this thread proves america is doomed.

Many things prove america faces problems on a scale we've never seen or imagined before. We are well and truly fucked.

But your comment is unhelpful. You should demonstrate the courage of your convictions and say why you think this thread in particular proves anything.

obama being hard left? He is just another puppet, just like bush was. What really changed aside from some ignorable small things the people don't even notice in everyday life? Nothing, this administration is exactly the same as the administration when bush was their puppet. They keep on pushing the war -> power agenda and keep making personal freedoms for their own people smaller and smaller, doesn't really sound hard left to me. Don't forget, all of a sudden ghadaffi was an enemy, and had to be removed to have another country under control of US administration: this all happened under the so called 'left' obama. It's all the same.

This is funny - republican girl cries after reading lines about israel in a ron paul book.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/watch...for-christmas/

Apparently she gets really mad and sad reading that paul considers israel an 'apartheid state".

Crazy that there are such people, that reading such a thing is so offensive.

succesful brainwashing at work, exactly like the north koreans crying in rows when kim jong il died. This is exactly the same.

I wasn't sure I really got the point of it as propaganda, tho it does have that feel.

Is it supposed to show that republicans cry a lot? Or that girls cry a lot? That republicans are like girls?

Or, that republicans love israel? Some of my old military/militia buddies will get a chuckle out of that.

porno_jew has no courage, or convictions :upsidedow

It's common for people to say such things about other people with who they disagree politically or socially.

We've already figured out you and pj disagree about ron paul.

Just like safetynet/bignusines dems outnumber hard progressive dems on my side, leaving hard progressives like me out in the cold; on your side anti-safety/bigbusiness republicans outnumber libertarian-influenced paulian republicans. Sorry, you also are going to be left out in the cold.

For starters, I am not a Republican. Secondly I don't say that about porno_jew simply because he disagrees with me. I said it because he is a disgusting excuse for a human being. Lastly, it's not me that's going to be left out in the cold. I have eyes and can see, unlike the majority of ill informed people on GFY and America in general, so I have already left the US. You guys are the ones getting yourself and your wives and kids molested at airports by pedo's, now at NFL games, shopping malls, etc. so have fun with that. Actually, I see cuckolding is becoming to be a bigger and bigger fetish niche these days so maybe you guys actually do get off on it, who knows- :1orglaugh

Well, I dont fly or go to big public events, so all this security theatre has little effect on my life. It sucks to be them, american normals, but, they seem to like that kind of thing, they were all scared, now they pay the price, it's no skin off my nose.

Thing is, you are debating with the wrong people, the people you need to convince aren't the pornojews, who doesn't seem immediately like a republican type, altho who knows - you need to be talking to the hardcore republicans, and be effective at convincing them.

I was reading an article about santorum's sudden jump - all the evangelicals and american taliban are suddenly flocking to him - reading why they support him was just jawdropping, it amazes me that the republican party embraces that kind of hatred for faggots - but it sure is funny to see santorum start to seize center stage with his anti-anal-sex message.

Good luck with that...

keep telling yourself that...

You pick an odd subject to respond to and emphasize.

Like I said, you need to be talking to the republicans, and refining your message to them. Bitching at people like me is a waste of your time.

http://www.truth-out.org/if-ron-paul...ory/1325514942

I was not bitching at you, I was simply saying good luck with your perceived isolation from the system

http://greatwonder.files.wordpress.c...7/misscleo.jpg

miss cleo :pimp

Damn, this thread is full of super genius guys who sit back on a mountain top and are unaffected by the events in the lives of us poor normal folk who are just sheep.

It's kinda like sitting at the feet of the wise old masters like a bad episode of "Kung Fu" heh-heh

Yeah, that actually does describe me pretty well, except for the super-genius part. I'm at best smarter than average. I do live in the hills. I'm not normal.

If getting patted down and molested at the airport bothers you, I hope you take action about it. If you go to nfl games, well dude, I got nothin, I figure you are just fucked.

So, would you vote for Paul, if he pulls off a republican miracle and wins the nod?

Hell yeah I'd vote for Paul.

As far as airport TSA goes...it's a miracle I haven't been thrown in prison already. My wife DREADS going on a flight with me because I give them HELL. Same when a cop pulls me over and starts ordering me about like a child.

It just sets my temper off badly.

My wife has had to get used to the idea that I don't want to fly. Luckily, there's plenty to do without flying.

Like I said, I'd vote for paul too. Sadly, I don't think the paul supporters are effectively organized and messaged, and, well, the corporations won't allow it, your mainstream bigbusiness republicans and the professional republican class won't allow it, so that's pretty much that.

My side is stuck with that buttlicker obama, so you can take some comfort in that.

lol, gadfly greenwald comments on the irony...

http://www.salon.com/2011/12/31/prog...gleton/?mid=56

Bunch of fucking RACISTS in this thread.
Won't vote for Ron Paul because he's white.
You people disgust me.

fuck whitey

I find it fascinating that with 150 votes cast and Ron Paul beating Obama 2 to 1 that virtually no one has even commented on it. The silence speaks volumes-

So are we gonna start a "pornographers for Paul" site?

Drudge is having a poll and Ron Paul is winning. I just voted.

http://drudgereport.com/

this is a more enlightening read.

http://ww4report.com/node/10685

Interesting way to put it as I think that is basically the same thing Obama preached.

Then he like all the others and most likely like Paul will do allowed the politician in him to get out and get paid.

Really? I didn't see anything in your piece that particularly interested or impressed me. In fact, it embarrassed me - why are supposed progressives writing like hysterical women about something that doesn't matter?

It ignores greenwalds point, which is that it's embarrassing that a rightwinger is the only one propounding an end to the drug wars and an end to the empire.

I could care less if paul is racist, hates pussy, and has his tongue so far up corporate ass he can taste the filet mignon - it's silly to worry about that, the professional republicans can't allow him the nomination, he can't become president, and if he did, he couldn't actually do anything he says he would do.

It's childish to believe otherwise.

It's the philosophical and moral dimensions of his presence in the race that are interesting.

You are wasting your time worrying about his candidacy, but it wouldn't be a waste of your time to wonder what would happen to a liberal candidate that also said we should end the wars.

And who meant it, unlike that corporate rimmer obama, who lied like the fucking sack of corporate buttboy shit he is.

In case you are confused about this, PJ, paul is a republican, which means, by definition, he's racist, sexist, and never met a corporation or a billionaire whose dick he didn't want to suck.

This is a given, an absolute. Wether or not paul is a racist sexist corporate buttboy is NOT IN DEBATE.

He is, we all know he is, everyone knows he is, especially the republican voters know he is. That's what makes him a republican, and eligible to be a republican candidate. Thats why republicans like him, allow him to exist, and dont want to kick him to death.

None of this debate is about wether paul is a decent guy, he wants to be president, he's a fucking monster.

Ron Paul would rather be drinking a beer on the back porch than doing this. He's 76.

So you have zero say in the Republican voting process. Actually, reading on, it seems you have no say. You officially do not matter. Seriously, you don't. :2 cents:

No way am I voting for another Texan.

Because it does not matter . . . kind of like you. Paul will never be the nominee against Obama. What do the results say? GFY is not the USA. It has people like you, that do not matter, voting. Sorry.

Age only mattered when it was McCain. Besides, Sticky Green said he would be dead and that it did not matter if he won, it was the message that was important. Whatever that is.

If Ron Paul picked a batshit crazy buffoon for a running mate I think you'd see a lot more people start worrying about his age :2 cents:

Liked this poster.

:thumbsup

http://www.chrisroubis.com/wp-conten...a_ron-paul.jpg

Well, that brings up the question I have been asking for a few weeks now. Who should he choose that people would not be concerned and would follow his platform?

And GFY worried about his age long before Palin. :2 cents:

He needs to choose someone that has similar beliefs but also is more in tune with the people who refuse to consider Ron Paul. For the win.

kill whitey

That's a damn good question and I haven't studied this enough to offer any suggestions.

I do remember how Ross Perot hurt himself immensely with his selection of Stockdale and I can see this as a huge challenge for Paul.

My guess is it'll end up being some squeaky clean CEO who most of us have never heard of.

Ron Paul came in 3rd in Iowa among the Republicans, so it looks like Obama's safe... :upsidedow

ADG

ya think? :upsidedow so who would that be?

I liked Stockdale. I think he got a bad rap. The only suggestion I recall hearing is Jesse Ventura. The scary thing is that I think these people are serious. The only reason he won the election to be governor in the first place was that he promised to split the state's excess monies among the citizens, so they all got a couple hundred dollars instead of using the money for something that would help everyone.


Obama has been safe ever since I failed to seek the nomination. The Republicans have no one that can beat him.

I have no idea. But it makes sense to me heh. There are a lot of topics that he's vaguely discussed and people get the wrong impression from the little he's said about it and think he's totally for something that is against their views and it's all just a misunderstanding. I'm sure there is someone he could choose that these people are more familiar with and would make him more understanding to people opposing him.

If Paul wins the nomination and then pick Ventura for his running mate, then I will have no one to vote for with confidence. I would simply be voting against Obama and all other incumbents. I really hope he would make a better selection.