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Tony Soundview 12-05-2011 03:44 PM

The gov gives away free money, some just don't know how to get it. Had a client worth 10 million dollars on welfare, living on park avenue in Manhattan in a rent stabilized apartment. She just need to keep her annual income below 20k to qualify so we stayed away from dividends and bonds.

theking 12-05-2011 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 18608121)
They are here, too. To get extended disability benefits and things of that nature, you basically need to own 0 assets (there are a few exceptions.) Not sure how this couple was able to own that house and get benefits. My bet is the house is not in their name, or they "rent" from a rich family member or friend.

One can be on welfare (in most...if not all states) or SSI and own a home and one car...as far as I know the value of the home or car do not come into play. You cannot own other assets such as property...a boat...RV etc.

VIXEN ESCORTS 12-05-2011 03:50 PM

Oops sorry, I'll leave this thread, read the title and assumed it was UK ! :)

Rochard 12-05-2011 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 18608953)
Something up with that story. Can you get 10 years worth of welfare? Anyway, it sounds like they were wealthy before and are hiding money. Maybe undeclared international income. Maybe doing it to make it look like they're not making any money or to avoid paying taxes.

I was under the impression that you could get welfare for as long as you qualified.

The thing is once you qualify, if your able to live within you needs, there's never a reason to come off of welfare.

My buddy I mentioned above can go and get a job at any time he wants. But why bother? He's pulling in over $100k a year and hasn't worked in twenty years.

porno jew 12-05-2011 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18609070)
I was under the impression that you could get welfare for as long as you qualified.

The thing is once you qualify, if your able to live within you needs, there's never a reason to come off of welfare.

My buddy I mentioned above can go and get a job at any time he wants. But why bother? He's pulling in over $100k a year and hasn't worked in twenty years.

such bullshit. why are you such a retard?

Just Alex 12-05-2011 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18609070)
He's pulling in over $100k a year and hasn't worked in twenty years.

You are full of shit. :2 cents:

SuckOnThis 12-05-2011 04:13 PM

Moral of this thread: Don't be Rochards friend or you could end up nuts and dependent on the govt too.

Vendzilla 12-05-2011 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Failed (Post 18608314)
This happened to my grandmother about 3 years ago. I had to give her money to pay because they sent a bill for $900.00 at once and she's retired, limited income. First, I wanted a detailed explanation from the power company (it was an electric bill). They took an average monthly cost of the months they claimed it was broken from previous bills. They said my grandmother should of reported the reduced monthly electric bill because it was a sign of something wrong and that she was responsible.

I paid the bill, but I argued a bit and asked them, "what if I tell you she's been living with me for the past x amount of months and we shut the power off at the box?" They didn't have a response and I'm sure I could of fought it.

I looked at the meter and yeah, it's broken, but the bill has been close to the same it has always been , they have their head up their collective asses!

SuckOnThis 12-05-2011 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 18608283)
Just got hit by the DWP for $1200, because they said our meter has been broken for over a year. How do they know it's $1200 if the meter is broken and they told us this last month, but haven't replaced the meter yet?



Its a conspiracy to make right wingers help pay for people to smoke crack all day.

uno 12-05-2011 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18608264)
He was best man at my wedding. For the most part, he's not welcome in my house. He wasn't here for Thanksgiving, and I won't be exchanging Christmas gifts with him either. At this point I'm more friends with his family than him.



I just told you about my friend abusing the system. What more evidence do you need?



Yeah, that's a number I clearly pulled out of my ass.
It's just odd how I know a number of people on welfare, yet it seems tome that most of them are abusing the system. Maybe I need some friends with more class.

I have a friend of mine who has two teen boys, and it's more profitable for him not to work. He gets to live in Section Eight housing - which he claims isn't bad in his area - and gets money and food. Any money he makes on the side is just extra spending money.

My other friends were also on Welfare. He had a boat, a big truck, a brand new harley, ATVs, iPhones.... Yet he was on welfare.

Welfare needs to become a short term fix, not a way of life. Six months, and that's it. After that, you need to lean on you family or friends.

Is this the same guy who is constantly babbling about conspiracy theories?

Bryan G 12-05-2011 04:39 PM

Yup all folks that go on walfare are cheating the system. The amount of bullshit you sprew daily is unreal. Just like your threads about your mexican neighbours. You should post more about your awesome mustang.

Rochard 12-05-2011 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 18609162)
Yup all folks that go on walfare are cheating the system. The amount of bullshit you sprew daily is unreal. Just like your threads about your mexican neighbours. You should post more about your awesome mustang.

Pay attention. The Mexican family moved out. I sold all of my Mustangs.

What bullshit do you speak of? I found a news article about how someone on welfare lives in a million dollar house and talked about an old friend who is raping the system. It seems I know more people abusing the system than legitimately benefiting from it.

jimmy-3-way 12-05-2011 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18608264)
I have a friend of mine who has two teen boys, and it's more profitable for him not to work. He gets to live in Section Eight housing - which he claims isn't bad in his area - and gets money and food. Any money he makes on the side is just extra spending money.

Yeah I know this guy too. What a bastard. An Ol' Dirty Bastard.

I remember one time he was all bragging to us cos he picked up his welfare check in a LIMO!

Bryan G 12-05-2011 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18608128)
Your on crack.

I have a friend who is disabled. He has Hydrocephalus, more commonly known as "water on the brain". He's full retired from the US Army after two years, and fully retired from the US Post Office after working there for two years. He also gets state disability, and social security. He lives in a nice, brand new house, and drives around in a brand new huge truck. He worked four years of his life, two in the military and two at the post office as a fucking janitor, hasn't worked for twenty years, and pulls in over $100k a year - all because he "might get headaches".

For every one person who needs to be on welfare, there's a dozen people abusing it.

Nuff said. Just curious where you are pulling your stats from?? Or talking out your ass as usual??? So for everyone one person that needs it 12 are are abusing it?? Stats or shut the fuck up. Have you not been chased from most boards because of the retarded shit you post??

uno 12-05-2011 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way (Post 18609214)
Yeah I know this guy too. What a bastard. An Ol' Dirty Bastard.

I remember one time he was all bragging to us cos he picked up his welfare check in a LIMO!

RIP ODB(SBJ). :( Also RIP my ferret Molly that we had to euthanize on Saturday Night(2005-2011).

shade001 12-05-2011 05:10 PM

All you fucking communists should move to Russia, China, North Korea and report back in a few years on what a glorious paradise it is.

This isn't your little pond to piss in.

Dead 12-05-2011 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by uno (Post 18609229)
RIP ODB(SBJ). :( Also RIP my ferret Molly that we had to euthanize on Saturday Night(2005-2011).

Sorry to hear this about Molly, never met the ferret but have enjoyed her name for years! Rip I am sure she had many a good night, sucks to lose any friend, for me the furry ones hurt the worst.

Oh, and the whole sucking from the governments tit, bunch of babies that need to learn to feed themselves:321GFY

Rochard 12-05-2011 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 18609226)
Nuff said. Just curious where you are pulling your stats from?? Or talking out your ass as usual??? So for everyone one person that needs it 12 are are abusing it?? Stats or shut the fuck up. Have you not been chased from most boards because of the retarded shit you post??

So your okay with someone collecting welfare from the government while living in a million dollar house?

This is the best part:

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As if the million dollar home weren't enough, the supposedly low-income couple also gave money to various charities and traveled around the world to locales in Turkey, Tel Aviv and resort towns in Mexico, according to court records.
So they suck in money from the government, gave money to charities, and then traveled around the world? Can you not see what's wrong with this?

Dead 12-05-2011 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18609337)


So they suck in money from the government, gave money to charities, and then traveled around the world? Can you not see what's wrong with this?

That shit is criminal, and whats more, when those fucks may actually need govern,ent hand out, I hope they at least remember what they have done. Small circles in this world...

Bryan G 12-05-2011 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18609337)
So your okay with someone collecting welfare from the government while living in a million dollar house?

This is the best part:



So they suck in money from the government, gave money to charities, and then traveled around the world? Can you not see what's wrong with this?

Nope I'm not. I asked you where you pulled your stats from. You said for every 1 person that needs welfare there are 12 abusing it. So again where are you getting your numbers??

Caligari 12-05-2011 06:24 PM

There are quite a few people on welfare living in million dollar houses.

As a matter of fact they recieved some huge welfare checks around 2008 -2009.

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uno 12-05-2011 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dead (Post 18609327)
Sorry to hear this about Molly, never met the ferret but have enjoyed her name for years! Rip I am sure she had many a good night, sucks to lose any friend, for me the furry ones hurt the worst.

Oh, and the whole sucking from the governments tit, bunch of babies that need to learn to feed themselves:321GFY

She had degenerative bone cancer and lost the use of her lower back/back legs saturday night. We said if she ever got to where her quality of life diminished, we'd do the right thing and that was pretty much it. Since she's been going downhill the past 4 months we've taken her out for ice cream during that time. Poor thing was probably expecting a treat after the car ride rather than what she got. :(

*Edit: fuck it i'm starting a new thread. this shit has me depressed.

beemk 12-05-2011 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 18609226)
Or talking out your ass as usual???

And the rhetorical question of the day award goes to...

DaddyHalbucks 12-06-2011 12:55 AM

Just the tip of the iceberg.

:(

DaddyHalbucks 12-06-2011 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 18609162)
Yup all folks that go on walfare are cheating the system. The amount of bullshit you sprew daily is unreal. Just like your threads about your mexican neighbours. You should post more about your awesome mustang.

Not all folks.. maybe 40% are fraudsters. Nobody really knows, because the government doesn't care about rooting out the ginormous amount of fraud. These government welfare hacks thrive on ignorance. It's all fun money to them, a jobs program and a way to buy votes. There is a whole social work industry based on it, the "poverty pimps."

DWB 12-06-2011 01:43 AM

Good for them. They learned how to beat a system that was set up to beat them.

I hope they are able to get away with it AND continue to get paid.

the Shemp 12-06-2011 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 18609361)
There are quite a few people on welfare living in million dollar houses.

As a matter of fact they recieved some huge welfare checks around 2008 -2009.

.

corporate welfare bums ...

Just Alex 12-06-2011 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 18609107)
I looked at the meter and yeah, it's broken, but the bill has been close to the same it has always been , they have their head up their collective asses!

Obamacare. Blame it on Obama.

Caligari 12-06-2011 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by the Shemp (Post 18609950)
corporate welfare bums ...

Aye that they be, racking up far more welfare $$$ than the normal citizens on welfare could ever collectively get close to.

Not to say that typical welfare fraud isn't bad, but trotting out the "hey look at this welfare scammer living in a mansion" story to somehow make it seem like this is the real problem is a complete joke.

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Vendzilla 12-06-2011 08:26 AM

there are always going to be scammers of every system the government puts out there, in California it's real bad. when illegal aliens can collect it, with the other cost from city and county services costing LA county about a billion a year. All because LA is a sancutary city and California pays more for welfare than any other state I believe. I know we'll never get the problem taken care of because now LA county is over 50% latino.

But we'll just keep moving on spending the money for that instead of properly funding our schools, the schools here suck compared to other parts of the US

Cherry7 12-06-2011 08:43 AM

http://www.evanevanstours.co.uk/site...m-palace-3.jpg


We have the same problem in the UK. One family lives in this house paid by the taxpayer.

Vendzilla 12-06-2011 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 18610423)
http://www.evanevanstours.co.uk/site...m-palace-3.jpg


We have the same problem in the UK. One family lives in this house paid by the taxpayer.

Didn't I see something in the news that the royal family is going to start paying taxes?

_Richard_ 12-06-2011 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by shade001 (Post 18609233)
All you fucking communists should move to Russia, China, North Korea and report back in a few years on what a glorious paradise it is.

This isn't your little pond to piss in.

will north america be embracing the slave trade again? or simply revert to child labour etc

porno jew 12-06-2011 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 18610723)
Didn't I see something in the news that the royal family is going to start paying taxes?

over your head dum dum.

O MARINA 12-06-2011 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by shade001 (Post 18609233)
All you fucking communists should move to Russia, China, North Korea and report back in a few years on what a glorious paradise it is.



Best reply so far :thumbsup :thumbsup

directfiesta 12-06-2011 10:16 PM

Just a little update ....
 
SEATTLE -- A Seattle chiropractor and his wife live in a $1.2 million waterfront home and have spent the past eight years flying to Moscow, Paris, Israel, Turkey, Mexico and the Dominican Republic.

All the while, federal authorities say, the couple was collecting more than $100,000 in welfare.

Now, the U.S. attorney's office is suing David Silverstein and Lyudmila Shimonova, accusing them of filing false claims and demanding that the couple pay back more than $135,000 in federal housing assistance since 2003. Prosecutors are also seeking tens of thousands of dollars in fines.

In gaining Section 8 housing assistance, Shimonova represented that she lived alone with her two children and that her household assets were less than $5,000. Silverstein received the monthly benefits of $1,272 as Shimonova's purported landlord, the government said.

Shimonova also received benefits under the federal Temporary Assistance for Needy Families program, as well as Social Security cash reserved for people who can't work due to age or disability and whose assets fall below a certain threshold ? $3,000 for a married couple or $2,000 for a single person, the complaint said.

"Defendants have separately and, it appears, in conjunction with one another made false representations to various state and federal agencies in order to obtain federally funded benefits," assistant U.S. attorneys Harold Malkin and Kayla Stahman wrote.

Meanwhile, they were traveling the world, according to Department of Homeland Security records.

Michael Radyshewsky, a federal welfare fraud investigator, wrote in an application to search the couple's home that they took weeklong trips to Moscow in 2003, Dominican Republic in 2005, and Mexico and France in 2009. In 2007, they went for 12 days to Israel, and this past June they took a two-week trip to Turkey.

Silverstein said Tuesday his lawyer asked him not to comment, and his lawyer, David Allen, did not immediately return a message. The home did not appear to have a listed phone number, and Shimonova's lawyer, Michele Shaw, did not return an email seeking comment.

The investigation included surveillance of the three-bedroom, 2,300-square-foot home on Lake Washington, during which agents observed his black Jaguar parked there frequently.

Though Shimonova had claimed she was single and lived there alone, Silverstein listed it as his residence on his driver's license and passport application, the prosecutors said.

But in documents filed so that he could receive the housing assistance, he listed his office as his residence to conceal that he was living with Shimonova ? not her landlord, they said.

Furthermore, it appeared clear that the pair was actually married. Silverstein wrote on the website of his chiropractic business: "On a personal note, I am happily married with two children, whose careers are in medicine and Middle Eastern studies. As a family, we all enjoy snow-shoeing, mountain climbing and ocean sports."


A report of the Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle for the 2010 fiscal year listed "Mila and Dr. David Silverstein" as donors.

In addition to failing to disclose the marriage or living situation, Shimonova also failed to disclose bank accounts in her name containing tens of thousands of dollars, prosecutors said.

The lawsuit seeks to have the couple pay $11,000 in fines for each false claim the couple made. The U.S. attorney's office declined to comment on whether criminal charges are forthcoming.

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/ap/welfa...0;380;7;70.jpg

Just Alex 12-06-2011 10:55 PM

Conspiracy against Jews again. Racist bastards!

uno 12-06-2011 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 18610730)
will north america be embracing the slave trade again? or simply revert to child labour etc

Ask and ye' shall receive.

https://www.google.com/search?q=dona...w=1320&bih=670

That was like some The Secret shit right there.

Barry-xlovecam 12-06-2011 11:41 PM

Talk about cherry picking ...


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ottopottomouse 12-07-2011 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 18610723)
Didn't I see something in the news that the royal family is going to start paying taxes?

They already do.


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