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Babaganoosh 09-03-2011 04:08 PM

50 antisocial webmasters.

u-Bob 09-03-2011 07:07 PM

Oh God, let's hope it never does.

Paul Markham 09-04-2011 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-null (Post 18399333)
this is very FAIL

the more "social" porn consumers become the biggest pirates :2 cents:

Porn consumers love to know we're real. Go to a show for offline porn on the days they open to the general public for proof. Look at FB, Twitter and Youtube for further proof. Social networks already exist and putting one up purely for porn, industry and consumers, will increase the interest. Making the people who produce the porn real might reduce the piracy. Can't do anything to increase it.

Don't change GFY, it's already a sort of social site.

Make a site like FB and keep it for porn people only. Advertising will clearly pay for it.

I do love the way you guys adapt. :1orglaugh

Once one does it and shows it's a success 50 others will produce clones. :Oh crap

Paul Markham 09-04-2011 03:52 AM

I've been thinking more about this and the situation we're in today.

Anyone who wants free porn can get it anywhere, in fact finding free porn is easier than finding paid porn.

Piracy and Tubes exist, they're not going anywhere.

I expect to most surfers porn is just a quick 20 minute jerk off and with no apparent worth above that.

Porn is stuck in a rut of doing the same thing it's been doing for the last decade or longer.

The "personality" in online porn is low to 0. Yet porn consumers love to meet, see and communicate with models. Try to get listed a friend with Sylvia Saint, Jana Cova or many others on FB. Look at their following on Twitter. Porn consumers who want more than a quick 20 minute jerk off might be more interested in than some think.

Fact is you've all been saying porn members fall in love with porn models for years, well this is the best way to get them to fall in love some more.

for the OP it's a win win situation, getting surfers to like the girl with some real communication is a great way to promote Webcam girls. Same goes for solo girl site and even multi girl sites.

Downsides are obvious, for affiliates it might be a problem. The surfers on a Social Porn Board don't want to talk to them, they want to chat to shooters and models. It might prove more interesting than throwing up free porn everywhere and take traffic that wants more from them.

It will need people with more interesting lives than keyboard punchers to keep surfers interested. It might need a few ghost writers as some models aren't the most interesting or communicative of people.

Keeping out the idiots on both sides of the business. Stopping people flaming a competitor, we all know how easy it is to create a fake email and post as a surfer to trash another person or his site.

Or we just keep doing what we are doing and wait to copy someone who can think outside the box. Like the first guys who copied Tubes and now rule.

CurrentlySober 09-04-2011 04:52 AM

Because... Perhaps...
NO ONE REALLY GIVES A FLYING FUCK???

cherrylula 09-04-2011 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SZNY (Post 18398088)
With all the social sites around I'm wondering why GFY is not switching to a social script.

Now with FB and the FB/Adult industry group around in time GFY will lose its holy ground.

Maybe its time to rethink strategy?

They should start a separate url, or sub url, and do this. Separate from the board. They should have done this like three years ago. lol :warning

GFY is a BRAND, more than just this stupid single forum where all us losers like to bicker. lol

Don't change this forum, the boards... no changes! But add new. I'd gladly use a social network format on gfy. Fuck the haters! As usual. :)

Don't like it, don't use it. FACT IS people will be sharing threads in the social network format all day long, in smaller social circles than we have here at the zoo. GFY needs this! Like yesterday. Or she gonna die. :(

I send bill with paypal for free consulting. THANKS Cherrylula! (social networking mastermind) :D

cherrylula 09-04-2011 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18402369)
Don't change GFY, it's already a sort of social site.

Never change what works. ADD to it.

Adding this to GFY would be awesome. Changing it to that not so good.

Leave the forums for those who live on them all day. Add the social network for the more biz minded to friend each other and share threads that are important.

+1 for the GFY social network. :thumbsup

cherrylula 09-04-2011 06:02 AM

And yes, those who are trolls wanting to stay "anon" with no biz can stay right here... the best part of social networking! It weeds out a lot of scammers and irrelevant people. LOL

BRING IT

MaDalton 09-04-2011 06:04 AM

GFY already has social features and no one is using them

SZNY 09-04-2011 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherrylula (Post 18402561)
Never change what works. ADD to it.

Adding this to GFY would be awesome. Changing it to that not so good.

Leave the forums for those who live on them all day. Add the social network for the more biz minded to friend each other and share threads that are important.

+1 for the GFY social network. :thumbsup

I also see added value for social features offered as add-on for GFY. Maybe the current social feature within GFY are not used because they are too hidden.

A social GFY including current forum board will offer much more for all community members.

At this moment for the last 2 days I'm busy with fckbk.com which is a social script and if the GFY forum has an API your can interface/integrate both.

If not its always possible make a custom API and skin, so the look/feel will be in GFY brand.

mineistaken 09-04-2011 06:34 AM

Because its more convenient this way - its easier to communicate on forum format than on shitbook or any other social site.

Paul Markham 09-04-2011 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherrylula (Post 18402565)
And yes, those who are trolls wanting to stay "anon" with no biz can stay right here... the best part of social networking! It weeds out a lot of scammers and irrelevant people. LOL

BRING IT

You only have to look at some nicks replies to see why they don't like it. For them to write something of interest would be impossible.

porno jew points out the problem for many.

"a forum is social and based upon user generated content."

Link pulled, Adapt or Die, I like poo,etc. Isn't going to cut it.

d-null 09-04-2011 10:18 AM

http://i54.tinypic.com/70gaa9.png

CDSmith 09-04-2011 10:43 AM

<---- click my nick


and friend me. :D

NetHorse 09-04-2011 11:01 AM

Because this is a BUSINESS discussion forum. If you want a more social solution then use linked-in with the people you actually do business with.

FlowerKid 09-04-2011 01:19 PM

Facebook is for pussies, fuck the fucking facebook.

CaptainHowdy 09-04-2011 01:21 PM

Neg repped ...

Scott McD 09-04-2011 01:30 PM

GFY Facebook Edition:

New thread.
"Going to have cereal for breakfast"

3 people like this.


Fatfoo:
"Good luck"

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 09-04-2011 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-null (Post 18402869)

http://www.frederikhermann.com/uploa...zuckerberg.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlowerKid (Post 18403109)

Facebook is for pussies, fuck the fucking facebook.

http://www.memecenter.com/uploaded/b...94c1a6e552.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 18402907)
<---- click my nick


and friend me. :D

No sweat bro, I repped you! :thumbsup

ADG

Double trouble 09-04-2011 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 18403127)
GFY Facebook Edition:

New thread.
"Going to have cereal for breakfast"

3 people like this.


Fatfoo:
"Good luck"

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Paul Markham 09-04-2011 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 18403127)
GFY Facebook Edition:

New thread.
"Going to have cereal for breakfast"

3 people like this.


Fatfoo:
"Good luck"

Yes, porn buyers would love to know this of porn models.

It would be really good if after that she posts, then off to a day of lovely sex with some hunky guys. I'm working for my website www.somepornmodel.com

Sadly you guys lack vision. An old retired guy can see it would work.

Scott McD 09-04-2011 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18403200)
Yes, porn buyers would love to know this of porn models.

It would be really good if after that she posts, then off to a day of lovely sex with some hunky guys. I'm working for my website www.somepornmodel.com

Sadly you guys lack vision. An old retired guy can see it would work.

I wasn't talking about models though. Just typical GFY'ers...

Lisa_trafficshop 09-05-2011 11:40 AM

"An old retired guy" definitely knows what he says and gives away good ideas! By migrating to a social type GFY may loose dedicated fans and a crowd of webmasters will become homeless :(

AdultKing 09-05-2011 11:45 AM

If you want a social network, start your own, it's not that hard with Social Engine. GFY is fine as is.

Iron Mike 09-05-2011 01:43 PM

Social sites are so 2011. 4 month and its a thing of the past.

Roald 09-05-2011 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18403200)
Yes, porn buyers would love to know this of porn models.

It would be really good if after that she posts, then off to a day of lovely sex with some hunky guys. I'm working for my website www.somepornmodel.com

Sadly you guys lack vision. An old retired guy can see it would work.

they are doing this already, its called twitter and some work it pretty well :2 cents:

Paul Markham 09-05-2011 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 18403214)
I wasn't talking about models though. Just typical GFY'ers...

Yes I would expect 80% or more here would have nothing worth saying. They rarely have anything worth saying here, yet tend to be those who post the most.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 18405024)
they are doing this already, its called twitter and some work it pretty well :2 cents:

Not dedicated to adult.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lisa_trafficshop
"An old retired guy" definitely knows what he says and gives away good ideas! By migrating to a social type GFY may loose dedicated fans and a crowd of webmasters will become homeless

It's about surfers and customers, not trolls and traffic pushers.

It would need some work, nothing good comes easily.

Leave GFY as it is, no need to adapt, change or even add something on. It needs to be separate and concentrate on bringing in people interested in knowing what porn people do, even have for breakfast. And if you don't think people are interested in that, you're in the wrong business.

CyberHustler 09-05-2011 02:18 PM

Properly run niche forums have been around longer than and will outlast every social network phase. Forums are the past, present and future. :2 cents:

BlackCrayon 09-05-2011 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18403200)
Yes, porn buyers would love to know this of porn models.

It would be really good if after that she posts, then off to a day of lovely sex with some hunky guys. I'm working for my website www.somepornmodel.com

Sadly you guys lack vision. An old retired guy can see it would work.

sure but we aren't talking about something for surfers, this is gfy, its for people "in the industry".

porno jew 09-05-2011 04:33 PM

if forums are dead they why are they being bought up for huge $ on the mainstream side?

forums are by their nature "social." just because they don't have a like button does not mean they are not social.

porno jew 09-05-2011 04:34 PM

god just shut it already.

you talk to fake nics and bots on other forums, you opinion means nothing in this matter. :2 cents:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18405053)
Yes I would expect 80% or more here would have nothing worth saying. They rarely have anything worth saying here, yet tend to be those who post the most.



Not dedicated to adult.



It's about surfers and customers, not trolls and traffic pushers.

It would need some work, nothing good comes easily.

Leave GFY as it is, no need to adapt, change or even add something on. It needs to be separate and concentrate on bringing in people interested in knowing what porn people do, even have for breakfast. And if you don't think people are interested in that, you're in the wrong business.


Paul Markham 09-05-2011 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 18405319)
sure but we aren't talking about something for surfers, this is gfy, its for people "in the industry".

Scared of talking to customers. OK understood. :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18405334)
god just shut it already.

you talk to fake nics and bots on other forums, you opinion means nothing in this matter. :2 cents:

At least I have an opinion, you have ....................

The sad thing about this part of the porn industry is the lack of innovation, adaptation and real enterprise.

Quite clearly things are not going well, after years of denying the obvious the obvious is clear. We feed 1,000s of people with free porn for 1 to buy. The free porn method of selling and product isn't good enough. Yes many fool themselves that they have 1,000s looking at free porn so must be top dogs if they sell to 1. Truth is they're fools taking the easiest way of selling ever known.

Online marketing is a joke. Yes I'm far too old and stupid to understand how giving it to 1,000s for free for 1 to buy is a great way of selling. To me the idea of satisfying 1,000s so 1 buys mean losing 1,000s of customers. But as I said I'm old and to stupid to see how great a system it is.

So to the thread, the OP comes up with an idea that might work. It's never been done before as a stand alone project. A purely Adult Social Network for industry workers, not trolls pushing traffic, to people interested in talking to them.

Not a a Forum like GFY, for idiots to troll, not a forum like Freeones for only those who are approved and using Freeones link to chat. An open Forum for any model, producer or shooter to chat about what they do with people interested enough to listen.

I can see the obvious downside for some traffic directors. They have limited communication skills, nothing of interest to say and obviously this might hurt them by leaving even less buyers than they already have looking at their free porn. For the haters it's an obvious threat.

Like every new idea that comes along they hate the idea of changing.

SZNY 09-06-2011 01:47 AM

Here at GFY most of the peeps really don't like a social idea. However you see that the FB Adult industry group starts to become more and more active. In other words most of the 18+ companies are there represented.

Paul Markham 09-06-2011 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SZNY (Post 18405982)
Here at GFY most of the peeps really don't like a social idea. However you see that the FB Adult industry group starts to become more and more active. In other words most of the 18+ companies are there represented.

Yes very true. Trying getting listed as a a friend of some of the major girls and see how many friends she has. It's obviously something that will work, those flaming it are showing a clear lack of their ability to monetise it and fear it might catch on.

I see many of the girls I used to shoot and many industry people using FB all the time to promote themselves.

The obvious problem for affiliates is they don't use affiliates to do it.

Go for it yourself.

BlackCrayon 09-06-2011 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18405860)
Scared of talking to customers. OK understood. :(



At least I have an opinion, you have ....................

Are you going to talk how you make money from customers with them around? Is that not the point of gfy? You are talking about something completely different.

DamianJ 09-06-2011 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18403200)
Yes, porn buyers would love to know this of porn models.

It would be really good if after that she posts, then off to a day of lovely sex with some hunky guys. I'm working for my website www.somepornmodel.com

Sadly you guys lack vision. An old retired guy can see it would work.

I'm not really sure what you are suggesting that isn't already happening on Twitter?

Paul Markham 09-06-2011 07:00 AM

I just got a FB message from my mate Gordon Rondelle, he's one of the old school shooters.

And tried to add a few friends like Charmaine Sinclair. She has too many friends. Like so many girls. When ex models has a full list, it's a great sign. :thumbsup

Quote:

Are you going to talk how you make money from customers with them around? Is that not the point of gfy? You are talking about something completely different.
Stop showing this is totally over your head. It embarrasses you.

Quote:

I'm not really sure what you are suggesting that isn't already happening on Twitter?
No Twitter is different. More like the FB model and dedicated to adult, without the restrictions of FB. So a more bit spammy, yet kept within limits.

People who want to jerk off to free porn will be disappointed and can fuck off. People with real interest can read and post, they're a better target market.

FB and Twitter work on a limited way, Twitter not linking and both having restrictions on porn.

When real customers find out, they will want to know more, come and follow the Forum. These are the people most likely to buy.

You could work as a ghost writer for girls or shooters. Keep it about the great time you're having doing porn. :winkwink:


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