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sadiedazzle 03-21-2012 10:10 PM

A bunch of my videos showed up on tube sites, over and over again by a former paying site member. I also noticed that he was posting other sites videos in the same way. I contacted a few of them and they all told me that he was an affiliate of theirs (he's no affiliate of mine) and they allowed him to take their videos, recut them and put his own url on them. These sites (big cash programs) told me that they thought it was good business to get exposure on the tube sites. Some of these sites had 100's of videos about 7 minutes long on tube sites. I personally don't think that tube sites are good for business. Unless there is a click through people just won't take the time to type in a url. Tube sites are bad for business.

dgraves 03-21-2012 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by sadiedazzle (Post 18837824)
A bunch of my videos showed up on tube sites, over and over again by a former paying site member. I also noticed that he was posting other sites videos in the same way. I contacted a few of them and they all told me that he was an affiliate of theirs (he's no affiliate of mine) and they allowed him to take their videos, recut them and put his own url on them. These sites (big cash programs) told me that they thought it was good business to get exposure on the tube sites. Some of these sites had 100's of videos about 7 minutes long on tube sites. I personally don't think that tube sites are good for business. Unless there is a click through people just won't take the time to type in a url. Tube sites are bad for business.

i think tubes sites can a great way for affiliates to promote many different niches if done properly, similar to TGP/MGP with samples and teasers. i don't care if they buy content and want to devalue it by putting up full length videos because that's their choice. i'd even be up for donating a few full clips if they put up an affiliate link to my site and did it properly.

the illegal tubes have absolutely no regard for content producers and are not interested in supporting the very industry that is making them money. they are leaches who hide behind legal loop holes.

Joe Obenberger 03-21-2012 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 18837803)
what does this perfect DMCA notice look like?

Larry's got some automated process up on his site, firstamendment.com, and though I've never run through it, considering the source, I'll bet it's quite good.

But the problem is not so much the template or form, anyway, its the specificity with which you identify the name of the work and the filename - sometimes different - and the specificity with which you identify the location where it is published. It's hard to be perfect in respect to many things in life, but it's not so hard to prepare a perfect DMCA Notice. As I recall, the statute even cuts some slack somewhere for huge and repetetive listings, but don't count on that till you look at the exact text.

dgraves 03-21-2012 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Obenberger (Post 18837874)
Larry's got some automated process up on his site, firstamendment.com, and though I've never run through it, considering the source, I'll bet it's quite good.

But the problem is not so much the template or form, anyway, its the specificity with which you identify the name of the work and the filename - sometimes different - and the specificity with which you identify the location where it is published. It's hard to be perfect in respect to many things in life, but it's not so hard to prepare a perfect DMCA Notice. As I recall, the statute even cuts some slack somewhere for huge and repetetive listings, but don't count on that till you look at the exact text.

nice work! thanks

DEWEZ 03-22-2012 09:11 AM

Total BS
 
I own motherless.com and i know how much time and effort goes into removing DMCA take downs. Whenever we get a legal take down notice the file is removed that day, unless something comes up and even then it's removed ASAP.

We never upload content through created user accounts to help the growth of the site. Any file that is removed from a DMCA notice is MD5 hashed and can never be uploaded again.

We have a registered DMCA agent and many ways to contact us. The issue with the OP was he was sending his first emails to the wrong place and not using the correct DMCA format...'I here by....under penalty of perjury..'

Once they were brought to my attention I deleted them regardless of the format of his emails.

They are now deleted and the OP has my personal email so that in the future if he finds any other content uploaded it can get removed right away.

To the other tubesite owners who stood up for us, thanks.



DEWEZ

Nautilus 03-22-2012 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DEWEZ (Post 18838618)
I own motherless.com and i know how much time and effort goes into removing DMCA take downs...

...Any file that is removed from a DMCA notice is MD5 hashed and can never be uploaded again.

Do you plan to implement DFP too?

sadiedazzle 03-22-2012 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 18837858)
i think tubes sites can a great way for affiliates to promote many different niches if done properly, similar to TGP/MGP with samples and teasers. i don't care if they buy content and want to devalue it by putting up full length videos because that's their choice. i'd even be up for donating a few full clips if they put up an affiliate link to my site and did it properly.

the illegal tubes have absolutely no regard for content producers and are not interested in supporting the very industry that is making them money. they are leaches who hide behind legal loop holes.

You see that's the problem. There are no affiliate links. These sites just think that people will type in their url. Not gonna happen.

her2njoygam13 04-25-2013 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DEWEZ (Post 18838618)
I own motherless.com and i know how much time and effort goes into removing DMCA take downs. Whenever we get a legal take down notice the file is removed that day, unless something comes up and even then it's removed ASAP.

We never upload content through created user accounts to help the growth of the site. Any file that is removed from a DMCA notice is MD5 hashed and can never be uploaded again.

We have a registered DMCA agent and many ways to contact us. The issue with the OP was he was sending his first emails to the wrong place and not using the correct DMCA format...'I here by....under penalty of perjury..'

Once they were brought to my attention I deleted them regardless of the format of his emails.

They are now deleted and the OP has my personal email so that in the future if he finds any other content uploaded it can get removed right away.

To the other tubesite owners who stood up for us, thanks.



DEWEZ

Knowing that you currently cant answer, i leave my reply as a rather rhetorical statement. What you wrote though is so full of bigotry and unvoluntary irony, that i simply cant let it unrefuted!
As any porn-tube of ur sort, you live entirely of the copyrighted material that ur members upload, and always did - in fact, "motherless" wouldnt be able to survive a single day w/o contect stolen from other websites! You have been accused, and more recently convicted, more often as i cant count with the fingers of one hand... the last time now, a californian judge made earnest!
The plaintiff there was ventura content ltd for pink visual - and using ur own searchbox, i by the date get several thousands of results when searching for 'pink visual' or its most common titles and actresses! And the real funny thing is, that while you officially dropped out now as registrant of "motherless", ur successor 'headz' uses the very same links and habits, and even tells members in siteintern tutorials how to remove watermarks (!)... same time that hes still accused as 'doe' in the PV-trial! Now, how much longer you think you could hoax not only any of the people here, but the american justice-system?!
Sadly, admin forbid me to post my knowledge here; so i PMed and emailed dgraves, nikki and several other members, who were very outspoken in the threads here - but all i got so far, is ONE, rather uninterested, answer! Seems some folks here used to fulminate verbaly, are rather reluctant when things become serious?! Anyone here though, whos interested by now, or knows a place where i can inform VCL's lawyers, is abundantly invited to contact me!

purecane 04-25-2013 12:51 PM

""Welcome to a moral free zone where anything legal stays! All content posted to this site is 100% user contributed. All uploaded content is previewed by admins before being posted and anything illegal will be reported. If you want to blame someone for the content on this site, blame the people of the world, not us.""


I dont know if this is still on the site....When we were thinking about making a tube our lawyers assured us if we monitored or edited content in any way we would not be covered under DMCA rules....the content HAS TO BE A FREE FOR ALL or else it doesn't apply....as a tube owner you can only be notified of infringing content. you have to allow ALL content to be uploaded without editorial oversight.

This comes directly from THE BEST layer in the biz on this topic....so....those tubes that THINK they are covered may want to think again....all its going to take is one well placed suit to see what sort of precedent can be set.....and if you don't know this one little fact and are hosting in the US....its not a pretty picture.


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