50 empty threats and bullheaded assumptions.

There's no way for a site owner to verify that the person visiting his site is 18 or 21 or 65 years old. There's no way to be sure (not even scanning a gov issued id...).

As a site owner, I already tag my sites. I'm under no obligation to tag my sites, but I still choose to do it. That way responsible parents can easily block access to my sites. If parents choose not to do this, that is their responsibility. I'm not responsible for their actions or the actions of their children.

I have principles. I don't steal, I don't commit murder, I don't rape. I don't violate other people's property rights. What other people choose to do with their property, is their decision. If they allow their children to use their computers without supervision and their children end up on goatse.cx, that is their responsibility, not mine.

they should block .xxx referrer with .htaccess....
this way it would be easy to verify who is full of shit hypocrite, and who really stands for what they believe in :thumbsup

so which affiliate program will be the first to block .xxx referers?

yup, that's right... *crickets* :1orglaugh

This is so silly. If everyone on GFY boycotted the domain there'd be a whole group of companies and affiliates that would just take up the slack and take advantage. A million bucks is a lot of money on GFY but it's jack shit in the real world. Are you saying someone couldn't throw a million bucks at videos.xxx, fill it up with legal content and take a huge chunk of traffic, wax and repeat? It's going to happen, nothing we say or do will change this. Everything that could change this is out of our direct control.

Ah, but you aren't doing everything you can to verify it's an adult. If you think kids shouldn't view porn you should do everything you can to make sure that doesn't happen. That doesn't mean 'everything that doesn't inconvenience you too much or cost you money'.

I don't understand why you are arguing exactly? I'm using the same line of reasoning you were using on page one when calling for people to turn down money if it's coming from the big bad wolf. You know, out of principle.

to be honest, do what you want.

feel free to do bz with .xxx, but then when .xxx are blocked by isp's or whatever, do not moan that its all over and your seeking a job in burger king.

to be honest i am fed up of people doing what they can to end online porn just so they can make a few dollors today.

anyway, i thank you to all those who set up big tube sites and all those who plan to work with .xxx for putting an end to online porn. thank you very much, i bet those anty porn people must find it amazing that you did there work for them.



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the only thing that would stop them would be a trade group that had a voice in washington and the government bureaucracies, which icm has and is building. maybe the courts, but doubtful. manwin just wants a piece of that pie, they are not trying to "save the industry."

thinking a xxx banner or gallery will change anything is sort of funny as there will only be a handful of adult sites on the domain for awhile anyway.

like u-bob pointed out, this is capitalism, voluntary exchange of goods, and services or what not...

don't like the price? don't buy it! why do you care that some people are getting the domain for free? and so what that some premium .xxx domains sell for ridiculous prices?

If I created .woj tld, I could sell it for $1000/year if I wanted to, and I could give it away for free to all my friends, what's so wrong about that? would you care if my premium.woj domain sold for millions? of course not... it's my TLD I invested resources to make it happen, I deserve to reap rewards from it... isn't that how capitalism works?

How does ISPs blocking .xxx effect you in any way, I thought you aren't buying any .xxx domains?

Yeah, an outright boycott would be stupid but he certainly has the right to see what the market will bear and if therein lies an opportunity to further exploit the exploited, he might as well do it. Especially given the increased leverage that comes with the fact that Manwin traffic is no longer an option for .xxx sites.

Still amazes me how some have a grasp of what goes on around them while the majority can read and contribute here for years but not have the slightest idea. Glad to see some common sense from several in this thread, we've lost so many over the years that the idiocy can be deafening at times.

u will not get those galleries from me shemp :)

its not going to affect me unless porn is forced onto .xxx.

by the way its not capitalism, its about .xxx being a monoloply, in the sense the object is to force porn one way or other to go with .xxx.

its like being only alowed to sell your products at one supermarket, not any other.

I doubt there would be many submitters with .xxx domains.

But yah I would accept the $$ and run my biz as usual.

as i say feel free to make what you can from .xxx, as there is always scum who try to make what they can in the short tum, regardless of the results, even if that in a few years time ends online porn.

anyway its good to see you have got your excuses ready.

its a bit like strikers. the bulk hold out while some scabs look after themselves.

and those who deal with .xxx are just scabs.

good look to you, but i will do the right thing and not deal with .xxx

some of us put principles before profit.

easy to do when you have no profit.

If a high enough percentage of adult websites are on .XXX, it will seem to some like a fair argument to move all of adult onto XXX, but if very few are there then it would seem like a silly argument.

The more money that we give to .XXX the more money they will have to invest in influencing major changes to the Adult Internet. Whatever our beliefs are will eventually become solid reality :2 cents:

And I'm saying that regardless of whether or not you buy domains and support them there are those that will. Instead of buying 1 name they'll buy 2 or 20 if nobody is taking the good stuff.

stocktrader23 sells traffic off tube and probably piracy sites. He contacted me about my contact buying traffic. I have it somewhere, so take my word for it.

stocktrader23 porn was recession proof, until clever guys like you gave the buyers the option of getting it for free. Cocaine is recession proof. Unless someone give addicts the option to get it for free.

Great post. Except online porn won't be dead. Selling mainstream will be on life support as most surfers will get it from Tubes. A few micro niche sites will survive, on a smaller budget.

Without the death of those who support Tubes by advertising on them. And some major laws. Online porn will become a Ghost town.

http://www.nancykwon.com/test/wp-con...ghost_town.jpg

If online porn dies. Offline porn will flourish in a way that never has happened before. Those getting their daily dose of free porn, will have to go and buy it. So pornographers have nothing to fear. Those selling traffic, in any way, will be gone.

so don't feaar for the porn business.

one of the points is that as with tubes, every postured that they weren't going to do business with tubes/mansef, but pretty much everyone did on the sly. people built and grew tubes in secret and took their money and traffic.

what people pronounce on a message board means nothing.

this is just the gfy group mob herd behavior of the week where everyone postures but change and do nothing.

why is gambling / las vegas hurting as well this recession? this recession is new territory where many trusted economic truisms are seen to be lacking and wrong.

of course you opinions are useless and live in the past as well so who cares.

becase as carl marx points out that when people are unhappy they turn to drugs.

and so in an economic downturn we will see a rise in alcohol, drugs and gamberling.

if the economy improves the trend will reverse itself.

You'd be right there if the prices were low, but it isn't going to happen at the current prices.

.XXX are shooting themselves in the feet :2 cents:

one forgets they invested a huge amount nto .xxx

so less we give them, the more likly they will go bust.

i stopped at "carl."

if you can't respect your readers to use a spell check i assume you don't trust these ideas with the respect they deserve.

they may even put prises up.

if porn ends up on .xxx they become a monopoly.

in such case logic will be they simply push prises up and up.

you have no choice but to pay.

interesting

when one cannot defend ones argument, resort to insults (of sorts).

porn is free on tubes

so thats it

when i say porn is dead i mean no money in it, as in setting up pay sites.

there will be lots of free porn. on tubes or on forums.

to be honest i still cannot see why you would ever pay for porn when its free.

anyway i am off to look at some porn tube sites to see what is new on the updates. i find t as much fun to see what is new as to watching it.

as a serfer i love porn tubes. as a webmaster i hate them.

it's because their market is initially mainstream not adult. they are looking at making 200 million a year. it is sheer fantasy to think they are "going under" anytime soon.

they are building up a huge war chest off mainstream brand owner blackmail which they then will use to rope adult sites and billing under them.

when the adult industry concerned itself with sales and traffic they thought big and went to the source: first tlds and then billing.

how is that an insult? if you have not mastered the basics of the english language it is safe to deduce what you are writing is lacking.

lol .. a little harsh ?

I am not flaming you , but what did you do to stop .xxx before it got off the ground ?

Why are you upset with .xxx ( i.e. why do you propose a boycott ) ?

How do you feel about manwin ? Do you feel manwin should be boycotted ?

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Make them pay a premium. They wanted to be special, so let them be.

Do you want your business to be listed as a terrorist supporter?

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ive already been contacted by webmasters asking about .xxx gallery submits..thus the reason for my post...

will you buy content from me for the same amount for every .xxx client i turn away? in that case i might consider that.

and i have actually discussed with them in public while most were just hiding behind their keyboards.

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This has officially become part of my signature. Thanks Shap!

They might even give it to you so they can say you have a .xxx

Possibly, if you believe that most of the adult industry is against .xxx

It is GFY

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Many people here are pissed at .XXX because they can't afford $100/year for a domain.

Just look at how excited they get when registrars have a $1 day special. :1orglaugh

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I wouldn't have found this thread amusing if the OP had started it before manwins.

I thought tgp's and link lists created their own page long rule lists, not from what the jist of what was going on in forums.

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This is probably why you will never be successful.

We have stood together against MR though :2 cents:

I agree. Any smart business person should spend 10x as much for an inferior product just because they can.

As evidenced by people starting threads every other day asking if people received their latest payment.

Sounds like MR are so screwed now that they can't afford the payouts, so enough people have jumped ship :2 cents:

Nobody was paying attention but that ship was already sinking.

The big difference between the tube issue and this is that whereas most of the vocal anti-tube people here are passively and publicly griping about a decentralized opponent while hoping for a pretend law to be both passed and enforced by a generally anti-porn government, Manwin is aggressively attacking a singular opponent on the basis of an existing law and are willing to use their considerable amount of leverage by refusing to send traffic to .xxx domains.

I also saw in another thread about how Manwin will still send traffic to other websites owned by companies that have .xxx domains. Doing so may piss off the white knight crowd but I think it shows how they are honed in on the enemy and are going straight for their throats. It's beautiful.

Missteps and all, the ICM has pretty much steamrolled through their opposition (such as the FSC) much in the same way the Germans steamrolled through Poland and Czechoslovakia. Now they're in Russia. And it just started snowing.

Also keep in mind that the anti gfy mob herd types like stocktrader23 are ostensibly no different than the gfy mob herd types like gideongallery and both are equally irrelevant. No matter what side you take on any issue, there will be idiots who have somehow arrived at that same conclusion, be it through some weird, crazy or semi-retarded path. Nobody should worry about those idiots. Period. Everything should be viewed independently on a case by case basis. with that being said, it is still somewhat understandable to consistently bet against the gfy mob herds because they are overwhelmingly wrong. It's just that doing so in this case means you'd also wagering on whether or not you think Lawley brought enough long underwear to keep his little guy warm during what looks to be a brutal, brutal Russian winter.

You are a complete fucking idiot. I have always and will always speak my mind. I am not your typical GFY moron that talks out of his ass and to treat me as such shows your severely limited mental capacity even if it's only on this issue.

There is no other way to put it. You are an ignorant motherfucker.

Have a good day. :thumbsup