Originally Posted by RyuLion (Post 18604264)

Make those submission go to a special confirmation page that reads:

We are against .XXX domains, your domain has been added to our blacklist which we forward to all our partners so they can add it to their blacklist.
ty,
Have a nice day!

Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 18604267)

Can affiliates send you traffic from a .xxx domain? Seems if you are going to make a stance this would be a good place to do it, the doom stick crowd is here in full force.

Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 18604180)

Quite frankly sir, this is bullshit. Some of us actually have a grasp on reality and knew full well what was going on.

It took no hindsight to know that tubes would be huge and around for a long time. - (Many here still think some magic law will save them. :1orglaugh)

It took no hindsight to know that the economy would have some affect on porn sales. - (Many here claimed that this was a recession proof industry, no. matter. what. Now they are arguing that the Euro crisis has no effect on anything either.)

It took no hindsight to know that suing porn surfers for using LimeWire would not save a dying business model. - (Where are the guys that decided to go this route? Exactly.)

It takes no hindsight to figure out that .xxx is going to be around at least for the next year or three and that there's nothing we can do about it. - (The claims on this one are especially fun. Buying a $100 domain means you're stupid, I will never do business with a .xxx site, surfers will never find them because they use googe, and on and fucking on.)

L O FUCKING L. I mean that.

I have been in business for my entire adult life and half of my childhood. I know how fast the landscape can change and I know when something is inevitable. Many people here do but there are many that have their heads so far up their ass that they couldn't figure it out if this was 2021 and they were reading a history book.

I would be actual money that Shemp will list .xxx galleries if they pay him. Why? Because he's a genuinely smart guy and will figure it out. I think he's already decided and posted this to make some of you think. My opinion of course. :thumbsup

Originally Posted by woj (Post 18604211)

I haven't really been following all this .xxx drama, can someone clue me in what's so bad about .xxx anyway? is the slippery slope argument that one day all porn could be required by law to be hosted on .xxx the main reason why everyone opposes it so strongly?

Originally Posted by cherrylula (Post 18604277)

Yeah everyone will have to make their policy on this now, for sure. Will be interesting to see.

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18604272)

unless you are manwin not doing business with them isn't going to change shit.

remember most of the biggest anti-tube white knights still sold them links and traffic on the sly, still promoted juggcash and brazzers.

being a white knight on gfy doesn't pay the bills. who cares.

Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 18604224)

Thanks for making my point for me. It would be stupid to blacklist someone for not taking extreme measures to keep kids off your site and it would be stupid to blacklist someone for selling, buying or using a .xxx domain.

By the way, I love how when it's you in the scenario you want to pass the blame to parents. Kids have a million ways to get online with or without parents allowing it. If you want to play holier than thou internet White Knight of all that is against your principles then you want to do everything you can to keep them off of your sites. So how do you do that, a warning page? :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by cherrylula (Post 18604277)

Yeah everyone will have to make their policy on this now, for sure. Will be interesting to see.

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18604293)

.XXX will be a self-fulfilling prophecy. If we believe it will fail then it will, and if we believe it will be success then it will be.

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 18604299)

There's no way for a site owner to verify that the person visiting his site is 18 or 21 or 65 years old. There's no way to be sure (not even scanning a gov issued id...).

As a site owner, I already tag my sites. I'm under no obligation to tag my sites, but I still choose to do it. That way responsible parents can easily block access to my sites. If parents choose not to do this, that is their responsibility. I'm not responsible for their actions or the actions of their children.

I have principles. I don't steal, I don't commit murder, I don't rape. I don't violate other people's property rights. What other people choose to do with their property, is their decision. If they allow their children to use their computers without supervision and their children end up on goatse.cx, that is their responsibility, not mine.

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18604293)

IF you can afford to turn down their money, and only IF you can afford to, then do and make it as well known as possible so as more webmasters follow suit :2 cents:

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 18604284)

simple

.xxx costs a fortune. its being sold on fear. many non porn firms are buying in case porn is put on there domain.

.xxx owners have started to sell certain domains for a silly price.

some people seem to have been given .xxx domains free to sugest to us we should buy them.

in a few years chances are most isp's will make .xxx as an opt in, if not ban them.

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18604272)

unless you are manwin not doing business with them isn't going to change shit.

remember most of the biggest anti-tube white knights still sold them links and traffic on the sly, still promoted juggcash and brazzers.

being a white knight on gfy doesn't pay the bills. who cares.

Originally Posted by woj (Post 18604316)

like u-bob pointed out, this is capitalism, voluntary exchange of goods, and services or what not...

don't like the price? don't buy it! why do you care that some people are getting the domain for free?

If I created .woj tld, I could sell it for $1000/year if I wanted to, and I could give it away for free to all my friends, what's so wrong about that?

How does ISPs blocking .xxx effect you in any way, I thought you aren't buying any .xxx domains?

Originally Posted by woj (Post 18604316)

like u-bob pointed out, this is capitalism, voluntary exchange of goods, and services or what not...

don't like the price? don't buy it! why do you care that some people are getting the domain for free? and so what that some premium .xxx domains sell for ridiculous prices?

If I created .woj tld, I could sell it for $1000/year if I wanted to, and I could give it away for free to all my friends, what's so wrong about that? would you care if my premium.woj domain sold for millions? of course not... it's my TLD I invested resources to make it happen, I deserve to reap rewards from it... isn't that how capitalism works?

How does ISPs blocking .xxx effect you in any way, I thought you aren't buying any .xxx domains?

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 18604370)

some of us put principles before profit.

Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 18604303)

This is so silly. If everyone on GFY boycotted the domain there'd be a whole group of companies and affiliates that would just take up the slack and take advantage. A million bucks is a lot of money on GFY but it's jack shit in the real world. Are you saying someone couldn't throw a million bucks at videos.xxx, fill it up with legal content and take a huge chunk of traffic, wax and repeat? It's going to happen, nothing we say or do will change this. Everything that could change this is out of our direct control.

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18604399)

If a high enough percentage of adult websites are on .XXX, it will seem to some like a fair argument to move all of adult onto XXX, but if very few are there then it would seem like a silly argument.

The more money that we give to .XXX the more money they will have to invest in influencing major changes to the Adult Internet. Whatever our beliefs are will eventually become solid reality :2 cents:

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 18604262)

first lets stop calling this business, its not. its a farce. all that has happened over 10 or so years is sites setting up, people promote them, then they dash of with the cash.

so lets stop pretending we are some sort of professional business set ups. we are not. we sell smut - and that's it. its no more a business than selling drugs, except what we do is legal.

but that said....

we never learn do we.

we set up porn in the early days. then people had the clever idea to give most of the pics away on free sites. to everyone rushed out to do fhg of all there content. so the net filled up with free content. so a lot of people were happy with the free stuff and did not bother to buy.

then tubes came out. and all the sites went and thought lets put all out films on free. so that meant a lot more happy people who no longer needed to buy.

at this point porn online becomes almost dead.

so .xxx comes out.

a logical person can see that the bulk has been sold to non porn firms out of fear. one can also see that .xxx will become an opt in for ISP's very soon.

but rather than think long term, everyone sh*ts themselves and think short turn.

so they start to work with .xxx

in a few years we will then see .xxx becoming an opt in, maybe even forcing porn onto .xxx.

then its over.

lets make it clear, if any of you work with .xxx, do not dare to post in 5 years time that its all over, when online is fully dead except for free tube sites. just do not dare.

i predict in 5 years or less online porn will be dead the way things carry on.

and you know what the great thing about it is, we killed it. no one else to blame but us.

good night folks, its been fun.

Originally Posted by jimmycooper (Post 18604321)

Yeah, an outright boycott would be stupid but he certainly has the right to see what the market will bear and if therein lies an opportunity to further exploit the exploited, he might as well do it. Especially given the increased leverage that comes with the fact that Manwin traffic is no longer an option for .xxx sites.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18604403)

stocktrader23 sells traffic off tube and probably piracy sites. He contacted me about my contact buying traffic. I have it somewhere, so take my word for it.

stocktrader23 porn was recession proof, until clever guys like you gave the buyers the option of getting it for free. Cocaine is recession proof. Unless someone give addicts the option to get it for free.



Great post. Except online porn won't be dead. Selling mainstream will be on life support as most surfers will get it from Tubes. A few micro niche sites will survive, on a smaller budget.

Without the death of those who support Tubes by advertising on them. And some major laws. Online porn will become a Ghost town.

http://www.nancykwon.com/test/wp-con...ghost_town.jpg

If online porn dies. Offline porn will flourish in a way that never has happened before. Those getting their daily dose of free porn, will have to go and buy it. So pornographers have nothing to fear. Those selling traffic, in any way, will be gone.

so don't feaar for the porn business.

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18604411)

why is gambling / las vegas hurting as well this recession? this recession is new territory where many trusted economic truisms are seen to be lacking and wrong.

Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 18604401)

And I'm saying that regardless of whether or not you buy domains and support them there are those that will. Instead of buying 1 name they'll buy 2 or 20 if nobody is taking the good stuff.

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18604399)

If a high enough percentage of adult websites are on .XXX, it will seem to some like a fair argument to move all of adult onto XXX, but if very few are there then it would seem like a silly argument.

The more money that we give to .XXX the more money they will have to invest in influencing major changes to the Adult Internet. Whatever our beliefs are will eventually become solid reality :2 cents:

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 18604420)

becase as carl marx points out that when people are unhappy they turn to drugs.

and so in an economic downturn we will see a rise in alcohol, drugs and gamberling.

if the economy improves the trend will reverse itself.

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18604423)

You'd be right there if the prices were low, but it isn't going to happen at the current prices.

.XXX are shooting themselves in the feet :2 cents:

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18604427)

i stopped at "carl."

if you can't respect your readers to use a spell check i assume you don't trust these ideas with the respect they deserve.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18604403)

stocktrader23 sells traffic off tube and probably piracy sites. He contacted me about my contact buying traffic. I have it somewhere, so take my word for it.

stocktrader23 porn was recession proof, until clever guys like you gave the buyers the option of getting it for free. Cocaine is recession proof. Unless someone give addicts the option to get it for free.



Great post. Except online porn won't be dead. Selling mainstream will be on life support as most surfers will get it from Tubes. A few micro niche sites will survive, on a smaller budget.

Without the death of those who support Tubes by advertising on them. And some major laws. Online porn will become a Ghost town.

http://www.nancykwon.com/test/wp-con...ghost_town.jpg

If online porn dies. Offline porn will flourish in a way that never has happened before. Those getting their daily dose of free porn, will have to go and buy it. So pornographers have nothing to fear. Those selling traffic, in any way, will be gone.

so don't feaar for the porn business.

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18604423)

You'd be right there if the prices were low, but it isn't going to happen at the current prices.

.XXX are shooting themselves in the feet :2 cents: