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helterskelter808 09-12-2011 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CodeR70 (Post 18420422)
But it saddens me that some think only attacks in the US count. Ever heard of London, Madrid and Bali? Israel maybe? Or Iraq and Afghanistan? Terrorist attacks are still plotted and executed every day in this world.

Does it sadden you that, like many other people, you only think terrorism by Muslims counts? I'm guessing you didn't mean ETA in Madrid and the IRA, who bombed London and other British cities multiple times, with arms and money from the USA, before the USA became the world's foremost self-righteous, self-indulgent bore on terrorism a decade ago.

CodeR70 09-12-2011 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 18422019)
Does it sadden you that, like many other people, you only think terrorism by Muslims counts? I'm guessing you didn't mean ETA in Madrid and the IRA, who bombed London and other British cities multiple times, with arms and money from the USA, before the USA became the world's foremost self-righteous, self-indulgent bore on terrorism a decade ago.

We were talking about "after 9/11" right? But we can go even further, some actually think that the US (and allies) in Iraq or Afghanistan (or whatever) are considered to be terrorists? Anyway you wanna go with that is fine by me dude. Fact remains, the US does not have a monopoly on this. 9/11 was no the last terrorist attack as it was mentioned by the OP I was reacting on.

JamesGw 09-12-2011 01:29 PM

You guys are out of control

wehateporn 09-12-2011 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18421582)
Your missing my point here. Why the fuck would the fire chief be involved in demolishing the building at all?

One would have to involve the Fire Chief if they had a desire to save his fire fighters, unless you have another way of convincing him to get his men out of the building.

His involvement would be along the lines of him being told "We know that's coming down, get your men out!"

EDIT: There were no firefighters in the building, they were told to stay away for safety reasons

* "No manual firefighting actions were taken by FDNY." [Fema Report]

* "There was no firefighting in WTC 7." [Popular Mechanics]

* "By 11:30 a.m., the fire commander in charge of that area, Assistant Chief Frank Fellini, ordered firefighters away from [WTC 7] for safety reasons." [New York Times]

In which case the "Pull It" statment from Larry Silverstein becomes less ambiguous

wehateporn 09-12-2011 02:48 PM

Here's something to think about, this is a French demolition technique known as Vérinage; it is performed without explosives. Hydraulics are used to push structural members out of alignment allowing the top portion of a building to then demolish the structure below via gravity alone.

I won't post my thoughts of how this compares with what we witnessed on September 11th, I'll leave this open for your opinions one way or the other

Keep it clean and try to give an unbiased opinion based on what you see :thumbsup


wehateporn 09-12-2011 03:08 PM

Now for what it's worth, here's the WTC 7 collapse to compare


mountainmiester 09-12-2011 03:14 PM

Behind, underneath, in front of and all around. or where you too young to remember.

What an absolutely horrible thing to honor those how died in this event. Clearly you lost no one nor do you care.

Whatever the fuck happened, today they are dead leaving behind loved ones. Let's try to focus on their lives and please save your political pontifications for a more appropriate moment.

helterskelter808 09-12-2011 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CodeR70 (Post 18422132)
We were talking about "after 9/11" right? But we can go even further, some actually think that the US (and allies) in Iraq or Afghanistan (or whatever) are considered to be terrorists? Anyway you wanna go with that is fine by me dude. Fact remains, the US does not have a monopoly on this. 9/11 was no the last terrorist attack as it was mentioned by the OP I was reacting on.

Well he said they haven't attacked "us", which I took to mean the USA, which they haven't. Anyway, not only are you correct to say other countries suffer from terrorism, and for decades before 9/11, they also respond to it in a more mature and proper way than the USA does.

They do not (with the exception of the other major rogue state in the world, Israel), start invading or bombing countries, or killing more innocent people, but they treat the terrorist acts as the crimes they are. They investigate the crime and find and prosecute those responsible in a legal way, and jail them.

You could put the USA's response to 9/11 down to a gun-crazy, cowboy-like immaturity, but it was really just about re-asserting control over the planet, and particularly the oil rich areas of the world, as laid out in the Neo-Con blueprint written one year before 9/11 that infamously pined for a "new Pearl Harbor". Pearl Harbor being the last time the US Government allowed/facilitated an attack on the USA, as pretext for joining a war that would make it the dominant power on the planet.

And now over 150 countries, according the Department of Defense, have US forces stationed on their soil, as part of the post WWII doctrine that the world belongs to the US.

papill0n 09-12-2011 05:04 PM

if you remember nothing else today remember this

those planes were flown into the towers as the direct result of one thing

the invasion and occupation of Iraq by US and coalition forces

glowlite 09-12-2011 09:16 PM

Truly amazing ...
A dozen+ porn slingers have actually figured out exactly what happened on September 11th, 2001. My God, why didn't you warn us? You rocket scientists could have certainly told us beforehand 9/11 was about to happen.

Or maybe not ...

Since the aftermath we (Americans) could have saved 100's of 1,000's of dollars in research just by asking one or two simple questions on GFY. I'm sure several of you analysts could have provided definitive answers.

Oh wait ... better yet... go back to selling pics/vids of naked people fucking to horny people. Now THAT's true rocket science. Tired of that? Go sell snowshoes in Alaska, suntan lotion in Hawaii, hotdogs at a ballgame, popcorn at a theater. You know, stuff that's _r e a l l y_ hard to sell. :1orglaugh

Bunch'a Monday morning quarterbacks :disgust

TiaLing 09-12-2011 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by glowlite (Post 18423084)
Truly amazing ...
A dozen+ porn slingers have actually figured out exactly what happened on September 11th, 2001. My God, why didn't you warn us? You rocket scientists could have certainly told us beforehand 9/11 was about to happen.

Or maybe not ...

Since the aftermath we (Americans) could have saved 100's of 1,000's of dollars in research just by asking one or two simple questions on GFY. I'm sure several of you analysts could have provided definitive answers.

Oh wait ... better yet... go back to selling pics/vids of naked people fucking to horny people. Now THAT's true rocket science. Tired of that? Go sell snowshoes in Alaska, suntan lotion in Hawaii, hotdogs at a ballgame, popcorn at a theater. You know, stuff that's _r e a l l y_ hard to sell. :1orglaugh

Bunch'a Monday morning quarterbacks :disgust

That's pretty funny , lol :)

Anyone that seriously believes this conspiracy theory crap has issues. We got attacked, our lives changed as a result ... we've prevented many attacks since in the u.s. ,however , many have succeeded in other countries. Say what you want about Bush, but many of his policies kept us safe. What's so hard to believe about that ???
Geese !


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