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porno jew 12-03-2011 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 18604431)
interesting

when one cannot defend ones argument, resort to insults (of sorts).

how is that an insult? if you have not mastered the basics of the english language it is safe to deduce what you are writing is lacking.

SmokeyTheBear 12-03-2011 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 18604042)
on the other side, will you loose money from non .xxx (as in decent people) who do not want to do business with you for being a back stabbing trator.

lol .. a little harsh ?

I am not flaming you , but what did you do to stop .xxx before it got off the ground ?

Why are you upset with .xxx ( i.e. why do you propose a boycott ) ?

How do you feel about manwin ? Do you feel manwin should be boycotted ?

DWB 12-03-2011 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 18604057)
Accept them but charge them triple or equivalent. Not to be vindictive but if they have paid a premium amount for the domain they believe it is worth a premium amount. So you will make money from the stupid and or rich ones and still save face cause you are sticking it to the companies who bought the domains to begin with and you are still doing biz. This seems to be capitalist position.

+ 1

Make them pay a premium. They wanted to be special, so let them be.

Fletch XXX 12-03-2011 11:08 AM

Will your registrar offer .xxx and will you stop using them because of it?

DBS.US 12-03-2011 11:41 AM

Do you want your business to be listed as a terrorist supporter?

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv...734019036.html

the Shemp 12-03-2011 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by LeRoy (Post 18604339)
I doubt there would be many submitters with .xxx domains.

ive already been contacted by webmasters asking about .xxx gallery submits..thus the reason for my post...

MaDalton 12-03-2011 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 18604042)
on the other side, will you loose money from non .xxx (as in decent people) who do not want to do business with you for being a back stabbing trator.

will you buy content from me for the same amount for every .xxx client i turn away? in that case i might consider that.

and i have actually discussed with them in public while most were just hiding behind their keyboards.

vsex 12-03-2011 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 18604047)
Solidarity is nice in theory but this industry has proven time and time again it can not stand together.

The best advice I can give you is to do what is best for you with both your short term and long term goals in mind.

:thumbsup

This has officially become part of my signature. Thanks Shap!

baddog 12-03-2011 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jarmusch (Post 18604041)
Register Shemp.xxx and list all the .xxx galleries there perhaps.

They might even give it to you so they can say you have a .xxx

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Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 18604042)
on the other side, will you loose money from non .xxx (as in decent people) who do not want to do business with you for being a back stabbing trator.

Possibly, if you believe that most of the adult industry is against .xxx

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 18604044)
i do not understand this type of mafia behavior.

It is GFY

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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 18604047)
Solidarity is nice in theory but this industry has proven time and time again it can not stand together.

The best advice I can give you is to do what is best for you with both your short term and long term goals in mind.

:thumbsup

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Originally Posted by PowerCum (Post 18604153)
If it's a BBW gallery you should demand it to be on an .xxl domain :)

:1orglaugh

Jarmusch 12-03-2011 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 18604211)
I haven't really been following all this .xxx drama, can someone clue me in what's so bad about .xxx anyway?

Many people here are pissed at .XXX because they can't afford $100/year for a domain.

Just look at how excited they get when registrars have a $1 day special. :1orglaugh

stocktrader23 12-03-2011 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jarmusch (Post 18604712)
Many people here are pissed at .XXX because they can't afford $100/year for a domain.

Just look at how excited they get when registrars have a $1 day special. :1orglaugh

:upsidedow

Eyeball 12-03-2011 01:37 PM

http://kingsenglish.info/wp-content/..._clothing1.jpg

I wouldn't have found this thread amusing if the OP had started it before manwins.

I thought tgp's and link lists created their own page long rule lists, not from what the jist of what was going on in forums.

fuzebox 12-03-2011 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 18604262)
so lets stop pretending we are some sort of profeshional business set ups. we are not. we sell smut - and thats it. its no more a business than selling drugs, except what we do is legal.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

This is probably why you will never be successful.

wehateporn 12-03-2011 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by vsex (Post 18604674)
:thumbsup

This has officially become part of my signature. Thanks Shap!

We have stood together against MR though :2 cents:

epitome 12-03-2011 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jarmusch (Post 18604712)
Many people here are pissed at .XXX because they can't afford $100/year for a domain.

Just look at how excited they get when registrars have a $1 day special. :1orglaugh

I agree. Any smart business person should spend 10x as much for an inferior product just because they can.

epitome 12-03-2011 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18604745)
We have stood together against MR though :2 cents:

As evidenced by people starting threads every other day asking if people received their latest payment.

wehateporn 12-03-2011 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 18604762)
As evidenced by people starting threads every other day asking if people received their latest payment.

Sounds like MR are so screwed now that they can't afford the payouts, so enough people have jumped ship :2 cents:

epitome 12-03-2011 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18604773)
Sounds like MR are so screwed now that they can't afford the payouts, so enough people have jumped ship :2 cents:

Nobody was paying attention but that ship was already sinking.

jimmycooper 12-03-2011 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18604404)
one of the points is that as with tubes, every postured that they weren't going to do business with tubes/mansef, but pretty much everyone did on the sly. people built and grew tubes in secret and took their money and traffic.

what people pronounce on a message board means nothing.

this is just the gfy group mob herd behavior of the week where everyone postures but change and do nothing.

The big difference between the tube issue and this is that whereas most of the vocal anti-tube people here are passively and publicly griping about a decentralized opponent while hoping for a pretend law to be both passed and enforced by a generally anti-porn government, Manwin is aggressively attacking a singular opponent on the basis of an existing law and are willing to use their considerable amount of leverage by refusing to send traffic to .xxx domains.

I also saw in another thread about how Manwin will still send traffic to other websites owned by companies that have .xxx domains. Doing so may piss off the white knight crowd but I think it shows how they are honed in on the enemy and are going straight for their throats. It's beautiful.

Missteps and all, the ICM has pretty much steamrolled through their opposition (such as the FSC) much in the same way the Germans steamrolled through Poland and Czechoslovakia. Now they're in Russia. And it just started snowing.

Also keep in mind that the anti gfy mob herd types like stocktrader23 are ostensibly no different than the gfy mob herd types like gideongallery and both are equally irrelevant. No matter what side you take on any issue, there will be idiots who have somehow arrived at that same conclusion, be it through some weird, crazy or semi-retarded path. Nobody should worry about those idiots. Period. Everything should be viewed independently on a case by case basis. with that being said, it is still somewhat understandable to consistently bet against the gfy mob herds because they are overwhelmingly wrong. It's just that doing so in this case means you'd also wagering on whether or not you think Lawley brought enough long underwear to keep his little guy warm during what looks to be a brutal, brutal Russian winter.

stocktrader23 12-03-2011 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmycooper (Post 18604777)
The big difference between the tube issue and this is that whereas most of the vocal anti-tube people here are passively and publicly griping about a decentralized opponent while hoping for a pretend law to be both passed and enforced by a generally anti-porn government, Manwin is aggressively attacking a singular opponent on the basis of an existing law and are willing to use their considerable amount of leverage by refusing to send traffic to .xxx domains.

I also saw in another thread about how Manwin will still send traffic to other websites owned by companies that have .xxx domains. Doing so may piss off the white knight crowd but I think it shows how they are honed in on the enemy and are going straight for their throats. It's beautiful.

Missteps and all, the ICM has pretty much steamrolled through their opposition (such as the FSC) much in the same way the Germans steamrolled through Poland and Czechoslovakia. Now they're in Russia. And it just started snowing.

Also keep in mind that the anti gfy mob herd types like stocktrader23 are ostensibly no different than the gfy mob herd types like gideongallery and both are equally irrelevant. No matter what side you take on any issue, there will be idiots who have somehow arrived at that same conclusion, be it through some weird, crazy or semi-retarded path. Nobody should worry about those idiots. Period. Everything should be viewed independently on a case by case basis. with that being said, it is still somewhat understandable to consistently bet against the gfy mob herds because they are overwhelmingly wrong. It's just that doing so in this case means you'd also wagering on whether or not you think Lawley brought enough long underwear to keep his little guy warm during what looks to be a brutal, brutal Russian winter.

You are a complete fucking idiot. I have always and will always speak my mind. I am not your typical GFY moron that talks out of his ass and to treat me as such shows your severely limited mental capacity even if it's only on this issue.

There is no other way to put it. You are an ignorant motherfucker.

Have a good day. :thumbsup

stocktrader23 12-03-2011 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmycooper (Post 18604777)
Also keep in mind that the anti gfy mob herd types like stocktrader23 are ostensibly no different than the gfy mob herd types like gideongallery and both are equally irrelevant. No matter what side you take on any issue, there will be idiots who have somehow arrived at that same conclusion, be it through some weird, crazy or semi-retarded path. Nobody should worry about those idiots. Period. Everything should be viewed independently on a case by case basis. with that being said, it is still somewhat understandable to consistently bet against the gfy mob herds because they are overwhelmingly wrong.

Everyone I know would l o fucking l at this. I have been a step ahead of the masses here since the day I registered. What cracks me up about the whole thing is that it's not even like I'm some super genius or a fortune teller, I just have common sense. It's really not some difficult to understand concept and the fact that so many have it so wrong is :1orglaugh. There is a chance that Manwin will stop .xxx but I put that chance at well under 1%. In other words, everyone should be ready for a world that includes .xxx, like it or fucking not.

jimmycooper 12-03-2011 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18604745)
We have stood together against MR though :2 cents:

Wrong. So long as they are still in business and so long as anyone is still promoting their websites, MR is winning the war. Most people on gfy just want to troll and bitch. It really is a shame too bc that entire shitshow of a company could easily be destroyed within 2-3 months, I'm just not willing to spend all of my time and solely my own money to make it happen at the moment.

jimmycooper 12-03-2011 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 18604794)
Everyone I know would l o fucking l at this. I have been a step ahead of the masses here since the day I registered. What cracks me up about the whole thing is that it's not even like I'm some super genius or a fortune teller, I just have common sense. It's really not some difficult to understand concept and the fact that so many have it so wrong is :1orglaugh. There is a chance that Manwin will stop .xxx but I put that chance at well under 1%. In other words, everyone should be ready for a world that includes .xxx, like it or fucking not.

What metric did you use to arrive at 'less than 1%'? A Paul Markhem spreadsheet?

stocktrader23 12-03-2011 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmycooper (Post 18604798)
Wrong. So long as they are still in business and so long as anyone is still promoting their websites, MR is winning the war. Most people on gfy just want to troll and bitch. It really is a shame too bc that entire shitshow of a company could easily be destroyed within 2-3 months, I'm just not willing to spend all of my time and solely my own money to make it happen at the moment.

:1orglaugh

Clueless. You have as much of a chance at destroying that company as you do winning a women's gold medal in the olympics.

Jesus Christ, can we unban the trolls that at least had more sense than the current crop?

stocktrader23 12-03-2011 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmycooper (Post 18604804)
What metric did you use to arrive at 'less than 1%'? A Paul Markhem spreadsheet?

Common fucking sense and 10+ years of watching this shit go down.

I know it's hard for those without to grasp but common sense can tell you a lot of things. You don't have to study something from top to bottom to have a damn good idea of how things will go. It's not like we even have to wait that long to see how .xxx is embraced, hit me a month after registrations open and let me know just how bad off they are doing and how the whole industry is boycotting them. :1orglaugh

scottybuzz 12-03-2011 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmycooper (Post 18604777)

Also keep in mind that the anti gfy mob herd types like stocktrader23 are ostensibly no different than the gfy mob herd types like gideongallery and both are equally irrelevant. No matter what side you take on any issue, there will be idiots who have somehow arrived at that same conclusion, be it through some weird, crazy or semi-retarded path. Nobody should worry about those idiots. Period. Everything should be viewed independently on a case by case basis. with that being said, it is still somewhat understandable to consistently bet against the gfy mob herds because they are overwhelmingly wrong. It's just that doing so in this case means you'd also wagering on whether or not you think Lawley brought enough long underwear to keep his little guy warm during what looks to be a brutal, brutal Russian winter.

Sorry, but you are completely wrong here. People moan and complain about Gideon all day long,in the majority of arguments his reasoning is bewildering and baffling, simple fact is though he is correct.
Have tubes gone? no. Has there been a major copyright breakthrough? no. Are torrents still available? yes. Piracy is as strong as ever. Did Gideon predict this? You can bet your sweet ass he did.

it sucks, the whole piracy issue and it even sucks that he supports it but Gideon knows his shit.

is there any clear break through in sight? no. sopa is a joke

scottybuzz 12-03-2011 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 18604810)
Common fucking sense and 10+ years of watching this shit go down.

I know it's hard for those without to grasp but common sense can tell you a lot of things. You don't have to study something from top to bottom to have a damn good idea of how things will go. It's not like we even have to wait that long to see how .xxx is embraced, hit me a month after registrations open and let me know just how bad off they are doing and how the whole industry is boycotting them. :1orglaugh

exactly, its about money, if people can make money from xxx they will, if they lose money from not being able to conduct business with brazzers they will drop xxx
people have no long term vision, me included.

The only webmaster who I know boycotted Brazzers because of the tube sites was klen telaris and I am not even 100% sure that he has any traffic.

everyone else was happy to make easy money with juggcash and selling hardlinks to porntube (again me included).

stocktrader23 12-03-2011 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by scottybuzz (Post 18604829)
exactly, its about money, if people can make money from xxx they will, if they lose money from not being able to conduct business with brazzers they will drop xxx
people have no long term vision, me included.

The only webmaster who I know boycotted Brazzers because of the tube sites was klen telaris and I am not even 100% sure that he has any traffic.

everyone else was happy to make easy money with juggcash and selling hardlinks to porntube (again me included).

People like to spout of the idealistic tripe of "If we all stick together then" which is noble but never works in reality. GFY is not the adult internet, we will not control what others do online and we damn sure won't scare them with some boycott or another. If every single user here treated .xxx as scum there would be many more that would embrace it and continue on with business.

It's like they have some misguided idea that GFY = the adult internet when there are so many silent players and huge companies that have never even seen this website.

Knowing all of that, you would be a damn fool to cost yourself money on principle. You can say 'we should do x' but we know ahead of time that it's not going to happen so any worthless gesture you make is just that. What many will do is publicly say one thing then wait for someone else to take the heat before saying "yeah, we are too since everyone else did". This is true in every industry and always will be.

Now if we had an actual lobby that took votes on how everyone would act AND we could make people stick to that we might have a chance. Unfortunately, Lawley or whoever is about to have more money than everyone on GFY combined and they already know how to use it to their benefit.

jimmycooper 12-03-2011 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 18604807)
:1orglaugh

Clueless. You have as much of a chance at destroying that company as you do winning a women's gold medal in the olympics.

Jesus Christ, can we unban the trolls that at least had more sense than the current crop?

Please elaborate as to why you think they could not be destroyed.

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 18604810)
Common fucking sense and 10+ years of watching this shit go down.

I know it's hard for those without to grasp but common sense can tell you a lot of things. You don't have to study something from top to bottom to have a damn good idea of how things will go. It's not like we even have to wait that long to see how .xxx is embraced, hit me a month after registrations open and let me know just how bad off they are doing and how the whole industry is boycotting them. :1orglaugh

How will you know if they are doing well or not ? Even though you claim to possess a supernatural level of common sense, it goes without saying that you are completely and entirely irrelevant when it comes to any and all industry issues. Pretty sad for someone with 10+ years of experience. Have you thought about applying your supernatural common sense to another industry? Maybe one where you'd at least have a sliver of a chance at mattering? Or has your supernatural common sense told you that it's best to stay in adult even if it means you have to do so without the aid of a graphic designer ?

stocktrader23 12-03-2011 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmycooper (Post 18604854)
How will you know if they are doing well or not ? Even though you claim to possess a supernatural level of common sense, it goes without saying that you are completely and entirely irrelevant when it comes to any and all industry issues. Pretty sad for someone with 10+ years of experience. Have you thought about applying your supernatural common sense to another industry? Maybe one where you'd at least have a sliver of a chance at mattering? Or has your supernatural common sense told you that it's best to stay in adult even if it means you have to do so without the aid of a graphic designer ?

You mistake me for someone that wants to be relevant? I stay away from people, stay away from shows and don't do anything to be relevant. My goal is to make money and I do that in mainstream both online and off as well as adult. I only matter to me and my family and intend to keep it that way. Also, I have no idea what you mean when talking about a designer, I hired one last week but never "needed" one in my life.

topnotch, standup guy 12-03-2011 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 18604785)
You are a complete fucking idiot. I have always and will always speak my mind. I am not your typical GFY moron that talks out of his ass and to treat me as such shows your severely limited mental capacity even if it's only on this issue.

There is no other way to put it. You are an ignorant motherfucker.

Have a good day. :thumbsup

What's the matter Tube Boy, is he hitting a little too close to home?

Perhaps you should take this opportunity to log out and give your act a rest.

God knows it needs one.



.

stocktrader23 12-03-2011 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by topnotch, standup guy (Post 18604876)
What's the matter Tube Boy, is he hitting a little too close to home?

Perhaps you should take this opportunity to log out and give your act a rest.

God knows it needs one.



.

What the fuck are you talking about? :1orglaugh

wehateporn 12-03-2011 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmycooper (Post 18604798)
Wrong. So long as they are still in business and so long as anyone is still promoting their websites, MR is winning the war. Most people on gfy just want to troll and bitch. It really is a shame too bc that entire shitshow of a company could easily be destroyed within 2-3 months, I'm just not willing to spend all of my time and solely my own money to make it happen at the moment.

I'm not expecting MR to be around much longer personally :2 cents:

Tempest 12-03-2011 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by the Shemp (Post 18603987)
it won't be long before we start to get galleries submitted on .xxx domains.
do i accept the money and list them ...? what about the other sites like worldsex and the Hun... is there a consensus on this...what advice does the GFY universe have...?

I view it this way... If you don't need the money, then you can take a personal stance against it if you want to. Or, if you feel strongly enough, you could be willing to take a hit to stand up for that.

Beyond that, it comes down to figuring out what you might "lose" as a result of accepting, or not accepting the galleries. Will you lose more revenue by accepting the galleries from others taking a stance? Will you lose traffic from those that might stop trading with you? Will your rep take a hit that will result in a loss of revenue and/or traffic or narrow your future business options?

Some have said it's a business decision and that's correct to a certain extent. But the business decision has to take in more than just the immediate cash in the account.

wehateporn 12-03-2011 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 18604896)
I view it this way... If you don't need the money, then you can take a personal stance against it if you want to. Or, if you feel strongly enough, you could be willing to take a hit to stand up for that.

Beyond that, it comes down to figuring out what you might "lose" as a result of accepting, or not accepting the galleries. Will you lose more revenue by accepting the galleries from others taking a stance? Will you lose traffic from those that might stop trading with you? Will your rep take a hit that will result in a loss of revenue and/or traffic or narrow your future business options?

Some have said it's a business decision and that's correct to a certain extent. But the business decision has to take in more than just the immediate cash in the account.

Well said Tempest :thumbsup:thumbsup

Shap 12-03-2011 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by vsex (Post 18604674)
:thumbsup

This has officially become part of my signature. Thanks Shap!

:thumbsup:thumbsup

Shap 12-03-2011 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by vsex (Post 18604674)
:thumbsup

This has officially become part of my signature. Thanks Shap!

It only took me 10+ years to figure that out lol

Captain Kawaii 12-03-2011 04:03 PM

[QUOTE=stocktrader23;18604095]


Paying $100 for a damn domain name has no bearing on what other services are worth. $100 per YEAR is such a non issue in business and spending an extra $90 on your domain does not make you rich / stupid / anything else. If I go buy a .com from someone for $500 everyone should charge me extra because I'm stupid? :1orglaugh




You said it, I didnt! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Dirty F 12-03-2011 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 18604039)
and am I supposed to deny them as clients?

Ive been contacted by a few .xxx for ads already. and hosted galleries too.

politics has no place in business in my opinion. This is capitalism.


You don't have clients.

Fletch XXX 12-03-2011 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18605028)
You don't have clients.

:1orglaugh

anyone who needs ads hit me up. 50% discount, just mention shemps thread.

http://www.getbannersmade.com :thumbsup


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