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Stalking posters is of course a trick of itself, but it's doable. Old school posters who mostly worked for a few "thank you"s and a free premium rapidshare account were not that easily thwarted, because they were not financially interested (or at least that was not a priority), they also had an ideology to justify what they're doing (sharing is caring, however twisted alot of them truly believed in that sharing nonsense) and community support. And they were usually a niche connoisseurs who knew where to find good stuff and knew it's not easily replacable with something else, that's why they didnt switch quickly to some other stuff after DMCA bombing. They'd start dodging, using linksave, rename files, move to other board(s) (alone with the hordes of their followers). It was also not uncommon for them to actually buy access to paysites that they wanted to "share" with their buddies to get appreciation. It is all gone with the new generation of serial cash posters. Money is the only ideology that they have now, and most of them is actually too dumb to have any other. That makes them easier and more vulnerable targets - when they see some type of content is being systematically taken down, they skip on it and move on. |
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Despite the obvious increase in the amount of posts (thanks to auto-posters), we find it easier to control board piracy now then it was back in the rapidshare heyday. Not much of the new stuff gets posted, and it is much easier to "convince" posters nowadays to switch to posting something else with a few DMCAs. They're not emotionally attached to your stuff or niche as it was often the case back in the "sharing" days, it is all about money and only about money for them now. If they're loosing links because of DMCAs, they'd simply download some other "megapack" from a torrent, post it and see if it lives. If yes, they'd post and repost the hell out of it. If not, back to step one. |
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Every now and then I pop over to wjunction.com and look at all the threads of people's earnings ripping you guys off.
All these lockers know that people post warez, it's criminal that they get away with it. |
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I love all the clowns on this forum that think they're smart for realizing this NOW when it's been going on for quite some time. |
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see https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=990150 within that thread are examples of how to embed whatever info you require within the video and images. In your face, or transparently. |
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I have scripts that can do this and a package for setting up the protected streams. Often thou is the prob of integrating into the client CMS ewhich is often encoded script I'm not on icq cos the fucker won't let me log in anymore |
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Agreed Most of these profit pirates will give up after you DMCA their links a few times. The worst infringer gave up after about 12 re-ups. It's by far a loosing battle for content producers that truly care about their product. I run 18 adult sites and produce content for 3 of them and sales are good, not 2007 good but in the current climate, adult still has plenty of opportunity for good earnings. |
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Nowadays those outright criminal hosts like oron do not even remove files but mere links, and uploaders could always generate a new set of links for replacement. That's still a work to do, and often manually because auto-replacement is not always supported, but it's still alot easier for them anyway than to really upload a file again. |
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I'm seeing some weird things in this area too. Some posters have commented on forums that "links got deleted and I'm not re-uploading that again, sorry if you didn't get it first time" So to me, I'm suspecting a two tier system, paid account holders and your freebie uploader....one gets deleted, one doesn't. |
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Read the post you fucking idiot. |
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It is also possible that things vary from host to host, some offer fake links and some don't. I know for certain that Oron offers that, and probably Filesonic too, about others I'm not so sure. You wouldn't know unless you signup and start uploading, which I'm sure not going to do. |
I blame Googyle and the other search engines.
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Two tiers in the fight; a company or group doing what these pitbull guys do ie identify refusals forwarding that information to a group like my personal side project. We have lawyers in multiple countries setup to file. Sued users for leaking content and hosts for refusals and won everytime; never lost.
Thing is nobody ever does the research or even calls a lawyer with ip experience; it's a hands down you will win. Nobody has sued pornbb.com because it's still up. 9/10 they won't even show up ending in a default judgement you take that to icann and you have the domain name. Fake information in whois? instant win.. Fight back instead of bitchin not a country on the planet wants ip laws to be ignored. It's amazing what a visit from the Latvian police will do to a stubborn host.. Those people live in fear. We need to get together or give up; I see a bright future in enforcement along with new laws coming in china and russia things will change. |
The insurance industry has ACORD forms
which are very hard to crack and are only considered "real" when the coding is read by a doc reader with ACORD extension, which can be tracked .
The real problem is there is no standard and never will be because 10% think they can be on top with the sinking model, on top at 1:300, on top at 1:3000 on top at 1:30000 and so on. If even the 100 largest of you would allow a standard, it would be adopted. Probably half of you are on this board. Force a real-time blind data collect algorithm as an extension. Microsoft did a similar thing with hardware hashtable codes and their sales went up just from registrations. It is a pain, but it works in the long run. |
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So dude? heh. |
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What's going on now is once a file locker hits saturation with premium accounts sold they go and open a new site so all the posters can then force everyone to buy new premium accounts. Filesonic beget Wupload which beget Filepost and all three are owned by the ex-Brazzers owners who have moved on from tubesites to file lockers.. |
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I don't know about Brazzers owning them but they'd certainly have the resources. |
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I might go into the forums and at least post my banner in the siterip posts so I at least get some "feel sorry for you" traffic lol. I couldn't even get a new account at pornbb.org LOL.
I personally like the one forum on intporn: Porn SiteRips (3 Viewing) / Do you have a closed down porn site worth saving for the future? Why try to give your description some legitimacy - what porn site owner would ever just upload his site to a public forum to be stolen lol. |
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current imagebam.com/image/168b45150806763 but before that imagebam.com/image/4ab494150806762 Sometimes I'd bcc the bosco1 gmail address on takedowns to dmca@filesonic and Bosco1 would reply acting clueless but ask repeatedly where I found such ludicrous info. I guess he eventually found out it was on DomainTools. I was also warned by him "Should I find any public statements in which you claim I own those websites I will contact legal counsel without delay." |
Did you guys ever consider giving away your own older content for free on your own website, in nice flash video windows with proper thumbnails and descriptions? Basically making your own tubes, but higher quality videos, no pop-up ads and you're the only one allowed to upload content? I'm going to do that, to generate more traffic and sales. All my old content can be downloaded from hundreds if not thousands of tubes, boards and torrent sites now anyway so I might as well give it away for free. And then hope that 1% is willing in buying a subscription to see the newest videos. Now if all producers would do that, and on each page you also show one video of another producer, we keep the traffic in our own hands again.
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Nate at takedownpiracy.com does a great job at removing content from all these forums. :thumbsup
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But how many people are paying for Filesonic? After all they're part of an audience that doesn't want to pay for porn out of principle. I think RapidShare made a lot of money because they were the first, but the ones who came after that?
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it really not that difficult you talking an extra 22 minutes per video max. |
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If you ask me though, downloading multiple files from a locker is harder than torrents. |
Exactly and torrents are free. And yes there's also things like software and BluRays on lockers but I guess that someone who downloads porn isn't interested in CS 5.5 or the newest games and game people aren't interested much in porn and if you can download something for free you don't mind having to wait due to reduced speed. I think it must be shit trying to make money from a locker or tube site.
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