i totally agree and until that is done and vaccines are proven to cause diabetes, auto-immune diseases, ms, etc., i would think sticking with vaccines is the smarter way to go than not.

just like the scare with vaccines and thimiswtfeveritis, false alarm.

i will add this, i do have a pet dog and i have chosen to NOT continue with his vaccines after his 1st year and he is 4 years old now.


and i've read about the combination vaccines and it is best to administer vaccines one at a time but the roi on vaccines is proven while the damage you mention is still in the rumor mill as best i can tell.

you give both the government and the media too much credit. neither one could plan/strategize their way out of a paper bag, let alone conspire on all the things you think they do. but carry on, i do think y'all will get a conspiracy right at some point.

There are certain things that won't be "proven", this is because of what's known as "cheque-book research". You pay for research and you expect a certain result, generally one that will help you market and sell the product, whilst minimizing any downside. If the researcher does not produce the desired results you bin their research and don't use them again, if it's on a big scale you withdraw their funding. Most researchers will produce what they are asked to produce.

You make very good point at the end. For those who really believe in vaccines there are 3 things that can help protect you:-

1. NEVER receive more than 1 vaccine at a time (like dyna mo says). Unfortunately official policy is to give more than 1 vaccine at a time as it's good for business; they don't know if you'll come back in 2 weeks time.

2. NEVER get vaccinated when you have a fever

3. NEVER get vaccinated when malnourished.

If the three rules above were kept to we'd have a lot less people with auto-immune disorders and in Special schools.

For those who don't want to look any further into vaccines, it won't hurt you to take those 3 points above onboard for the future.

In media companies people generally know which direction their stories have to point in. There are some stories where it doesn't matter, there are others where you know you risk assassination (e.g. Goldman Sachs, Secret Services etc), there are other times when the goverment steps like (like with the BBC) and tells them the precise rules and story they have to follow.

It is also known that various journalists have links with the secret services, they will produce certain types of stories (propaganda) when they are asked to. E.g the West is soon going to attack a certain country, so they write stories about how women are treated like dirt in that country.

Then there is advertising, if a particular Newspaper or Channel has receives money from the Pharms (they pay very well), they're not going to say anything bad about their products. The Pharms also donate very heavily to the main parties, so their rules will always be put in place e.g. you have to receive 20 or so vaccines just to go to school

hmm, your premise is based on the assumption that the entire scientific research community is corrupt & in on it.
so we are at the government + the media + the scientific research industry + + + = vaccine/flouride/9/11/vapor trails/etc. programs


on the other hand.......

It's more about funding:-

He who controls the money supply of a nation controls the nation. - James A. Garfield

Whoever controls the Federal Reserve controls America.

For example, let's say you wanted to get women out to work in a particular nation. You want to do this to eventually get close to twice the workforce, which also enables you to tax twice as many people and has the effect of bringing down the average salary. What's a good way to go about this without telling women you want them working for you too. You fund women's liberation, tell them they've been held down by men. By giving huge funding to these people you eventually make it into a very powerful movement.

Here's a former buddy of Nick Rockefeller (the family behind the Federal Reserve) repeating what he was told by Nick about Women's Lib

We didn't. Tons of people died as a result of there being no vaccine available. :2 cents:

The ones who die are generally the malnourished

Here's a vaccine researcher telling his story, after what he's seen he would move State rather than have his own child vaccinated

"No, I can't. If I had a child now, the last thing I would allow is vaccination. I would move out of the state if I had to. I would change the family name. I would disappear. "

http://www.thinktwice.com/fraud2.htm

Complete ignorance.

I'm going to assume that you're talking about those who didn't know this above and that this is a well-known fact to you, if not then your comment is ironic...Let's look at Measles as an example. It is those who are deficient in Vitamin A who are most likely to have problems.

http://childhealthcare.co.za/childho...-malnutrition/
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What is the relationship between measles and malnutrition?

There is a close and important relationship between measles and malnutrition (i.e. undernutrition).

Measles is far more severe in children who are malnourished, especially if they are also vitamin A deficient. In addition, complications are more common and more serious in malnourished children.

Measles, especially with complications such as diarrhoea, often results in failure to thrive. Measles may lead to kwashiorkor or marasmus in children who are underweight at the time that they get measles. Therefore, measles may result in, or aggravate, malnutrition.

Measles is more severe in malnourished children and may make the existing malnutrition worse.
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Chemtrails

3..2..1..go!

haha...these guys will need a break for now...oh go on then, even if you just watch it for the great music in the first 10 minutes

and yet cloud seeding happens all the time..

Here's a fact for you, those diseases killed people before they got cancer. Does your youtube research cover this? It seems kind of relevant...

Only if malnourished, but vaccines all take down the malnourished

i gotta respect wehateporn, he does have his bases covered and also doesn't resort to name calling and the typical conspiracy theorist's debating style of dodge & deflect.

nice work.

:thumbsup appreciated dyna mo

and this statement proves what?

Do your research. Many vaccines prove to not be very effective. So kids get stuck with a needle full of viral garbage and preservatives yet end up with the sickness anyway. Plus some kids die from vaccines. Lots of kids get really sick within a few days of getting vaccinated. Our daughter had to be hospitalized after she got one shot and became very sick with a dangerously high fever. And of course a nice bonus is when the vaccines are tainted with other diseases. It happens. Again, do your research. I had done my research but after so many doctors (whores of the pharmaceutical companies) lobbied to get us to vaccinate our daughter we relented and thought we would at least get a whooping cough vaccine.

If you are one of the enlightened individuals walking this earth then you would make sure your kids eat only organic non gmo foods with many of them being raw, purify your indoor air and drinking water, stay away from vaccines, and make sure you kids play with other kids who have parents who are not typical brain dead tv addicted turds. Doing this will show your kids that your truly love them enough to protect them.

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My general stance on topics like this are that I don't know enough to have a valid opinion. Until I spend a year researching every bit of data I can find, I clearly won't know what I'm talking about.

But...

My gut feeling is that there is something valid about the current vaccination schedule being dangerous. My son became very sick after his first set of vaccines at 4 months old, and it was terrifying for me to see him that way. His doctor decided to wait until he was over a year old to give him any further vaccines, and then she spread them out as far apart as she could before he would need them to be enrolled in preschool.

If you've got a shitty doctor or shitty health coverage, which is often the case in low income areas, you probably wouldn't even be given the option as I was to dramatically slow down the government suggested vaccination schedule.

vaccinations are better then nothing for sure

however i will agree that sometimes they test shit on people..usually unfortunate third world countries..people with no voice etc

lets hope the drug companies and governments dont decide to test here, and keep the good stuff coming here only..lol

i get/got what was necessary for college 6 years ago but i dont run out and get a flu vaccine or anything "new" when it comes out. I cant even remember the last time I had a shot or vaccine and I plan on keeping that way as long as possible.

They are annoying the way they leave their jobs in the Pharm one day, take a job on a board the next day and start putting rules into place about having to receive vaccines to go to school, once that's done they quit their job and go back to their old Pharm job

The third world certainly does get the worst of it, they don't have governments and media who will protect them, so people aren't scared of treating them like farm yard animals

The recent Swine Flu and Cervical Cancer vaccines are the first time that covert fertility reduction has been attempted in the West.

This is a good point you raise, in Japan they stopped all vaccines for under 2's, as a result of this Cot Death completely disappeared. Japan had the best childhood mortality rate in the world. This obviously posed a big problem, something had to be done or else it would be obvious that vaccines are causing more harm that good. Intense pressure was placed on Japan to start vaccinating at a younger age (Opium War Style) so they moved the minimum age down to 1. Cot Death returned, Japan dropped in the childhood mortality rankings.

This is of course the reason why the USA doesn't have a good childhood mortality rate compared to the other wealthy countries, as soon as they started giving vaccines to newborns that was it, there was a huge drop. No one else gets as many as in the US, it's got out of control!

It sounds like you've read a lot on the topic. My sister was in a similar situation to you, the doctors managed to push her into the HiB vaccine for her son. She knew not to go near Whooping Cough vaccine as it almost killed her husband, she knew to avoid lots of the others. Eventually, she agreed her son could receive the Hib and Polio vaccines. Unfortunately the Hib gave him type 1 diabetes. I wish I had been able to speak to her beforehand and warn her. The Hib vaccine is worse than pointless. It leaves more children serverly disabled than the amount of lives it's meant to save. As soon as Hib was brought into the UK and USA vaccine schedules there was a sharp rise in Diabetes Type 1 in both countries. Despite all the evidence, it's still there. The only conclusion I can draw from that is that Type 1 diabetics make the Pharms a lot of money, they are lifelong customers.

The statement itself doesn't prove a thing, I'm using it to point you in a direction where you'll find an incredible amount of evidence that vaccines are the main cause of Diabetes Type 1

The Hep B vaccine is the worst offender and Hib is second

As someone who has put a lot of time, energy and research into this... I strongly recommend that you vaccinate your children. Please.

Not just for your children but for those babies, children and others that have yet or are unable to vaccinate that you put at risk.

Stuart and I have had our differences and I certainly don't know the details of his siutation. From what I do know, I trust completely that he has infact done the research he says. This might be the most informed oppinion in the whole post. :2 cents:

I appreciate what you say, the main point I will make is that it's best to also research outside of what the Pharms and Health Organisations (with the Pharm people sitting on them CDC, WHO etc), as otherwise it would be like asking McDonalds if their food is healthy.

so much for measles happening to only the malnourished huh?

http://news.health.com/2010/03/22/me...cinated-child/

found this from cnn today, no idea why an old article was found on the main health page, but doesn't make it less true...

Measles can be caught by anyone who doesn't already have immunity to it. It is the malnourished who are damaged by it.

Measles is good for you if you're not malnourished, after measles we go on a growth spurt, we are left immune to various tumours, our immune system has learned how to kick ass. It's also been observed that artistic ability takes a giant stride forward.

Saying we should vaccinate against measles is like saying we should vaccinate caterpillars to stop them from going into cocoons. To the uninformed it will look like a caterpillar is dying in the cocoon, lying there motionless, but if we vaccinated them against going into cocoons we'd wipe them out.