The Royal Family costs the tax payer more than 200 million pounds.

They are one of the richest families in the country owning vasts tracts of lands...

This family is the centerer of a "Culture of Entitlement" where a whole group of people, the richest 5%, feel they have the right to

The best eduction in private school

The best universities Oxford and Cambridge which then give them the best jobs

The best private health care

the best housing

etc...

How is this for a step in thee right direction that maybe everyone can agree on - how about saying the tax payers aren't going to send you a check while you're a fugitive? When I was bounty hunting a good way to find a fugitive was to show up when they came in for public assistance.

That seems like it should be a no brainer and implemented already. Yes, if you are on the run for being convicted in a court of law for a crime(s), you should not be able to receive any social services. This comes from a guy who wants to see everyone have a free education, medical care, and the means to live if unemployed or disabled. I can't believe that's even allowed to happen!

And here is the other end of the extreme that was made in the original post:

http://news.yahoo.com/state-mom-shot...204249288.html

Not knowing much about the American system - Canada has an extremely tight welfare system and each year seem to be adding more security standards to avoid this. Is it perfect? No - but they are catching more fraud and bogus accounts. All government systems are being tied together so welfare can verify accurate information such as housing - cars - medical - income with one click authorized verification system.

The system is needed for those that in extreme circumstances that have no other choices - but partial blame needs to be given to the government for not checking the honesty of their citizens since the government is being held accountable for the monies given to them by taxpayers.

Don't get me wrong here, but there are people who abuse the system and and people who neglect the system.

But in this case this I think this woman was just completely nuts. Seems to me she filed the paperwork to start the welfare, it was incomplete, and when they tried to contact her they were unable to, and she missed a number of appointments they had set up to meet with her. Seems to be a case of she filed the paperwork but failed to follow through on anything, and then went nuts and shot her kids and killed herself. Sorry, you don't kill our kids because you couldn't get welfare - you kill your kids because your a nut job.

At the same time... In that article it says the application for welfare is eighteen pages long? Really? I'm guessing that the people who need the welfare the most are not the brightest people in the world, and trying to get them to fill out eighteen pages of paperwork is difficult at best...

I think you'll find a lot of the people who need it are mentally not capable of filling out 18 pages of application questions, I agree. I also think even the average person would have trouble filling out an 18 page government application.

Then, you have the people like in your original post, and the friend you mentioned, who are smart enough to get over on the system but don't deserve the benefits.

This is the type of abuse that needs to be stopped. Both abuse of the system, and abuse of those who should receive benefits but are denied for the reasons above.

The woman mentioned in my link obviously had mental issues, whether they were constant or just a result of the stress and frustration of not being able to feed her kids, who knows. Maybe that's why she did it? She figured that it's better to kill all 3 of them fast with a bullet rather than starve to death...who knows.

We should all try that:)

Not whining about "small time welfare crooks", but whining about one single small time welfare crook. All these little crooks add up. If the people mentioned in this article sold their home for a million bucks and gave up their trips abroad, they could have a half-decent welfare-free life somewhere else.

Between the big thieves and the little thieves, it all adds up.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Greed....

being from seattle and knowing a few people that have houses on the water i will fill in something that this article doesnt cover.

some parts of the lake were developed almost a hundred years ago, when it wasn't a desirable place to live. some of these houses are in terrible states of disrepair but are still valued well into the millions because the land values have gone up thousands of percent over the last few decades. without knowing more about the house, its really hard to get behind the people bashing these people.

some clearly not as sly older people on the lake have lost their homes after being forced out by exorbitant properties taxs, because the rich wanted their lake front land.

there are people that cant even fill out a single page 1040EZ without help.

post # 76 shows the house ... not too shaby .... lol

my thoughts as well

UPDATE :Feds inspected welfare couple's $1 million home 9 times
 

Feds inspected welfare couple's $1 million home 9 times

... people on the take ????

jews....

Holy shit yeah they did that to me on 3 properties as well. About 4k they supposedly didn't bill me for over the last year and a half.