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VIXEN ESCORTS 06-20-2011 03:08 PM

I might get my hot girlfriend Majela Zeze Diamond to write a ditty about Atvod

DamianJ 06-20-2011 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UKVixens (Post 18228776)
Right clicking on a wmv file, downloading it then double clicking it to view would be UN tvlike ? Pedantic difference maybe but given that the thrust of this most ridiculous quango is to protect childrens morals............yet it only applies to the UK. It doesn't cover photos, live streams, tubes. Atvod is the UK's answer to the EU directive, be interesting to see how other EU countries interpret it.

If you think it is about protecting children and not generating money, well, I don't think you get it!

VIXEN ESCORTS 06-20-2011 03:34 PM

"Pedantic difference maybe but given that the thrust of this most ridiculous quango is to protect childrens morals............yet it only applies to the UK."

Their words not mine, I get it very well thanks. Maybe I should elaborate, if "tvlike videos" exist then surely there must be some "UN tvlike videos" I'd like a definition of a video that is UN tvlike. I can't really imagine what one would look like. There must be some small pedantic difference between the two. I was actually casting aspertions on their remit to protect childrens morals by highlighting the fact that it only applies to the UK and does not effect, tubes, live streams, photos, Majela Zeze Diamond or UN tvlike programs.

ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-20-2011 03:35 PM

You guys are Completely misunderstanding what it is about.
I mean completely...

Just reading this thread made my fucking head hurt.

But I will be really brief.
They want a system that is subject to regulation and fee's for on demand services Ad hoc Internet Based VOD and Cable.

There is a convergence coming and .XXX wants a piece.

Quicker translation. .XXX operators whom own there own content may become subject to fee's by the regulation authority in the UK however in return may get further on demand distribution of there content to consumers.

The concept is basic the idea is not solid. Internet/TV convergence is imminent and some people want to try and lock down distribution but that simply will not happen. The internet is more fluid than water and the largest open source beast mankind has ever known.

The convergence will happen in the next couple years and it is expected people will no longer need cable but just internet based access.

.XXX would be a channel for such on demand content.

VIXEN ESCORTS 06-20-2011 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatOtherGuy (Post 18228837)
You guys are Completely misunderstanding what it is about.
I mean completely...

Just reading this thread made my fucking head hurt.

Thanks for clearing that up !

DVTimes 06-20-2011 03:39 PM

http://www.atvod.co.uk/

VIXEN ESCORTS 06-20-2011 03:40 PM

"They want a system that is subject to regulation and fee's for on demand services."
NO SHIT

VIXEN ESCORTS 06-20-2011 03:42 PM

Question is will DVT pay £250 per site times 6 per year or roll them into one and still not be able to afford the fee.

VIXEN ESCORTS 06-20-2011 03:59 PM

".XXX operators whom own there own content"

How and who would determine that ? I own my own content exclusive, I buy content, I am an affiliate, I register a .xxx domain mix it all up. Who's going to do that ? Answer: nobody

".XXX operators may become subject to fee's by the regulation authority in the UK"

This is possible but I don't see how it's specifically related to ATVOD

"however in return may get further on demand distribution of there content to consumers."

Not sure you understand the UK, unless you mean getting hardcore on Sky, that isn't happening ever and even less chance now Atvod exist.

DamianJ 06-20-2011 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UKVixens (Post 18228835)
"Pedantic difference maybe but given that the thrust of this most ridiculous quango is to protect childrens morals............yet it only applies to the UK."

Their words not mine, I get it very well thanks. Maybe I should elaborate, if "tvlike videos" exist then surely there must be some "UN tvlike videos" I'd like a definition of a video that is UN tvlike. I can't really imagine what one would look like. There must be some small pedantic difference between the two. I was actually casting aspertions on their remit to protect childrens morals by highlighting the fact that it only applies to the UK and does not effect, tubes, live streams, photos, Majela Zeze Diamond or UN tvlike programs.

Sorry. People usually use quotes when using other people's words, hence my confusion

And yes tv like is brilliant wording

Basically they can and will go after any and all porn sites operating in the uk and generate shit loads of cash

Brilliantly clever

ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-20-2011 04:04 PM

UKVixens you do not understand what I said.
And I am not going to repeat it, its pretty plain and simple.

You might have to piece together what I said to draw from it. I am not calling you stupid you just got to think. Once you realize what I said you will understand that the convergence of Internet and TV will make both one and the same.

Bottom line is...
.XXX for distribution during and after the convergence will make no difference to distribution. ATVOD is irrelevant and so is .XXX concerning distribution via INTERNET/TV ( Both of which will be the same! ). But if .XXX can convince content owners that this Convergence will pay them money...

They need a selling point bro... .XXX is desperate for a selling a point.

DamianJ 06-20-2011 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatOtherGuy (Post 18228896)
UKVixens you do not understand what I said.
And I am not going to repeat it, its pretty plain and simple.

You might have to piece together what I said.

Do you know much about how OFCOM works?

VIXEN ESCORTS 06-20-2011 04:08 PM

I understand what you said, it's theory but in the UK it's practical nonsense.

VIXEN ESCORTS 06-20-2011 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18228894)
And yes tv like is brilliant wording

Brilliantly clever

Yes but don't you think that there's some wriggle room there, what would be "un" tvlike ?
saying tvlike video imples there must be some video that is not tvlike.

Why not just say videos, movies or any film footage....

ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-20-2011 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18228903)
Do you know much about how OFCOM works?

UK Radio and regulation is hardly the center of the universe.
Maybe you UK folks should be more concerned about your government building an Info Firewall to "Protect you". Broadcasting is regional, The Internet is boundless.

Censorship on the internet will never happen, they can try and try...
I do think the next several years will reveal governments and there pseudo/quasi organizations will begin attempts to control content and begin pushing regulation on the web.

Again though...
It is futile, but it will not stop them from attempting another "Great FireWall Of China".:1orglaugh

You can look at China and its firewall. Its a failure and a joke.

If governments can press the public to regulated channels on the internet I am pretty sure that would impress even god himself. It's just simply to much noise and these funny little groups are a wasted effort.

Making new laws regarding content is the only weak spot the internet faces but even then makes no difference. The internet is still the largest distributor of Kiddie Porn, Drugs, Fake drugs, prostitution, gambling, terrorism and the black markets. If governments have not been able to halt these activities online there is no possible future they ever will.

VIXEN ESCORTS 06-20-2011 04:29 PM

"Kiddie Porn, Drugs, Fake drugs, prostitution, gambling"

This is what I hate, prostitution and gambling are NOT illegal in the UK, so why do they get lumped in with the other shit. Here in the UK I can pay Majela Zeze Diamond for some hot sex and while she's on top place a bet with William Hill on Sky Tv

ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-20-2011 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UKVixens (Post 18228960)
"Kiddie Porn, Drugs, Fake drugs, prostitution, gambling"

This is what I hate, prostitution and gambling are NOT illegal in the UK, so why do they get lumped in with the other shit. Here in the UK I can pay Majela Zeze Diamond for some hot sex and while she's on top place a bet with William Hill on Sky Tv


Yeah but in Saudi Arabia any one of those can get you dismembered or killed.
In South America a couple of them can get you killed or imprison. You UK folks are still stuck thinking the UK still runs an empire LOL:)

VIXEN ESCORTS 06-20-2011 04:43 PM

"You UK folks are still stuck thinking the UK still runs an empire LOL"

Hmmm LOL at least we did once :) We set you free and now your self rule has resulted in "kp" "prostitution" and "gambling" being equally illegal !

ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-20-2011 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UKVixens (Post 18228990)
"You UK folks are still stuck thinking the UK still runs an empire LOL"

Hmmm LOL at least we did once :) We set you free and now your self rule has resulted in "kp" "prostitution" and "gambling" being equally illegal !


:1orglaugh SO true!

VIXEN ESCORTS 06-20-2011 04:53 PM

Live British army action in Afghanistan June 2011

https://youtube.com/watch?v=m-3dqb1izAo

VIXEN ESCORTS 06-20-2011 05:15 PM

Fascinating this atvod thing, adultwork.com I believe run by a British guy yet based in Belize ? Correct me if I'm wrong. Not affected by atvod. But some individual users are UK based and can be clearly identified, they won't be subject to Atvod as they are just "youtubers" uploading content to a site that has no editorial control ?

VIXEN ESCORTS 06-22-2011 05:19 PM

Google ATVOD and read the melon farmers site and the articles listed there. I think this is a massivley subjective area and a legal minefield. Mainstream players are pissed off at the fees and rightly so.

I'm taking a dump

"Hi I'm ATVOD"

Who ?

"We're here to show you how to wipe your ass"

But... I know how do that, been doing it for years ?

"Well we think we can wipe your ass better than you, use green toilet paper and let us know every time you take a dump"

Hmmm ok

"oh but you have to pay us $4000 a year for that info !!"


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