It's very funny that you say I have zero traffic in my blogs, when you have never ever seen my stats, haha. In fact I have some blogs with a lot of traffic, more traffic than any of your worthless sites. And Im talking about seo traffic, not shitty trading traffic. Oh, and adult is not my main business now. I sell mainstream stuff that people cannot get for free and it converts like mad.

The only poor loser with zero traffic here is you. That's why you try to hide your sites from most people here, you have been for years here and people hardly know any of your sites at all. Only someone who tries to hide something, don't show his sites.

And no, don't say because people can copy it.. you just have worthless blogs and tubes, there is nothing to hide, you don't have the secret nasa formula to make money.

Do you still eat bananas on camera? hahaha. :1orglaugh

then why do you have threads like this?

A lot of people dont post their sites, because they are paranoid. and thats ok.

squirtinghotbabes.com 5.6 million alexa rank
adulthugemovies.com 30 million alexa rank

wow that is some serious traffic, i have better traffic to development sites with dummy posts.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

lol... man.. you are stuck on time.. adult ticket?? hahaha.. what are you checking? threads from year 2002?

haha, and those domains are not even mine anymore, I sold them..

man, try to get up to date. Its funny that you answer to my posts almost immediately, its obvious you have a lot of free time and you are stuned and care of what I do.. If you had work to do, you would not come to this forum and waste 6 hours per day here..

Keep selling your sig to get a few bucks and pay your bills, you are a broken dude with no money in bank left. Canadian expensive life muust be killing you, heh.

Don't target people searching for free porn.

yep sure is ;)

considering i have sold my sig to the same company for the past 4 years.

I would post stats, but I dont wanna feed your ego.

I will leave it at that, the day you post your stats, i will return the favour.

Actually, tap water is usually cleaner and/or the same quality as bottled water. Marketing has made us BELIEVE that bottled water is better. Our belief that its better has made it a "fact".

People believe the story and propogate the idea that bottled water is better for us. Thus marketing is done on itself and companies make a fortune selling something they can get for free.

Porn still sells. Those that have learned to tell a good story are making a killing.

apples and oranges.....

at least people THINK bottled water is cleaner than tap water thus why they feel the need to buy it.

but whats the difference between jerking off to free porn OF ANY CATEGORY on a tube site and having to fork out your personal information, credit card number, and 10's of dollars for someones network of sites which might be limited to only a few niche's?

what are the benefits you tell me? oh you might get to watch them in HD? wooptyfuckingdoo!!!!!!!

i still watch tv in standard definition and i can see everything just fine. HD are for the connoisseur and those are the select few who do still fork out dough for porn.

simple fact is that a paid porn site doesn't offer much more if anything more than a free tube does.

advantage > free tube
it's free
no personal information
no getting ripped off and charged a million times with cross sales
don't have to worry about when to cancel memberships
unlimited amount of niches to choose from
don't have to sign in/log out
don't have to receive spam mails after signing up
don't have to worry about their emails being sold so they can get more spam
did i mention its free?
don't have to spend 15 minutes signing up and pulling out credit cards to get their jerk on
don't have to worry about the misses seeing their cc statement
on and fucking on

advantage > paid porn
HD porn (sometimes)
full length porn videos not cut off like tube sites sometimes do
able to save videos to computer in different formats
much more organized in terms of scene selection and whats the newest freshest content
photo sets (High res, video stills)
occasional live video sessions with models
occasional interactive chat sessions with models

i mean you do the math. it doesn't take a genius to see why tubes do so well and porn is in a huge recession and ratios are through the fucking roof.

tubes are anonymous they are free and they have want you want, something to jerk off to without the hassle.

not to mention a lot of these tubes are posting user generated videos. someone screen caps some chick on skype and posts it on the tube site. or some dude fucks his girlfriend and posts it on a tube site. or some guy screen caps a cam model on myfreecams.com and posts it. thats shits free, unique content, amateur, no documents required, no $$ and something a paid porn site can't provide. you guys are simply outmatched you can't compete you can only hope to hold on to a little tiny share of the traffic porn produces with old reliable customers that tube sites haven't corrupted yet.

it's fucking idiotic to think you guys have a chance to stay afloat in this business. all you have to do is type porn in google to see where this industry has gone. you think shap is fucking stupid? that guy built one of the biggest porn networks ever in this industry and he sold it without even blinking. take the money and run because this shit is done.

go look @ all the big tube sites they aren't selling porn on their ad spots. it's all fucking dating, penis pills, cams... because porn does't sell it doesn't convert at all. i don't even need to post stats you guys already know.

go sell hosting, go sell fucking dating, cams, acai berries, biz ops, debt consolidating or some shit because this just isn't working anymore.

Soon everyone will own an illegal tube and cam ratios will be 1:100,000

Perfect man, just perfect.

Its still a mistery why some people keep saying that adult is better than ever.

Any ideas? Im trying to figure out what hidden intention they have behind their fake premises.

For example when you check stupid fat guys like fris or other gay boytoys, you can see they keep saying that tubes are great and they convert like mad, and then you see them selling pre-build tubes, or tube scripts..

So you can see their intention. Too bad these assholes lie to the whole community saying that adult is better than ever, when you can see that all the forums are dead or there is no activity or sponsors close on a daily basis and don't pay.

I just can't stand how these assholes keep their lies all over the place when things are pretty obvious.

Or other idiots say: "adapt or die" and when you ask them "what do you mean with adapt or die?".. they just never answer.

Very strange.

adapt or die.

adapt or die - Translation, steal it and sell it.

Precisely.

Either that, or lick the specks off of Manwin's asshole. Lots of "adapt or die" types here doing that too :disgust
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you havent adapted ;)

thats why you convert at 0:10,000

while others convert at 1:15 - 1:100 for dating ;)

Oh I understand, since VJO is not answering my question, I assume he means this with adapting:

"Steal a complete members area RIP, upload it to filesonic dot com and post the links on all the boards like pornbb, planetsuzy, extreme-board" to get paid 30 bucks for every 1000 downloads, right?

That is adapting for user VJO and others, right? RIGHT VJO??? If you don't answer, I assume that is what you mean with adapting.. Are you not going to answer?

And for fris, he talks about DATING, what is adapting for him?

Create fake facebook profiles, or twitter profiles, buy 400 twitter accounts on blackhatforum and create each account with one hot girl photo to get followers and spam his links to the dating sponsor??? That is adapting for fris, right.. Ok.. I understand now.

Spam craiglist?

If that is adapting, no thanks.. I stay in mainstream and stay honest, and keep getting my 10% of my total earning of adult. I'm not that fucked like fris, to have to do those shitty nasty ultra-blackhat tactics to make some bucks.

Now I understand WHY NOBODY ANSWERS when you ask them: "What do you mean with adapting"...

I understand now.

You bet ?
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right, dont you think a dating program would ban me for that, i have one twitter account with 13k followers which isnt realted to adult.

why dont you ask AJ from loadedcash how I refered them over a million dollars in sales.

I dont know where you get your info from about buying blackhat shit, I have never done anything blackhat.

Blackhat is short term.

Post some proof if you are going to accuse me of doing something illegal, like this blackhat shit.

I think i would have been banned from programs for doing this.

not sure if you noticed the quotes around "clean" it was there for a purpose. meaning "perceived as"

Only 13K? hahaha.. that's nothing, fucker. I have one with 50K followers which is not adult related either, so what? I kicked your ass badly, again.

If you are going to show off, make sure you do it properly, broken poor loser.

im not showing off, im just asking you to post some proof of me doing something illegal, ill wait for a mod to come around and ask you too.

better than 0:100,000 like Lamis

;)

Heh, check my message again, asshole.

I asked what was adapting for you, and you came here assuming you did something illegal...

You got OWNED; loser.

Keep living o your mom's basement, broken adult webmaster who is too limited to find a new business, when adult went down. :1orglaugh

I'm sure you have a lot to hide.. hardly anyone in this business know any of your adult active sites.. You never ever show your sites to anyone here..

What are you hiding, Chris Mc-Gay ?

hahahahaha.

fist i live nowhere near my parents, actually lots of people know my activate adult sites as I trade with loads of people.

You dont show your sites, so why shoudl I?

Mc-Gay, that shows your level of maturism, not that it Bothers me.

What is a broken webmaster anyway?

I have never left adult, because it converts way too good, just because you convert at 0:10,000 doesnt mean others do.

yep, adapting = be a scumbag.

Sure, Fris, keep answering to the thread, I can go all day, all year until the infinite, it wont be that good for you..

guys, check this:

webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=112522

oh and check fris, eating a banana for her gay boyfriend live on camera:

http://s298.photobucket.com/albums/m...afilter=videos

hahahahahhahaha :1orglaugh

do you want to keep answering?

I promise I will be the last to answer in this thread, Chris, keep bumping it and trying to play 1 to 1, you will LOSE, sucker.

Nobody knows your sites and you are too afraid to show them, what do you hide?

yeah yeah, keep messaging the admins asking them to ban me like the little shitty gay-tard you are, whining sucker, there is NO REASON TO BAN ME, so your efforts are worthless. I know you applied that method to ban a lot of people in this forum who talked about your "hidden" tactics, ASSHOLE. Who the fuck do you think you are?

Keep answering, and I will keep posting more interesting info.

Relax, this is the first I seen you had quoted me.

I was simply asking what adapt or die means just like you. :)

In 14 years on porn chatboards noone has ever spelled it out to me. It isnt gonna start happening in June 2011. :)

Work, read, test is the only way.

There is only ONE place to find results..






..in your hard work.

Best wishes on your sites and sales. :)

you are more upset because people wont tell you how they adapt, thats why you go all ape shit.

Maybe they prefer not to tell you how they earn their income, because it means less for them.

Not eveyone likes sharing.

Im not the one swearing, calling people assholes, saying derogatory remarks about homosexuals or anything else, or doing any of that immature stuff.

I guess you cant speak without doing all that, I dont know if you are trolling or trying to have a real conversation, because frankly I can't tell.

You dont even want to speak in a normal matter.

And Of course I want to answer this thread, because I really want to know your answers.

To the fact that no one knows my sites and im "too afraid" , if you show your sites I will show mine, not that it matters.

Im not playing 1 to 1, im sure everyone would love to know why you are so against people making money and adapting, because they wont tell you how they are doing it.

Im sure you will come back with posting some more derogatory remarks, or posting other jibberish which is not related to the topic in question.

editing my reply as this was an interesting one

i see the thread as turn into shit;enjoy rolling in it

If you don't care to be specific, perhaps you and the other ass wipes who incessantly post that lame phrase should do so less often.

Ever think of that tube boy?

Now why don't you run off like a good little pillow biter and deep throat some more bananas.
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Like I said, cant post without those remarks, what is this 4th grade?

Just because you use a different nick doesnt mean the question changes.

lol come on now... we both know thats nonsense. there are plenty of dating programs that would take that shit. :1orglaugh

adapt or gay.

You mean like bumping a half dozen old threads to page 1 like you were last weekend?

Running credit reports on complete strangers you fight with on message boards?

Trolling people's sales threads?

At what point exactly does what Lamis is doing cross the line of "immature" and "trolling", considering you were doing all of those things I just mentioned a week ago. I am just curious. Personally, I would rank all of the above as both immature, and things that people who are borderline psycho would do. But maybe that's just me.

Carry on.
:pimp

I cant afford to complain about bad ratios...

HOW TO ADAPT OR DIE - By Mister Peabody

(Please note: If you're an AFFILIATE who does not produce your own content but rather promotes programs then not all these will apply to you. Some will, some won't, more on that at the end.)

1. Shoot more interesting/unique content. Sure, this costs money - BUT it costs more in imagination. True, just about everything has been done or tried when it comes to filming the sex act, but look around at what you see EVERYWHERE (or most everywhere). Now do the exact opposite. Start with that.

(But what do you MEAN Mister Peabody? Please help me understand....okay: STOP SHOOTING SEX SCENES THAT RESEMBLE CONSENSUAL RAPE. Let's start there. The nastier the better is not what will sell in the next 3-5 years. Use your imagination. if you cannot, get out of adult you're ruining it for the rest of us.)

2. Create either very interesting websites or extremely simple ones. Say WHAT??? You read that right. Here's a clue: see all those FLASHING PORN SITES you see everywhere, laden with FLASHING ADS that send you into POPUP HELL? Don't do that. It's like walking into a RedLight District with neon XXX's flashing in your face and the smell of chlorine and cum. (If you want that kind of shit it's available everywhere.) Create sites people would want to stay on for more than 30 seconds. Work on your "stickiness". be creative and differant.

OR

Create extremely simple tours. Simple navigation (4 links MAX). Get the surfer to the Join page ASAP and without them having to think about it. Literally design the site with your cock (or a dildo, if you're a lady) in your hand and the mouse in the other. What we have now are messes upon messes of ugly-ass tours.

(And YES I am guilty of some of this, too. LOL Do as I say, not as I do in some cases.)

3. Think outside the Affiliate box. If you rely on programs for your content then you will have less flexibility in some areas but more in others. Take the content, create sites that do NOT look like a generic affiliate/keyword blog or a freesite. Take the time to make the surfer think it's YOUR content. Treat it like it's content you yourself created. You are more likely to put some loving care into something if it's "yours" then if it's just some product you're hawking. Once your "not like everybody else's" sites are done they WILL be "yours" - because they're unique to you.

4. Help yourself out psychologically: "get over it" and move on. Stop beating yourself up (I know you do it), the world can do that to you all by itself without you helping it out. So many who started in adult a few years back or longer have not MENTALLY adapted. They cling to "the good ol' days" as the "bad new days" consume them. Here's a tip: everyone and everything you ever knew about the adult industry is DEAD. Today is a new day, the day after the funeral. How are you going to cope, pick up the pieces and live life again?

It's a new world, an ever-changing one, in life not just on the Internet. How you made money yesterday is not how you're making it today, and it won't be how you're making it tomorrow. Understand this, accept it, go through whatever stages of the grieving process you need to, then take a deep breath and realize it's a New Day. Can't stand the idea of "starting from scratch"? Then time to get out of Adult. You've had your fun here. Please trust me that, emotionally, you will be better off once you make a DECISION: carry on in this brave new (uncertain) online world or time to get out.

Once you go through this process of NOT lying to yourself but facing the Truth you will be able to more clearly think.

5. Focus on what makes you money, drop EVERYTHING else. Of course, if NOTHNG is making you money then it's time to find another profession. But if SOME things are still earning for you focus on that and drop everything that is holding you back. Maybe you built two dozen blogs or websites 3 years ago and are still working them while your traffic and ratios keep going down, down, down. STOP. Let it go (see #4). Just let it go. You're in the Paysite business but dating makes you more money. Go for the dating, let the Paysites die. You're promoting cams because you ALWAYS HAVE promoted cams; drop that shit if it isn't earning for you the way it used to, and promote the penis pills that are rocking for you. SWITCH.

It's hard to let go, especially when you've spent YEARS building. But you simply have to (eventually). Why not right now?

We stop ourselves out of laziness, ego, an unwillingness to learn YET AGAIN something new (a coding language, how to build a certain kind of site, etc). But you cannot let fear stop you.

In the end, there is no "Industry", despite the shows and conventions. We are ALL scattered businesses, big and small, some inter-connected and semi-dependant on each other, some totally independant. In the end, we must all do what is best for US. Manwin, CCBill, AVN, Playboy, TopBucks, Robbie, Barefootsies, Loaded Cash, Reality Kings - EVERYONE WATCHES OUT FOR THEMSELVES. It's time you did, too. Be ethical, be respectful, work hard and don't screw people - but look out always for #1.

CONCLUSION: So what does "adapt or die" MEAN, exactly? The above gives you some clues, tips and hints but eventually there is no "answer". In nature, no one tells the little bean plant how to reach for the sunlight to survive but it somehow figures out a way, every damn time. The "answer" to "Adapt or Die" will be a differant answer for every person. That's what's so maddening.

Therefore if there isn't a simple answer someone can kist give you then you must come up with it yourself. If you cannot then you have failed at adaption and you will die.

But if you do manage to figure out what works best FOR YOU then you will be like the little bean plant, still here after millions of years. Good luck!

99% of people in this forum don't know any of your sites. You never post any of your sites at all...

So, since you are 90% in adult, why nobody knows any of your sites, dude?

Only a small percentage of my money comes off adult, loser, so its obvious I don't care about the current situation, because 90% of my money is not coming from adult, and I make way more money per month, that you do in a 1 full year, FAT LAZY LOSER.

Why don't you post a few of your sites and you TWITTER ACCOUNT? HUH?

Or will you keep posting with your alter egos, BANANA EATER? hahaha.

Come on, why don't you show your sites? Why do you keep hidding your stuff?

No complaint here. Carry on.

Like clean panties?
:helpme