It isn't a bank, but we have been working with them for a while now, it isn't a new and unknown company. All payments have gone through perfectly through Earthport and we are hoping to have the issue with the current bank sorted out quickly.

:1orglaugh I wanted to say the same... :1orglaugh

I can't wait untll my Paxum card arrives. WHY I did not get one earlier was the DUMBEST thing I did this year.

Trust me, Payoneer was great for me for approx 8 months until my sponsor was suddenly unable to load money. About 28 days now since they could not load. They are on the second bank trying to load money to pay guys like me.

So I am waiting on the wire still from 9-16 period. We are on day 24 when I should have been payed by Payoneer on day 1 (Sept 1)

Wire sent 9-19 Monday. Getting a bit worried it didnt come Friday 9-23 (yesterday) and also talking to sponsor to make sure all is right with the wire.

So there is a lot of worry about this wire and a LOT of agita over Payoneer dropping the ball for ME.

All is rosey until the day YOUR sponsor says, "sorry cant load". Got a back up plan? Besides international wires, cause they seem a bit shakey to me. Iffy as fuck.

Bank says up to 10 days. Did get one other from this sponsor in biz 3 days one other time. At 4 days with this one. Pain in the ass.

Last time I gave a corresponding bank, this time I didnt as their form had no spot for it. Other than THAT all should be correct. But my bank says no cb is needed. But this what you haver to deal with with wires.

I got spoiled by my little, "you got money" from Payoneer right on the 1st and the 16th. It was good while it lasted.

I WILL have this sponsor on Paxum by 10-16 for SURE. MAYBE 10-1. I am also emailing Paxum to see when my card comes. :)

Important shit.

For the record this has also caused me a $30 charge due to NSF at my bank.

I am not that worried cause the wire will EVENTUALLY come I am 99% sure. (It is that 1% that kills me :) ) but I have about one week before it HAS to be here. Otherwise more NSFs.

So yeah, agita!

This is dead serious shit to me right now.

MY fault for not getting Paxum as I could have been payed on 9-1 if I had Paxum. Plenty of warning.

But I thought and HOPED Payoneer would get it loaded since 8-25 before 9-1. Never happened. Then waited till 9-10. Never happened. Then went to wire to make this period's payout.

Thing is I am doing bettter than ever IF I could just get my money.

Think I will do a fucken PARTY thread when that FUCKEN wire hits even if "they" (banks across the world) take about 20%. :)

FINALLY out of the fucken red for GOOD! Just give me my 80% soon please GFY Gods. :)

Purty please with raspberries and whipped cream on top. :)

Someone tell me wires can NOT get lost. :)

Paxum, If you are reading this PLEASE expedite my card. IF I can get my card AND signed up to my sponsor by 10-1's payout you WILL have the best spokesman this board ever seen. :)

Ask Serge. :) I pay dividends for years. :)

Seriously tho. Get it out to me soon as poss. Thank you.

You would think by now International wires would be down to a science. SWIFT for the US was established in the mid 70s and IBAN for Europe (not sure when established) were supposed to make things more sound, safe and foolproof.

I dont think intl wires get lost too often but it does seem to happen altho I guess eventually they usually get squared around if the sender can trace them down.

I studied wires for the last 2 days. One site said that the process of wire sending included using SWIFT (or IBAN) to communicate with the receiving bank first BEFORE the wire is sent.

I managed to talk to my major bank's wire dept. They normally dont allow that but I was an exception. The girl could see this was important.

The wire girl told me, "no they just send em out blindly". My bank has no idea it or anything is coming. They just show up one day.

HELLO! You would THINK banks worldwide would run a trace BEFORE the wire is sent to make sure all is well and to KNOW for the receiver, that it is on it's way, but apparently not.

Who are the dipshit bankers who set this willy nilly system up. SWIFT only tells the final destination. There are no routing rules and a sending bank can choose the route and corresponding banks it wants to use. (to get max fees of course)

I just am not expert enough on intl banking to really know the process for sure.

Just heard from Paxum, looks like I'll be using wires one more period at least. Takes two weeks to print card and two weeks in the mail. I got 3 days in so far.

Doesnt happen quickly I guess.

Who are you talking to?

Last post, myself. :) Im done now tho.

Under a lot of stress lately.

Mostly I am talking to Payoneer and the wms who use them. I put my faith in them and they let me down.

This thread is titled "Payoneer in trouble" so I thought wms might like to hear that.

Is that ok with you?

Ill talk to myself if I Fucken want to.

OK?

Just because you are "Frank" dont fucken be rude to me.

Cause Ill post as many FUCKEN times as I want wherever I want.

I don't recall being rude to you?

Fair enough. I thought you were.

I have (-$67) to my name right now.

The wire is VERY important to me and Payoneer fucking me over has also pissed me off royally.

I am ranting a bit.

Sorry. If you are ever in this position I will ask you, "who are you talking to" and we will see how you handle it.

So far this month:

I got fucked over by Payoneer.
My best friend was killed. (Lucky)
I developed arterial nose bleeds twice.
I was splashed in the face with hot grease
I finally went broke (altho I am making more than ever)
and NOW my fucken wire is late.

I want to fucken either die or kill somebody.

:eek7


...

And yet I am having a record month after last month being a record month.

Just VERY frustrating.

But I *am* learning a LOT.

Fuck Payoneer. It is ALL their fault.

Sorry Talia but I ASSuMEd Payoneer would NOT fuck up and you did. 28 fucken days and COUNTING to load my sponsor's wire.

Oh YOU are a REAL GOOD paying system alright.

I am almost on the street after trusting your company to pay me on time.

28 days and counting.

Go fuck yourself Payoneer. YOU SUCK as a paying system!

You fuck me in the ass, I fuck you in the ass!

Oh and Frank, I am talking to Talia now just so you know.

I like it when chicks talk about assfucking.

Something to blow some steam off, Vjo ...

28 days! What if my sponsor didnt have wires or Paxum? What if all I had was YOU?

And no I will not tell my sponsor to Talia or anyone else. People know I am not BSing.

I dont lie. I am poor but honest.

Talia, WHAT sponsor has been trying to load their acct with Payoneer since August 25?

Shouldnt be hard to determine unless you have a bunch of sponsors trying to load.

They are honest and are NOW on bank #2 trying to load to you.

They may not bitch about it but I will.

My sponsor pays by:
Payoneer
Paxum
Wire
Webmoney
Ecoin

ALL of them are doing biz with my sponsor. All of them paid on time but YOU.

What sponsor is it? I'm considering changing from wire to payoneer, want to make sure it's not the one you are whinging on about.

Who or what is Ecoin? And isn't Webmoney some Russian thing?

:) Frank, you're a good guy. Sorry if I was overboard.

CH, Thanks, I'll stick to my ole 60's and 70s for unwinding. Each to his own. :) Thanks man. :)

OK I said my piece. I think Payoneer deserved to hear it. I "fell thru the cracks" as Talia said.

Well I went down the cracks with a scream. I hope that was ok.

God i'm hungry.

Id rather keep the sponsor out of it. Thank you.

I needed to vent. Maybe Talia can get their wires accepted before the 1st. That would help. I would use Payoneer again then.

Payoneer is a good system. They just wont take my sponsor's wire. So I guess that is how it goes for me. Not their fault I suppose. Just biz.

Talia, only biz, nothing personal. :)

Still, considering what suddenly not paying after paying for 8 months did to my finances it needed to be said.

So when you cut off a sponsor after 8 months PLEASE let this thread remind you there are people who fall thru the cracks and who have REAL consequences from SUDDEN changes in policy.

Thankfully my other sponsors all been paying on time.

How can you have only 4000 posts since 2002.

I had tater tot hotdish before this thread. :) I hear ya tho. My threads take a lot of calories to get through. hehe :)

Intense! :)

Come on over Frank, I'll fix ya up with some of my tater tot hotdish. Best around. :) Bout all I can afford this month. :)

Bud or Coraon. Got one bud and 2 Coronas and -$67 to my name.

Yeah I need this wire and the fucking WORLD will hear about it until I get it. :)

I have about 4000 since 2009 :) I was making a killing with Adwords. I didnt need boards.

I was making $1700 a month on the keyword teensforcash in 2007. I didnt even have teens for cash. But then Google canned me for trying to get keywords like teenbabes, teenbitches, ect. I didnt know it but you can onlu get declined so many times. And they canned me in late2007. I lost 95% of income over night. So I drifted back to GFY to "adapt".

But I damn near DIED. LOL :) True. Died from this biz.

But super low expenses even tho Im living under the poverty level and life cant kill the old cat. :)

I live on the basics man. :)

I have a couple friends who I could prob get a hundie if I needed it.

I get by with a little help from my friends.. and I have "depended on the kindness of strangers" as Blanche said in "A cat on a hot tin roof" :)

I also work everyday and I am starting to come on at last. THIS wire is the final hurtle. MAYBE a hurtle I am creating but still the final hurtle.

After 4 years of going broke, and getting help both on and offline, I am making more each month at last :thumbsup

Just need to hold on one more day.

Wilson Phillips? :) naaaaaaaaah

Ian Gomm of course :)

Ever considered ritalin?

I'm soerry, VJO, but as I said before, the problem with your sponsor seems to be a different problem. You haven't told me who it is, so I couldn't check, even though I repeatedly asked you here and via email (which you didn't reply to). I can only help people when they give me the information I need to be able to help.

We did not have one single wire not go through in August or the beginning of September, this problem is from the past couple of weeks. As I mentioned before, if we are not allowing a sponsor to transfer money, this isn't something I can comment on - we have absolutely zero reason to reject a partner unless something fishy is going on.

All wires that have been rerouted through Earthport have arrived without a problem, not one has been late or missing, and all related payments have gone out on time (as more than one person has mentioned on this thread).

The "fallen through the cracks" was that I wasn't online for a day since I was sick (sorry), but I not only tried to reply to you as quickly as I could when I got back, but I literally ran around through 3 departments at the office trying to figure it out, but without knowing what sponsor you are talking about, and knowing 100% that we didn't have any rejected wires at the time, my hands were tied.

I'm sorry for seeming bitchy, but I'm sick of people complaining and not letting others try to help. I'm here to help, so utilize me when I ask for information instead of just cussing me out and not giving anyone a chance to help you.

lol Nah, cant afford health insurance. :)

I did try supposedly pure THC tho in about 1973 and man let me tell ya, all ya did was laugh :)

See the links below. That is my nature. I am a child of the 70s. Prob the most wacked out gen of them all.

My nature is to fuck off. I dont need much to have a good time. :) I am a child of the 70s. Noone under 40 will ever understand how sweet the early 70s were and how it changed my gen.

We're still fucked up. :) Eternal buzz.

THC > Ritalin

and pie = 3.14 :)

I spent my 20s like an idiot in Engineering classrooms. Then realized I dont like Engineering after I graduated. I was a professional student. :)

I would cram 5 chapters of Mgmt 303 in 3 hours before the test. :) Read it all and know it. Then forget it while I was burning one back at my apt. :) They tell me I have a 160 but I just know I can learn things extremely fast.

I am among only 3% of males who will never get married. Not cause I am not good looking. :)

I have stories. Lots of em. :thumbsup

after dropping acid this was the best at 6am



but I was 15, dont anyone do that shit now

I suppose I better not bump this thread forever. :)

Id rather just leave it as that. I said my piece. Perhaps I am not being fair so Ill leave it at that and wont post about it anymore. I realize you need the sponsor to do anything.

Maybe the sponsor messed up. That is poss.

I apologize for going overboard with names or whatever.

Missing that payment from Payoneer on Sept 1 has caused me to miss a payment and behind on the second payment. Am now -$67 bank balance. About 30 mins on my cell phone. No cash, dead broke. And about $1.55 in change in my car. Food till about next Friday maybe.

That is the gods honest truth. I dont even have enough gas to drive to the welfare office. :) Sad but true.

My whjole life depends on this wire appearing soon.

That will mess you up. I had to use a wire from this sponsor after missing those two payments which is turning out to be slow.

Anyhow I think I have earned the right to speak my mind BUT I realize without the sponsor I should go no further. So lets just forget it.

This soothes me :)



Peace out

I like you, FWIW, and I don't think you're making this up, but what possible reason can you have for not naming a sponsor who has not paid you?

If Payoneer is saying there are no problems and the sponsor is using a problem as an excuse, for all you know, the sponsor is just trying to rip you off.

At the very least you should contact Payoneer privately to tell them the sponsor.

I absolutely believe you - this is how you make your living. I would be angry, too, if I didn't get paid like I was supposed to.

Thanks, BTW :thumbsup

I figured it was about time I put my pic up instead of the Payoneer logo (as pretty as it is)

@vjo you should think about your thread titles in the future...before you post like a maniac

a lot of us are still fucked by the whole epass affaire... and threads like this make that stress feeling come back, that is completely unnecessary so don't overreact man...

payoneer is fine

Thanks Talia, I could give you my acct (and maybe I should) and you can see what sponsor I use.

But keep it quiet. :) I prob should. Maybe you can get em loaded before 10-1.

Still I have the wire coming just hit a very low point. Like I say, SOON as the wire comes my life changes. :) But if it doesnt.. I dont want to think about it. The sponsor is honest as the day is long they just are an ocean away.

I am not in bad shape (well I am in bad shape lol ) but soon as the wire comes I am home. :)

The wire will sooth the beast. What this is really about is the wire. It is late and so I am freaking.

Payoneer is a first class payer. I was out of line here really but hopefully you can see why. Just scared to be honest. I know it is coming but what if..

My purchased traffic sources are also grinding to a halt or have ground to a halt. My sources: I will soon be adding funds. :)

I blame noone but me. I just had to vent. I should of had Paxum too.

I am thinking of starting a "party till the wire comes" thread. :) Or "party cause the wire is coming" or "party to make the wire come". :)

When it does, my life changes. It is a fairly big wire. :)
If it doesnt, well, it will but I may just get behind a bit more. All in all this is a day to be happy. :)

Thanks Talia, no hard feelings, stuff happens. We'll get by. And prob use Payoneer again. :)

Who knows maybe they are a lil crooked :1orglaugh

I do understand you completely, but you are bashing a company that has done nothing wrong (same would go for any other company, not just us) and giving us a bad name. Lesser people would do something about it... You should be careful in the future - in general. :-)

They are fine but I would still get Paxum for insurance. :)

It is what it is. I didnt lie so you all make your own minds up.

Payoneer is a GREAT payer but IF they decide your sponsor's bank is off limits then you may need to make other payment arrangements. That is all. Happened to me. Ignoring the fact that it CAN happen doesnt change anything. It happened to me.

Maybe the sponsor was at fault. That is poss. We are ALL third parties. This is between the sponsor and Payoneer and I am sure they are both working on this now. But they have been working on it for 28 days.

Anyhow I have to get out of this thread. :)

Noone will do nothing to me. :)

When you got nothing. you got nothing to lose.

I think in the legal world they call it "exempt" :)

In other words Judgement proof. One of the bennies of living under the poverty level. :)

Shall we discuss this. :)

You know I love to talk. :)

I said Payoneer may not be at fault. Might be the sponsor. No need to play the "threat" card.

This is WHY I dont trust YOU at all with giving you my acct or sponsor.

See folks how quickly the powerful company turns on the little broke guy with threats of "doing something".

I am replying to the OP, not you Talia. He asked if Payoneer was in trouble. I gave my opinion.

Now let me leave this thread.



you just have to love beans

I wasn't asking for your bank account or even Payoneer account and I DEFINITELY didn't threaten, just letting you knwo you should be careful. I was only asking what the sponsor was - I didn't even ask you for your email address on file to check your Payoneer account. If I don't know the sponsor - I can't help, which means you won't give us a chance to check the problem.

You make a point. Certainly if the wire never comes you will ALL know who. :)

But it will come. :) Just get passed around Asia and Europe for a while as everyone takes a scoop out. :)

SOON as my Paxum card arrives.. Happy days are here again.

Is it ok to say that?

I love you Ruth and Chris. :)

I cant wait to use my Paxum card. We are gonna rock and roll that day. :)

Do you send a cute email too when the money comes. I like that. :) I love the cute email.

Seriously, international wires are a nightmare. :Oh crap

Ok NOW Im gone from this thread, seriously.

I had to answer helterskelter :)

After Epassporte none of you has a good name; nothing to do with what anyone here says. And "non-threats" like that don't help your case either.

Fair enuf. :) Let's forget it.

I just thank you all for your understanding. Technically I am in the wrong here. I am. Just understand where Im at. It is not really Payoneer's fault I realize.

Prob is more my sponsor's fault as THEY are responsible for paying me.

Thank you for understanding. I realize I am wrong here for the most part. Just under pressure.

Thanks everyone for cutting me a break.

And no offense Talia. :)

Say a prayer for the wire. :) Thanks.

OK NOW Im gone. :) No matter what. :)

For what it's worth, I had no intention of threatening, so sorry if it came off that way. I COMPLETELY understand everyone's mistrust with any payment system after ePass.

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