I don't recall saying or implying anything like that.

they will always pay for webcam, quality will only get better.

I have been trying for years now and it's not picking up as i wanted too. I don't trust the tracking system of the phone sponsors. Not that they deliberately shave, but it's so easy to loose a sale. :Oh crap

I hear VHS is making a comeback too

lol:1orglaugh

No but it will be like 2008 for awhile.

The torrent sites should be stopped too, and I not mean just thepiratebay. Everyone see the million viewers of xvideos and xhamster, or even of filesonic's and oron's from Alexa and advertising networks who sell impressions there. But there's increasing million people using torrent you can't measure or track as its p2p, and even if ISPs to try filter out torrent traffic per government request, there's slower speed solution that would be adopted if fast traffic is filtered out, such as freenet or else:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_P2P

Don't forget if you go in a street market in places such as Kiev you find for sale DVD's with site rips of anything from met-art to hustler, for a dollar, and anyone can put these in filesharing the same day all the sites are shut down, reaching quickly USA, Australia and west europe where credit card owners live.

So with many busts we can go back 2009 each time, but never 1999... at the time people was paying well for shareware, I was into doing utilities put for $20 for sale and selling so many - there was not yet free opensource software for do everything - it happened the same for software, just it is legal those kids made free-everything softwares.

Even cam shows (only the models who wish, not all) are free now, and that's live, so no more 1999 for cams too. Still people like to pay for "something", find what they pay for and give up if you sell what they no more pay for, easy as 1-2-3.

Some things never change... :)

You did say.

Did you not? :winkwink:

The migration to paying for pre recorded porn to getting it for free has been a continual migration that has grown over the last 15 years, from a trickle to a flood. The income from pre recorded porn is a shadow of what it was. In time the only major art of the business will be webcams, even dating will move over to the free model. I doubt if it will take as long as the demise of porn.

Webcams will never ever replace the income of what the porn industry used to make. Yes the quality will get better, the income will never rival the income of the mainstay of the porn industry, online and offline.

No and here's the proof.

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1056240

fuck no.... lol

Who the fuck is "they"?

Too many whingers moping around in their own self-pity and laziness hoping for "them" to do something.

You make your own way in life, fag. If anything "they" should start handing out free DVDs on the streets. :321GFY

Yes, better in my opinion.

Tubes are daily life for many, habitual, so if non-promotional content was not available anywhere except a members area then sales would be like never witnessed before.

The generation who are now hooked on porn thanks to tubes and other illegal sharing will have no issue shelling out their disposable income on a few paysite memberships a month.

I remember the days they blamed galleries with 3 movieclips with 20 second movies.
Heck I remember the days when giving away 20 pictures was giving away the cow according to many.

Heh, at one time a promo was a couple of pics with the genitalia blacked out. Now a promo is a 30-minute full hardcore video.

THIS IS KILLING THE BUSINESS!

- Paul Markham, 1988

Well I got off, not buying any memberships now.

The only way it could be 1999 again is if Al Gore were running for President.

I meant traffic in general costs money. Whether its good or bad traffic is their problem they will have to dish out $$$ for it and the golden days of safe "file sharing" are over. Their investment will be futile being that as soon as they grow enough to offer a "quality pirate experience" they will be shut down. My point was that if new pirate sites pop up it wont be free. Building up a profitable # of visitors will become harder and harder and riskier and riskier. Their business model is basically over. It's all downhill form now.

I don't agree that culture plays a role. I really know what I'm talking about I used to pirate until 99 when they outlawed it in my country. 6 shops 18 workers, pirate paradise. But they passed a law, kicked some ass, and the "culture" changed. People need games or utilities regardless of whether they have to pay for them or not. You would not believe the 180 degree turn. For fucks sake I went and actually purchased a few original games myself for my PS2 and PS3 I have maybe 30 original CDs/DVDs

NO doubt in my mind that if my 3rd world shit hole changed its culture in a few days that the same can easily happen online. It will happen the MOMENT when finding quality pirate stuff becomes a pain in the ass. Will be de ja vu as far as I'm concerned.


Agree totally. Quality content is rare in porn. Only a few people are capable of even understanding what a quality shot is, let alone produce one. Mediocre content is abundant but quality will always make money IMO

it would be nice if it is 1975 again :)

1999?...I'll take 2007

same here, or even better 2008 :thumbsup

Back when shemales looked like a buffed up Rodney Dangerfield with long hair? Funny thing, that wouldn't sell for shit back then but these days, some 45yo construction worker in a wig & bra jamming a 22 inch jelly dildo up his hairy ass on Streamate will make major bank. :1orglaugh

How can I really want to unsee something that was only written? And yet it has happened.

True. The ability to create Playboy/Penthouse end porn photographically is usually reserved for people outside porn. Porn simply never paid enough to entice these people. Then if they know the photography end, there's still the model and porn end. NO online only shooter has ever reached that level and if he did, he's a fool for only working online. Odds are he wouldn't of had the training from online work.

If people have to pay then they will change. Factor in all the free porn online and they don't have to pay and don't have to change their culture.

If porn could be banned from the Internet, the online pornographers who can make the switch will be so happy. 10,000 of traffic pushers will not be. :1orglaugh

And this is why the great days will never come back.

And instead of stopping at that, we escalated the problem and proved the problem was giving it away for free. Good post.

who you think will shut down adult tube? maybe some gay producents are active as far i know, all the shutting down affects mainstream sharing sites, nobody care about and in ill porn business :2 cents:

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

More like 2008...

World's government, Illuminati, French Silhouette, Mashad and other political secret crews will not allow it.

Look back to the days of Napster. You could d/l everything easily and quickly. I've grown accustomed to pirating everything I wanted.

Then Napster got shot down, torrent sites became fragmented and PIA to deal with.

Today, I'm not 18yo kid with 0 disposable income. I don't mind paying a few bucks to save myself the hassle. This is why people use Itunes, Netflix, Amazon streams - we don't feel like dicking around the web searching for stuff, going through 5 popunders, only to be told we need to install a 'plugin' and fucking up our computers.

I think porn will have similar progression. But more personal content like cams is succeeding quite well and girls are selling their own movies/etc. Money is being made. It's just not being made my generic old methods.