I love that quote! And your statements are accurate. It's a shame to see people who find fault with a man who stood up to someone encroaching on his property. It's that type of attitude that allows our government to take advantage of people every single day without even a slight risk of consequence.

The quote I remember is "I'd rather die on my feet, than live my life on my knees". Also, they aren't saying shit about me not being a man for standing my ground. they are saying that the thread was a lie. But I know it's hard for some people to wrap their head around it. I have rights too, and I said nothing wrong. He knew what it meant, I knew what it meant. Still I SAID nothing wrong.

It's funny that you morons actually thinking you're standing up for something. Standing up for what? The right to not have the police answer 911 calls at your house? That's not standing up for anything, that's being an idiot.

You're lucky your dog didn't get shot. It could have easily happened because you wanted to stand up for nothing at all. You're the exact kind of idiots that get shot by the police and then everyone says "Oh why did this have to happen to him??". The answer to that questions is always the same. Because he was a fucking idiot who didn't know any better.

We don't know that a 911 call was actually placed or the police officer could of had the wrong address. The OP says no one made the call, so we can't assume otherwise. Giving the benefit of the doubt to the police officer is wrong, and it's exactly what you're doing.

The dog wouldn't of been shot because he wanted to stand up for nothing at all, as you claim. The dog could of been shot because a police officer, who had no right to be on the property, would of shot and killed a dog.

You're one of those guys who actually believes someone is resisting because the cops who are beating a man to death yell "stop resisting" while they are committing murder, huh?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Don't we actually want police officers to respond to 911 calls?

good thing noone got hurt

How did they get your mobile home up the stairs?

Oh my fucking god who cares if its made up or not

You know when I read threads like these, I always wonder what the OP looks like. By reading the posts, one can imagine a full patch Hells Angel, tatted and roided up, don't give a fuck.

I bet reality doesn't paint the same picture.

Oh my fucking god! Who cares if it's made up or not! Why even feel the fucking need to present theories of why and how it could be made up. Just who gives a fuck!? My god is this an adult webmaster board or a kindergarten class? More biz and less bitching & whining at each other people. Get back to work!

I don't even know why I posted this reply. Im going back to the business threads.

Apparently you do. You posted twice in this thread.

The great thing about message boards is you can read only the threads you want.

I'm just here for the thread backfire.

Instead of hive fives it was all laughs.

@StinkyPink,
You acted like a real man, you shouldn`t feel bad for what you did.
Congrats

Seriously why not just call your dog and avoid the whole deal? Controlling your dog is part of the package of having one. Doesn't matter if you live in the most remote location, you should control your animal when you can see that there is no problem.

I remember those days, we grew up on the same streets and blasted music off the same porch "his moms house" this is a small story, not hard to believe at all..... I'm sure we could tell you guys some things that happened in our pasts and no one in here would believe it.

you should ask him how we met, that's a much better one.....lol

Auburndale cop shot, injured while responding to 911 'hang up' call

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/os-aubur...,1077403.story

You're gfy nick suits you perfectly, that is nonsense. The assumption is that a 911 call was placed at the thread starter's house or in the vicinity, not vice versa. The officer is merely acting on the information he's been given and its his duty to fully investigate the matter while proceeding with caution. All of this, "stand up for yourself", "be a man" and "fuck the police" bravado is what gets people killed and put in prison.

Contrary to popular belief the police don't just drive around looking for ways to fuck with people because they have nothing better to do. If the dispatch told this cop that there was a hang up 911 call at this house he only has that information to go on so he is investigating it. When he walks up to the house he assumes he is doing so in good faith for his investigation.

You could argue that he could have handled the dog situation better, but we weren't there so we don't know exactly how it went down. He has no idea if the dogs are going to attack him and when he calls out for the owner to control the dogs and they don't it gives him an immediate reason to suspect something is going on.

Nobody is giving up their rights or not being a man here. I bet if there were a story about a hang up 911 call and the police didn't investigate it and some woman was raped and killed because they didn't investigate it you would be ripping the police for not doing their job.

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Obviously we have different views of what the assumption here should be. Mine is, if the OP says no call was made, then no call was made and the officer had no right to step foot on that man's property or ask him to control his dogs. It surely would not be the first time a police officer, swat team, or law enforcement raid happened upon the wrong house.

I never stated he should "be a man" and I never said "fuck the police." I agreed with a quote and statements suggesting people should not be trampled over by law enforcement, strictly because they are law enforcement.

I also never became so petty as to insult someone because I disagreed with their opinion.

My argument isn't that this officer had nothing better to do and was just fucking with the OP for the sake of fucking with him. I'm simply stating that the OP said no call was made, and there is no reason to believe otherwise. Mistakes happen, as I just posted, this would not be the first time that law enforcement got the wrong house, or dispatch gave the wrong address, or the numerous variables that could of led to this incident. If you believe this was handled correctly, then I will agree to disagree with you.

I never stated that the OP or anyone else was "not being a man here." If there was a story about a hang up call and police didn't investigate, you're absolutely right, I would be ripping the police again. I truly believe that when you stop complaining, when you stop asking questions, you make society worse. There should always be inquiries and balance, in my opinion.

What does where I live have to do with that? I have this opinion because I know a lot of cops and am very good friends with some of them. Are there shitty cops who should not be on the job? Sure. Here's the thing though. They aren't going to just randomly stop at a house and walk up to it making up a story about a 911 hang up call that never happened because they are bored and looking to fuck with people.

Do you really think this cop was driving down the street and said to himself, "I'm going to stop at this house, walk up to it and tell them that there was a 911 hang up call just to see how they react and maybe I can get to shoot a dog or arrest someone."?

The only time I have heard of cops going out of their way to fuck with people they don't know is when it is late, nothing is going on and they see you driving around (especially if you are in a shitty looking car) and you give them a cheap reason to pull you over like having a tail light out or a license plate light out. They aren't interested in writing you for the light, they want to see if you are suspended or have no insurance. Is that right? I guess you could argue it both ways, but it is a lot different then just randomly selecting a house and accusing them of calling and hanging up on 911.

You said, "The dog wouldn't of been shot because he wanted to stand up for nothing at all, as you claim. The dog could of been shot because a police officer, who had no right to be on the property, would of shot and killed a dog.

You're one of those guys who actually believes someone is resisting because the cops who are beating a man to death yell "stop resisting" while they are committing murder, huh?"


But now you are kind of contradicting yourself by saying that you would want them to investigate. Assume that the OP is 100% correct and there was no 911 call made from his house. This means that dispatch likely screwed up or there was some kind of communication error that leads to the cop showing up at the OP's house to investigate. The OP tells the officer there was no call made. Guess what? Criminals lie. Cops get lied to all day every day and most of them assume they are being lied to all the time. So he has no way of knowing for sure that there was no call made and he isn't going to leave until he feels comfortable that everything is okay.

Maybe if he could ask a couple of questions and have a short conversation with the OP all would be cleared up and everything is good. But he wasn't getting that chance because he felt threatened by the dogs and then was threatened by the OP. Had the OP simply restrained the dogs and talked to cop this likely would have been over in a few minutes and everyone would be happy. You said the cop had no right to be there. The reality is that the cop had every right to be there if he felt he was acting on good faith and with good information. Again, if there were a woman inside being tortured and raped and the cop showed up and someone outside told him there was no call made from this house, you wouldn't just want the cop to agree with him, turn around a leave would you? You might want him to stick around and make sure that things were cool.

This is the problem here, I suppose. If we're assuming the cop is there in good faith, and honestly believes there was a 911 call from the house in question, and the OP believes there was never a call made and the cop is not there in good faith, it's a potentially explosive incident. I guess no one (cop or OP) is right or wrong in this situation until the mistake made is investigated.

I admit, I almost never assume a law enforcement official is acting on good faith and almost always assume they are abusing and going beyond the powers they are given. I've seen countless examples of this behavior. Of course, there are countless examples of exceptional behavior that don't make the headlines.

So, we're all arguing on assumptions, and even the OP and the cop don't know who made the call for sure.

I think the point you make is a great one that is likely the root of many problems that people have with the police. Both parties assume they are right, neither knows for sure and it can lead to an explosive situation.

Here is an example with me. About 9 months ago my brother rented a car for the weekend to take his family on a short vacation. When he got home I picked him up at the rental place and drove him home. The tags on my car expired that month. I had the new tags, but hadn't put them on yet because I assumed you had until the end of the month. As it turns out they expire on a specific day during the month. So I get pulled over for expired tags. I tell the officer I have the new tags in the glove box, but haven't put them on yet. He then explains about having a specific expiration date. I didn't know that so I learned something. As my brother dug through the glove box looking for the new tags the officer says to me, "Where you guys heading?" He was likely making conversation, but it struck me wrong. Part of me wanted to say, "What fucking business is it of your's where I'm headed?" Instead I said, "Taking my brother home." My brother handed me the new tags, I showed them to the officer and he had us get out and put them on right there. Everyone went their own way no harm done.

However, had I said what was thinking he might have suspected something of me. He may have written me a ticket which was well within his right to do and the whole thing could have gotten explosive. So I can see how someone who doesn't trust the cops can easily find themselves in a situation where have some serious trouble with the cops and if the cops know you don't like them it makes it just that much worse.

This is exactly what went down AFTER the dog situation. The offier spoke to my girlfriend while I packed down the dirt on the wall. He looked a bit pissed at me, but he didn't say too much.

Anyway... 3 pages and 1,200 views later and my thread was just to share how my day went. :1orglaugh

Even if we take your assumption, the error is with the 911 dispatch and not the officer. Again, he's merely acting on the information he's been given and has a duty to investigate the situation. I love how you equate an officer simply asking someone to control their dogs with "being trampled over".

accidental double post

very slow internet

Seems stupid is required to be a police officer
 

One night, several years ago, I stopped by the grocery store, on the way home from work. Going to grab some food for the weekend. As I get out of the car, 2 police cars roll up. One has several of the store employees in it. From what I hear, they have been out chasing some guy, who tried to use a stolen credit card. Another employee comes out and said he was just in again. Tried again to use the credit card , ran out and was last seen behind the store. More conversation I realize he's tall, Black and has a beard. I'm walking slowly to the store to hear what's going on.
I'm short, white and do have a beard.
Suddenly, the younger of the 2 police officers thinks I'm the suspect and reaching for gun tells me to "Come Here." The older police officer, realizes the situation, tells him to halt, "that's not him." Store employees know me, yell "that's not the guy." Almost spent the night in jail because some idiot was given a badge & gun. Almost wish I did. With a good lawyer, I'd be rich. And not living in that city.