold ups about the title myself. I still take pride in it. Dave treats all his employees, including me, extremely well and because of this we have a large staff that has many veterans who have been around for a long time.

Dave doesn't claim ownership of anyone, he has never needed to. Leadership is only obtained by people who are willing to get their hands dirty not by claiming them. If you just walk around and point fingers and lurk over shoulders all day your people wont respect you, no matter what your title is. Dave is knee deep in it with the rest of us and is respected around here because of it--Phil too.

Perhaps consider a marketing director that can manage affiliates and do promotions and internal marketing for 'typein' sales that help sustain your company. They don't come cheap but having someone with both technical and marketing skills comes in pretty handy. Be aware though, not all marketers are "sales people" so you really need to consider what you want - a front person or a someone who can build a solid foundation that doesn't just only rely on affiliates for joins, such as by building up commission free traffic sources and support affiliates as needed and do the usual PR stuff. Marketing directors do not usually take a commission but require a higher base salary. Good luck.

If this is in response to my comments I think you're looking at it in a way other than how I meant it. It's not really about ownership the way your looking at it but more about onus. Not about owning a person, it's about owning responsibility.

My team is my team, no matter where I am or who I work for, myself or someone else. I treat them the way I would want to be treated, I never throw them under the bus and I make sure their needs are met before my own. Everyone who works for me now worked for me before somewhere else, if I wasn't good at what I do or if I didn't treat them right they wouldn't have left other companies to work for me.

i enjoyed my time at Topbucks

good people to work for.

Now put my feeds back up :)

usually 1 or 2k a month plus a commission of sales

Hello Cyndalie,

Stories traffic rings a bell.... Who started that back in the day? http://nats.storiestraffic.com/exter...contact&code=9 I went to the contact page to see if a name would ring a bell but nothing showed up.

Id like an affiliate Manager Salary :)

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lol exactly. Im waiting for your email!


I always used to add the company name in front of the affiliates manager his/her name in icq. I stopped bothering as I got sick and tired of changing it.

Not many good reps in the biz left anymore imo, lots of "bla bla let me get back to you later bla bla". Im not missing the days 5 reps from the same company would hit me up with the same questions lol

Throughout my life in this industry I have always worked with 1 rep as much as possible as an affiliate. If a second or third person from the same company messaged me I'd say I was already working with "Blah" but thanks for getting in touch. I've been lucky that most companies I worked with over the years have been pretty steady. None more so than who I am employed with now, PimpRoll.

Glen is approaching 10 years here, I don't think there is someone in his position who has been at the same company as long. Nor will there be many who have brought to a company what he has to PimpRoll. Can't wait for his 10 year party!

We also have more overhead as a larger company. All the employee's insurance, bonuses, perks, hell our electricity bill can hit $10k/month sometimes. A few years ago we noticed we were still in the trend of just throwing money at things without evaluating where trimming back could be done. Little things helped, we made it mandatory to shut down computers at night, made a conscious effort to go more green, etc.

At one point we had five products and 140 employees that occupied to the max both buildings. We trimmed huge and canned all but the mobile and we are stronger since we narrowed our focus.

So if you are clearing a million each year with just a few employees, that's not bad. A bigger operation isn't always the best thing. I know TheDoc can't have employees. :)

Less air conditioning, more flip flops.
:)

Exactly why I sit around naked here at home all day working.

Pure bliss. And saves electricity!

Well said. A team that clicks is a lot more productive and supportive than one that has drama and time is spent dealing with that drama. Yet like any relationship, you have to work at it on an ongoing basis from all ends.

What does it mean - not more, or not less than 500?

They have to reach at least 500 new sales, rebills not included.

When a new rep starts with us, we give them about 200 WMs from our database so they have a base to work with.

And you shall have it soon, my man.

Got it, thank you Kristin. The day will come and I send you my resume :)

LOL, couldn't have made it a little easier for them could ya? :winkwink:

In all seriousness tho, a solid person in this industry with decent contacts can hit 500 sales a month in no time at all, it's only 17 sales a day.

you make it sound so easy:1orglaugh

That's complete bullshit. Anyone in 2011 who can generate 500 new sales a month is a superstar.

Really? From a list of 200 webmasters??? Maybe you're in the wrong business.

And yet porno bought my house and all my toys...

If those are 200 active webmasters with sites sending traffic, maybe. If they are cheap joins, maybe.

But I doubt it. I'm separating the bullshit from the business here --

Look around you at this industry. I'm not going to name names but I know people who had 5000 member sites that are happy if they do 10 sales a day today. I know people who had million dollar sites doing 100+ joins a day, who are lucky to do 25. I know people on this board with big personalities who have side jobs to pay the bills.

So if you can come up with 6000 new sales a year in 2011 you can write your own ticket.

One of my guy's commission last month was $6400, at $1/sale, you do the math.

You know you can hit me up and I'll take a screenshot to prove it to you too. :)

The last time I could claim to bring in 500 sales was 2005.

I'm not arguing with you, I'm arguing with the people who say it's easy. But hell if you are handing out $6k checks maybe I should come to Tucson and intern.

Well, we baseline things. So if you get WM X who has 20 joins, you have to get him to send 21 before you get credit for it and you only get $1/sale past that baseline.

I've noticed the database isn't as good as it sounds. Those are old WMs who are on auto pilot. You got to be able to utilize your own contacts and have the balls to just cold hit up people.

Teach me.
For the love of god teach me.
I must understand how this is and master it.

Okay phew, I don't like Jimmy arguments. :)

Seriously though, it isn't easy but it can be done. You can pretty much hit up one of the TB guys at any time and have one of us respond.

Bison Witches misses you.

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I'm not joking either. As a sales rep, the first person you need to sell is ME! I'm hiring you!

So if you spell my name wrong, how the heck are you gonna do with clients? It's just a good indicator from the start.

I'm sure you're up to your ears in bitter ex-employees looking for the last seat on the gravy train, but I'd sure as hell love to know how you guys do the magic that you do.

Anyway I'd only move back for the pie case at Congress:

http://www.jimmy3way.com/pie.jpg

once you're naked you could also run some MFC shows while you're at it... :upsidedow

If you want a private Skype session, why not just ask?

Don't forget to tell me when, I'll join as a voyeur :winkwink: