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nikki99 06-13-2012 08:16 AM

Paxum fucking ROCKS :thumbsup

say NO to Piracy :thumbsup

RuthB 06-13-2012 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BaldBishop (Post 19002627)
:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup



I didn't know that. I'll have to check that out.

This link has full technical details about our API/IPN :thumbsup

https://www.paxum.com/payment_docs/p...piIntroduction

Thanks for your interest! Feel free to get in touch if you have any questions at all. :)

ICQ #233-854-608
AIM/YM/SKYPE - PaxumRuth
Email - [email protected]

shake 06-13-2012 08:21 AM

Glad to hear paxum making a stand now.

EpicPanda 06-13-2012 09:00 AM

Very good to know. Good choice, and well worded. I'll be looking at Paxum in the future.

I wish CCBill would clean up their act.

Nautilus 06-13-2012 09:19 AM

Awesome statement!

ruff 06-13-2012 12:32 PM

Thank you Paxum.

Eyeball 06-13-2012 01:17 PM

Needed a bigger font.

pimpmaster9000 06-13-2012 01:37 PM

Integrity pays off. Kudos to Paxum for making a moral and not a financial decision. Speaks a lot about the company and the people who work for it.:thumbsup

CyberHustler 06-13-2012 01:38 PM

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CyberHustler 06-13-2012 01:38 PM

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CyberHustler 06-13-2012 01:39 PM

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lagcam 06-13-2012 06:14 PM

Its a good PR move of course, but I am sure that it is at least partly based also on the fact that many people involved in such businesses are hiding behind fake IDs.....

PXN 06-13-2012 06:24 PM

Well, Manwin which owns Braz and PornHub and a bunch of tubes with stolen stuff right? So you going to take them down too? I'm just sayin'.
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I very much doubt it, cause they make you money.

pornmasta 06-13-2012 07:38 PM

It would be complicity to accept these sites.

CaptainHowdy 06-14-2012 06:46 AM

Bumpin'...

u-Bob 06-14-2012 07:16 AM

nice move!

RuthB 06-15-2012 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhadPanda (Post 19002780)
Very good to know. Good choice, and well worded. I'll be looking at Paxum in the future.

Thanks :)

If you have any questions or need any assistance at all getting set up with Paxum, please let me know and I'll be happy to help

ICQ #233-854-608
AIM/YM/SKYPE - PaxumRuth
Email - [email protected]

:thumbsup

just a punk 06-28-2012 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RuthB (Post 19007193)
Thanks :)

If you have any questions or need any assistance at all getting set up with Paxum, please let me know and I'll be happy to help

ICQ #233-854-608
AIM/YM/SKYPE - PaxumRuth
Email - [email protected]

:thumbsup

Oops. Here we go:

http://stopfilelockers.com/wp-conten...llionoffer.jpg

johnnyloadproductions 06-28-2012 10:35 AM

I guess due diligence and review is too much.
https://gfy.com/picture.php?albumid=328&pictureid=2374

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19029243)


RuthB 06-28-2012 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions (Post 19029267)
I guess due diligence and review is too much.
https://gfy.com/picture.php?albumid=328&pictureid=2374

When business clients sign up with us, we ask them to provide us information relating to their company, including a URL. This information is then checked and the account is usually approved unless we see something that is in direct violation with our Terms of Service.

I saw mention of Squillion in another thread and we will be investigating the situation, and taking appropriate action.

It's easy to jump on the bandwagon and accuse us of duplicity, but as was originally stated in the starting post of this thread:

Quote:

Since there are quite a lot of these types of sites around, and since we do not know every single one of them by name, we do ask that, should you encounter any such illegal file-sharing/piracy sites using Paxum services, PLEASE notify us IMMEDIATELY so that we can take the necessary steps to cease doing business with such companies.
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. We sincerely appreciate the communication, and we will investigate the situation.

just a punk 06-28-2012 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RuthB (Post 19029331)
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. We sincerely appreciate the communication, and we will investigate the situation.

:thumbsup

AdultKing 08-23-2012 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 19003336)
Integrity pays off. Kudos to Paxum for making a moral and not a financial decision. Speaks a lot about the company and the people who work for it.:thumbsup

Why won't Paxum take action when two file locker sites are brought to their attention with Paxum accounts ? Read on.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 19002831)
Awesome statement!

Shame the reality didn't match the sentiment.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhadPanda (Post 19002780)
Very good to know. Good choice, and well worded. I'll be looking at Paxum in the future.

Very well worded. First Paxum accepted payments for Squillion without taking action, now Paxum are taking payments for FileFap.com without taking action.

Here's the rub, unless Paxum has already verified an account then that account can keep taking payments and Paxum can't do a thing about it according to Paxum!

"Unverified accounts can receive funds, however in order for any Paxum account-holder to be able to access any funds in their account, they must first verify their Paxum account."

However Paxum have also continued to allow FileFap.com to keep receiving payments into it's Paxum account, the payment flow still works

http://filefap.com

"If the account were to become verified and receive funds from sources that are in violation of our Terms of Service such as piracy sites, then we would be able to take appropriate action."

So until an account is verified, it can still be used to collect payments allowing access to pirated content.

Paxum, please come up with something substantive, like actually CANCELLING the account and displaying a message similar to "This recipient cannot receive funds" and not allowing the payment flow to actually process.

peterk 08-23-2012 06:27 AM

what you expect from a company that sells snake oil and devices to make penis bigger.

AdultKing 08-23-2012 02:47 PM

Paxum have replied to us confirming they do not deal with file lockers and stating that after thorough investigation of the account in question that they have terminated the account.

However it appears to us like the payment flow will still work and we were able to progress a transaction stopping short of confirming payment.

We have asked Paxum for clarification.

DWB 08-23-2012 03:16 PM

Bump for the haters and naysayers.

peterk 08-23-2012 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19142151)
Bump for the haters and naysayers.

is that you in your avatar? you look dirty but not white.

ShoeBox 08-23-2012 06:31 PM

Good Job Paxum!

AdultKing 09-17-2014 08:17 AM

Paxum lied.

Simple fact is they process for file lockers.

http://stopfilelockers.com/wp-conten...le-lockers.png


http://stopfilelockers.com/wp-conten...e-lockers2.png


As far as I can tell in my communications with Paxum they have no risk management team so are just completely unable to monitor and deal with such issues.

Paxum are great at salesmanship - but when it comes to controlling what goes on with their own payment processing system they are lousy.

I wonder what the point is of their KYC efforts when they rely on third parties to raise issues of risk with them - then once the issue is raised it can take a year or more for action.

Paxum process for file lockers, lots of them, through the reseller VIP-KEYS.

bluebook18 09-17-2014 02:55 PM

bump for AK , paxum please shut down this vip-keys!!

seeandsee 09-17-2014 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RuthB (Post 19001308)


Since there are quite a lot of these types of sites around, and since we do not know every single one of them by name, we do ask that, should you encounter any such illegal file-sharing/piracy sites using Paxum services, PLEASE notify us IMMEDIATELY so that we can take the necessary steps to cease doing business with such companies.

Thanks in advance for your assistance! :thumbsup

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20228105)
Paxum lied.

Simple fact is they process for file lockers.

Lied what??? AK you are really easy on words...

AdultKing 09-17-2014 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 20228461)
Lied what??? AK you are really easy on words...

I stand by my words. It took more than a year to be told by Chris that an account had been dealt with that was linked to an infringing image host, however that account can still receive funds.

On the 20th August this year I first informed Paxum about VIP-KEYS, apart from the fact that they wanted us to do all the investigation (i.e.: tracking the account details), they have not disabled the account.

Paxum are working with file lockers, if they had a credible risk management team then they might be able to find abuse of their service by themselves.

To make matters even worse, an account we reported to Paxum not long after this thread was posted by Ruth can still receive funds.

The original post was an empty, cheap PR stunt - until Paxum take these issues seriously I'll keep raising these issues publicly. Paypal, Payza, Skrill all have proper risk management procedures - Paxum do not.

Due 09-18-2014 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20228617)
Paypal, Payza, Skrill all have proper risk management procedures - Paxum do not.

Shit do I risk my funds being frozen by the DOJ or something then? If they do not perform their due diligence and proper KYC things turn ugly really fast...

RuthB 09-18-2014 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Due (Post 20229157)
Shit do I risk my funds being frozen by the DOJ or something then? If they do not perform their due diligence and proper KYC things turn ugly really fast...

Paxum performs complete KYC for EVERY account. We have a fraud department which investigates any fraudulent activity in our system. Many of our business clients can attest to the effectiveness of our fraud department.

Your Paxum funds are at no risk of being frozen by the DOJ or anything like that. We do perform due diligence and full KYC requirements.

Due, please hit me up directly if you want to chat about this in more detail at all. :thumbsup

Due 09-18-2014 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RuthB (Post 20229173)
Paxum performs complete KYC for EVERY account. We have a fraud department which investigates any fraudulent activity in our system. Many of our business clients can attest to the effectiveness of our fraud department.

Your Paxum funds are at no risk of being frozen by the DOJ or anything like that. We do perform due diligence and full KYC requirements.

Due, please hit me up directly if you want to chat about this in more detail at all. :thumbsup

Hi Ruth,

I'll hit you up later today.
I just stepped out for a lunch appointment.

AdultKing 09-18-2014 04:15 PM

http://stopfilelockers.com/wp-conten...le-lockers.png

Meanwhile VIPKEYS still accepts Paxum payments for more than a dozen of the largest file lockers.

robwod 09-18-2014 04:59 PM

AK: Not to be contentious, but according to that screencap, apparently so does VISA, Mastercard, Webmoney and others.

Are you attacking all of their processors, including VISA/Mastercard, or just singling out Paxum? I ask, genuinely, because it seems like you are targeting Paxum and/or Paypal specifically. Unless I am mistaken, I would think that any anti-piracy efforts would have greater effect by targeting the larger processors. Certainly there would be more media coverage over it.

That said, I have no dog in this race, Just curious is all.

AdultKing 09-18-2014 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robwod (Post 20229502)
AK: Not to be contentious, but according to that screencap, apparently so does VISA, Mastercard, Webmoney and others.

Are you attacking all of their processors, including VISA/Mastercard, or just singling out Paxum? I ask, genuinely, because it seems like you are targeting Paxum and/or Paypal specifically. Unless I am mistaken, I would think that any anti-piracy efforts would have greater effect by targeting the larger processors. Certainly there would be more media coverage over it.

That said, I have no dog in this race, Just curious is all.

We work to shut off all forms of processing.

VIP KEYS has twice lost Visa and once lost Mastercard and then found new acquirers. As with every time this happens we go back through the processes.

Webmoney is a lost cause, although we still seek to put pressure on them via several means, but Webmoney process payments for ILLEGAL websites - so having them shut off file lockers is not easy.

The real point in this thread is that Paxum posted this thread as nothing more than a cheap publicity stunt, however have NEVER followed through on the promise they themselves made. I didn't force them to post a thread announcing they would not be involved with file lockers, they did it by themselves. Now I expect them to honour their commitment and will keep this thread bumped with examples of where they are not doing so.

AdultKing 09-18-2014 11:58 PM

Here's a fine upstanding Paxum affiliate.

http://stopfilelockers.com/wp-conten...geria-HOME.png

H3x 09-19-2014 04:01 AM

Nice work Paxum ;)

Maqua 09-19-2014 06:05 AM

:thumbsup


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