bump for answers

Milf-tastic! :)

bump for bullshit

Waiting waiting.....

whered she go? :Oh crap

pull all your links

Links pulled.

rogue solo girl did it?

They are not the most honest webmaster operation in my opinion.

CCBill links show correctly for me. IF I go through a non-CCBill link I get Epic.

Still doesn't explain why a program offering lifetime revshare is now set to 6 rebills max without ever notifying the webmasters.

If its a cascade yes it works just fine.

It's not in a cascade. It could be if they wanted to play it straight, but apparently they do not. Links pulled.

I guess the rebill thing has been corrected. I just logged in and saw:

"Trial Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Unlimited) rebills Recurring Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Unlimited) rebills"

Not mine.

Recurring Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (6) rebills

Ditto. :321GFY

Just double checked to make sure I was looking at the right one. Yup, Naughty4cash.com (916156-0000) shows unlimited rebills for me. Curious that it would not be the same for everyone.

Signup Date: 07/26/2007
Trial Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Unlimited) rebills
Recurring Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (6) rebills

Right after people found out. How convenient.

I wonder why people are waiting for answers. What exactly do you expect? This is cleary someone who screws over affiliates in a very sneaky way. That's the only answer.

They make sure returning visitors with your cookie won't make you any money by sending them to an Epoch singup page. That and the uncredited Epoch link under the CCbill link and the 6 month rebilling thing. You think this is all just an accident?

It is fucked up. Its completely fucked up.

This is not an excuse, but it is a sign of the times when you have sites like this and melissa midwest and the list goes on and on, that never had to do this type of shit to make money.
Times are getting fucking hard, and with the wonky billing hiccups Ive been seeing lately, it's no surprise to see these types of programs pulling tricks like this to "tweak" their cash flow.

Even if times get tough this type of shit is still unexcusable.

stop promoting people trying to fuck affiliates

I'm announcing this on my boards, blacklisting her program

....but still out of curiousity would love to hear what she has to say about this lol

bump for scumbags and getting the word out.
Perhaps she will "withdraw from the boards" because of "baseless accusations"

Deals 24/7 ?

dont promote washed up solo girls that fuck affiliates!

She will let you know straight after the 3rd new server is set up. :thumbsup

BTW, links fucking pulled...

If you go back to the end of 2009 they were pulling some dodgy shit back then. They were sending CCBill affiliates traffic to join pages with Epoch billing that wasn't being credited to the affiliate.

Their solution, provide a second join page for the affiliate(s) that complained about it. I'm not aware that they publicly made an announcement to all affiliates to change links. They also didn't change the links on the FHG.

It also looks like they didn't notify affiliates when the decided to change the link again and it now doesn't exist and redirects to tour5, which has the Epoch billing.

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic....com/join2.htm

I dropped them and pulled all links in 2009 because of this dodgy shit they were pulling.

keep people FUCKING affiliates up top. PULL YOUR LINKS

has desirae responded yet? affiliates do NOT put up with programs trying to FUCK YOU

desirae you plan on responding?

I think we all got a green light already confirmed, to add Naughty4cash to blacklists and cheaters pages :(

:mad: That's fucked UP, explains on how 10 years of promoting her and 8 rebills for the month

At least using CCBill allows affiliates to find out whether we are being fucked with or not. I only trust processing where nothing gets in between me and CCBill. Everything else means you can and probably do get screwed. If the sponsor uses php or mhtml, or you are getting checks written to you by the sponsor and not by the processor, you are probably getting screwed. That's seems to be the state of the business these days. It is constantly happening with no repercussions. The thieves steal from the affiliate, change their name and steal again and again. Time to get smart, at least for me, I am pretty much only promoting CCBill because of transparency. Plus they send checks out at a minimum of $25. Fuck this minimum of $100, $200 or $500. I've got thousands tied up in various affilate programs that I will never get my money. Fuck Naughty 4 Cash, links pulled, Buh-bye. And I know you are reading this thread Desirae, shame on you. Wal-mart is hiring.

right on

mine hits are beeing tracked nicely

I love her, one from the first sites I was really pushing

If you are still promoting her site then you and others like you are the reason sponsors feel like they can rip you off whenever they want to.

Bump. I can think of a non-nefarious reason or three why this might have happened, but if so, not sure why that reason hasn't been provided yet. Still, people are way too quick to judge. And to hold CCBill as blameless and entirely trustworthy (see also: Oron threads).

And what about her neglect to confront this issue? :disgust

Silence is your answer

Not everybody can afford to sit on GFY or at their computers 24/7, 7 days a week.

It's interesting that everyone personally blames Desirae, which assumes she does everything herself for her site and her affiliate program on top of being the content for it, without considering that if she does everything herself it might be hard to deal with the server problems and switch she talked about, research how a fuck-up happened and fix it, and maintain all of her other commitments. Or maybe she has an ex or a husband or who knows what who's fucking with her or someone she hired once who's sabotaging her shit or just doesn't know what they're doing . . . WHO KNOWS? I don't know . . .

Just curious and not 100% sure rushing to condemn her is fair. The rebill cap might have been from people in a group that signed up within a certain time frame when the terms were different. Doubtful, but possible. I signed up to her program in 2008 and mine says unlimited rebills, but I *just* checked it.

Trixie, Desirae was here in this thread already, she's TOTALLY aware of some bullshit going on with her sites/program.

She has seen this thread, and she chose to not reply this issue.... that alone shows she's being "wrong" about how to handle this.

Imagine all the people who lost tons of rebills because of this "little" problem. Sure to most ppl why big deal? but there was definitely a lot of money going in the wrong pockets because of this :(

desirae knows full fucking well whats she is doing, she's AVOIDING this thread for a reason. welcome to 2012 when washed up solo girls fuck affiliates

She said "I switched servers because my old one crashed & had to reload everything on Naughtyathome.com." If that's true - THREE HUGE PROBLEMS/TASKS ON THEIR OWN - maybe she's overwhelmed with a fuckload of problems and trying to take care of members and put out a bunch of other fires and stuff that got messed up. See what I mean?

I agree it doesn't answer the question of why payouts on rebills were set to stop after 6 - unacceptable if done on purpose in contradiction to promises made at signup. That's why I'm bumping the thread but also trying not to be hasty.

When big sponsors or ccbill fuck up, there's always a bunch of people who rush in to defend them as though they can do no wrong. I just think a little moderation is good, and since nobody else was providing it am trying to. For a few more days, anyway. ;)

Trixie this thread was started over 1.5 months ago and Desirae's server problems were MONTHS ago also yet still NO response. Bottom line she is fucking affiliates which in 2012 has shamefully become the SOP...

Ohhhhhhhhhhh - thanks for pointing that out - I stupidly didn't notice the dates.

But on the bright side I feel relieved that I can stop looking up to her. I always thought she was someone who was doing things right and was WAY better at this than we are! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I might fail to notice when a thread is old, but I would never fuck our affiliates like that.

I signed up for her program years ago and it was unlimited rebills because I checked. Recently when I checked again it had been changed to only 6 rebills. That has to be done by the sponsor, since it is Desirae's site, she is the reponsible party. Those features don't changed magically when you switch servers. That's one of the good reasons I use CCBill and promote CCBill sites like yours, the transparency available to the affiliate. Trust is apparently a bit old fashioned these days. Personally I sever connections to thieves as soon as I catch them.

I don't really think anyone expects Desirae to respond to this thread. Her actions cannot be defended.

almost all amateur solo girls eventually end up washed up has beens

I don't necessarily agree with that. I think most get burnt out at some point, but some don't and they continue on. True amateur solo girls sites probably number less than fifty these days, maybe even less. Some of the solo girl sites that are over ten years old are probably not seeing sales and income like they became used to. Some of them cling to the way they were doing business in 1999. Instead of adapting to the new market, they continue a downward spiral resorting to cheap tricks, affiliate ripoffs and an old way of maintaining their sites. Now a good portion are probably losing all those rebills they've relied on for years. So it goes. Amateur sites that update once a week and ignore the video market are pretty much doomed. Using old tech, out of focus photos, poor lighting doesn't get it anymore. Well what the fuck, I'm just preaching to the choir now.

I'm out of here.

I definitely don't agree with that. :thumbsup