Pridebucks Steve hooks up some insane emails, I can only imagine how his stuff converts. If only I loved the c0ck.. .

Please don't reply to my comments; you can't be trusted. Me and 199 other webmasters are now blacklisting you.

Shit, was gonna promote Bryci on a crossdressing website of mine but after reading this I won't.

I can put you in touch with one step above Steve, who I believe has moved on from the company. They will put tools in your hands (sigh, no pun, LOL) that will blow you away. They spit out some shit directly from their database for me.

They're all tremendous human beings, too.

I fully respect gay porn but until I hire a homosex that branch will have to be largely on hold.

It's difficult to "get" the gay market as a straight man -- that's very true. I lean on the PrideBucks guys a LOT to tell me what will and won't work. If you can send volume, they will work with you, believe me .. even if you only send 10 signups/day, they treat you like you send 100.

James @ BellaCash [email protected]
12:47 AM (30 minutes ago)

to me
Let me see if I follow this right.

You sign up to promote my program without reading the terms of service.

You promote the program incorrectly and Steve emails you telling you to basically fix things or get your account shut off. He didn't shut it off or suspend you, he told you to fix things or else.

You were saying on your page, join Bryci's site to download hardcore videos and photos, which is false. This leads to charge backs.

You reply telling him to fuck off.

He terminates the account.

You reply with a 'you mad' comment.

He replies saying you're unprofessional and he's passing on word to others about how you're not a good person to work with.

You retaliate by creating a gfy thread, trying to hurt Bella Cash and Bryci's image with these images because you're trying to save your own reputation.

If Steve had created a thread as you did attempting to hurt you, I understand you having issue with Steve. Why you'd go out of your way to hurt Bryci though, I have no idea.

Did I miss anything? I just want to be clear on this.

Remove these immediately

http://alientrollscience.com/bryci_hardcore_fucked.jpg
http://alientrollscience.com/bryci_hardcore_blowjob.jpg
http://alientrollscience.com/bryci_loves_cock.jpg
http://porncorporation.com/wp-conten...n_you_join.jpg
http://porncorporation.com/wp-conten...1/12/bryci.jpg
http://porncorporation.com/wp-conten...sturbation.jpg
http://porncorporation.com/wp-conten...stmas_porn.jpg
http://porncorporation.com/wp-conten...y_lingerie.jpg
http://porncorporation.com/wp-conten...sturbating.jpg
http://porncorporation.com/wp-conten...dildo_porn.jpg
http://porncorporation.com/wp-conten...ation_porn.jpg
http://porncorporation.com/wp-conten...r_pictures.jpg
http://porncorporation.com/wp-conten...dildo_slut.jpg
http://porncorporation.com/wp-conten...sturbation.jpg
http://porncorporation.com/wp-conten...striptease.jpg
http://porncorporation.com/wp-conten...slut_bryci.jpg
http://porncorporation.com/wp-conten...e_pornstar.jpg
http://porncorporation.com/wp-conten...mas_photos.jpg
http://porncorporation.com/wp-conten...mas_photos.jpg
http://porncorporation.com/wp-conten...liday_pics.jpg

In future, you might consider communicating better or at the very least, reading the aup for sites you promote.

If you'd like to do this legally, I am more then happy to. If you want to handle this as adults, we can do that too.


[email protected]
1:16 AM (1 minute ago)

to james
If you do not want these matters to be public then why would you [or someone from your program] send the information to 200 webmasters?

"I've now passed on your name/info to over 200 webmasters/program owners I know in the biz so they know how professional you are. Good luck with your future in the biz."

I'm surprised nobody commented on the first pics of first post...

That clearly is why the dude is now pissed. The thing is though... this won't hurt his program, probably get him a few more affiliates.

Maybe hurt his ego seeing... well, you know...

hotlinked from a bryci gallery. not a pornstar? ROFL sorry never seen a "model" do this....

http://www.bellagals.com/bryci/080-kitty/14.jpg

Penis envy?

What is James' definition of *pornstar* then?

Pornstar = chic who takes her clothes off for money - varying degrees of what she will then do with no clothing on, yet still a pornstar.

LOL speaking of Bryci, check what was in the mail today!! A 2012 calendar with all kinds of personal messages on it ;)))

http://hostones.com/temp/Roald/bryci.jpg

Just to make clear, I too think James is a bit too protective on the site(s). However since it IS converting pretty well we are more than willing to work with him.

The Appletwins on the other hand....lmao

:thumbsup

its called cheating your customers

wow, good to know. what a fucking shitheads, hey bella say hello to your fucking pornstar whores, you motherfucking bitch! saying to your money making affiliate that you will shutdown his account, you fucking asshole go and burn yourself in hell fuckhead, shit on you bitch!

Yeah man, Eastern Euro fury dude. Good luck with your sites my br0ther.

Yeah bitch, shit on you

:1orglaugh yeah lol. but seriously, taking someones hosting down ... oh bella retard, wake the fuck up!

While I think you are a great webmaster, Alias, your treatment of the situation makes me wonder about your character.

First - You misrepresented the model and her members area in direct violation of their terms that they have written all over the place.

Second - You could have changed 2 sentences and fallen under compliance.

Third - You acted like a 4th grader that just learned how to cuss.

The only character assassination here is that of your own work.

still, "i will take your hosting down", fuck off bellacash pornstar! if he have teen pornstar traffic and not teen newcommer traffic, better sales with pornstar term ... fuck off, bellacash

While I get the whole "don't advertise us as hardcore when we're only offering softcore content" argument, the idea that someone would get pissed off if you refer to them as "pornstars" when they make money by posing for pictures of a pornographic nature is insane.

Cool pics. Signed up to promote them.

finaly me too, needed some fresh content for my scat tgp

This is NOT how to treat affiliates! Threatening to terminate accounts

This isn't the first time I've read a multi page thread of James treating his affiliates like shit and creating unnecessary drama :disgust

Alias my advice, delete the content and promote someone else. There are more professional people to work with in this industry :pimp

:321gfy:321gfy:321gfy

Cropped watermarks = immediate termination

Are there any program owners here without such a clause in their AUP/TOS?

All images and references to the models have been removed as requested. Wouldn't want to mislead surfers that these girls nude and kissing each other are involved in porn or lesbianism.

lol girls nude and kissing each other on the internet is considered mainstream now

She is, actually.

He also clearly states in the promo area how to NOT promote the girls (ie: referring to them as pornstars).

However his correspondence with you was anything but professional (though yours wasn't very professional either) but as a person who is running a business he should have still held back from talking the way he did.

I can stand on both sides of the fence on this one. They have terms like any other program does, though theirs are obviously a little more intense. I do know that if I were you I would no longer promote their program AT ALL, considering his tone and lack of professionalism.

I have seen him go off on others in the past also. You would think if he had any business sense he would take a different approach at things.

:2 cents:

So how did he respond to that? I would say that warrants making the thread. I can't stand sponsors who are so anal about how they are promoted. I don't have time to read a bunch of rules. I just want to pump out the pages and move on to the next. If sponsors can't give affiliates some room to move around in terms of promotion, they can go fuck themselves. Lots of others out there who don't care.

A rose by any other name...

She's a pornstar. Period. His model, his rules though. The way he handled it makes him look like an unprofessional kid. I won't deal with him...or maybe I will just to get a rise out of him.

No reply to me on that. I thought the post was flattering and in good taste though. We have a lot of models and programs re-tweet our stuff because they happen to like the presentation.

In this case the model in question had an issue, shit happens.

You can't please everyone all the time.

haha batshit crazy

AB peeps

what can you do

LMAO! I was not aware of her past before.

That page on Encyclopedia Dramatica is pretty comical.

If my GF was oozing white cream when I fucked her, I'd have her checked out. :2 cents:

you should be referring to her as a dirty fucking whore on your sites, pornstars actually make money.

That he's in a relationship with the model concerns me more than the unprofessional demeanor alone. It tells me that when the relationship goes south, so does the web site. :helpme

bingo! Bingo!

The ones that actually understand how affiliate marketing works don't give a shit unless it's truly out of hand... There's been plenty of discussions on this board about affiliates cropping pics/thumbs for their blog posts in order to create the most enticing image they can... Usually the program owner finally "gets it" and changes their TOS.... But the majority of those that run these programs don't have a fucking clue about real promotion and what affiliates do.... So they put in stupid shit and loose traffic and sales because of it.

So??? Why do so many people in this business not even understand it.. The guys out there searching for a porn chick, jerking off to her, becoming "obsessed" about her and a big fan, don't give a shit if she changes names and sites 50 times.. They just want more content of HER.. They want to see the couple hardcore sets of some chick that comes off as all innocent.. They want to suck up every bit of content about HER... The porn guys sit on forums sharing all the info they can on a girl, sharing all the pics they find. They know she's done hardcore and that content is shared among them and links to her latest site is posted as well. Too many ppl in this biz operate in some sort of mental bubble.

Never, ever, ever, never, EVER date a nude model, pornstar, escort, stripper or cam girl.

When the relationship goes south , any hardcore pics he has of her will be.......... posted to over 200 ex gf sites..... by that twat.

I reckon that's how that control freak would react, going by the emails posted alone.

Very true... But then she'll more than likely end up doing hardcore which will mean more sales for any new site.. That's usually how it goes... :1orglaugh

^^ all of this

I agree with all of these except cam girl and nude model (no-hardcore).

If they aren't taking dick for cash, I will date them. Why the fuck not.

All women are capable of being unfaithful whores, regardless of profession.

EDIT: I wont date strippers either lol

So..... what does a bunch of obsessed stalker-like fanboys sharing all of her personas and pictures have to do with how an affiliate markets her current site and persona? Those fans will figure it out and find her pics regardless of if an affiliate acknowledges her past personas or not. And for all those "porn guys" who know all the different names she's been under and trading her pics, there's a bunch of new fans just being exposed to her for the first time through the affiliate's marketing. Those new fans may not even want to know that Bryci once did hardcore as Tia. Yet you feel that since some people know about it, we should just consider it that everyone does. So since some 8 year olds know Santa doesn't exist, we might as well just assume all 8 year olds know he's made-up. Fuck any fantasy or illusion they may have preferred to hold on to (either by choice or ignorance---that's irrelevant).

On top of that, you seem to feel that since "everyone" knows she once worked as "alias A" and now is "alias B," it should be perfectly acceptable to reference "alias A" and even its content when promoting "alias B." So a girl performs for Company A as Slut. She performs for Company B as Whore. So you think that its ok to promote Whore using Slut's content? So we should feel no qualms in using the content that Company A owns to send traffic and revenue to Company B?

Seems to me like you're the one living in a mental bubble. :2 cents:

Agreed. 100%.

It's not like the rules are buried deep in a ridiculous T&C. They are made clear to affiliates immediately upon signing up for the program. Not to mention the fact that outside of this security blanket of thread, many people, including myself, are likely to view such rules as being indicative of a stand-up, quality program. Maybe they're a little too protective as Roald said, but I'll take that all day over a program that seems a little too lax.

Anyway, sorry to interrupt. Enjoy the rest of your group thumbsuck.:thumbsup

Here are the issues:

Affiliate went out of his way to promote a program.

Program owner sent from a "legal" address to sound threatening. Threats continued and the "vibe" of the language read to me...

This program will be a massive pain in the ass going forward. Likely will keep a majority of the funds for some small, irrelevant reason.

Affiliate said "go fuck yourself".

The rest you know... By the way, this board is called "go fuck yourself".

Sorry,

I agree with ALIAS here.

The guys initial letter sounded incredibly bush league to me, and very unprofessional.

At that point, Alias responded correctly to threats made out of nowhere via..

GO FUCK YOURSELF.

Perfect response in my humble opinion.

An affiliate's role is to promote programs. So why is this one special that he was "going out of his way?"

As for the rest of this, those of us showing understand of the program's side regarding the performer's persona and previously used ones, as well as the nature of her current content versus past content....I know I don't, and I don't think any of the others are agreeing with the way the program handled the issue. No one here is defending the "threatening legal address" tactic, nor any of the other things the sponsor did (contacting 200 other webmasters, etc.). We're just saying there's logical reason for the sponsor not wanting the model's new persona (which is softcore) being promoted using anything that might reference her past personas and content (obviously hardcore).

Again, I don't think anyone is defending the unprofessional way the sponsor handled the issue. We're merely addressing the core issue itself.