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Nathan 06-23-2012 03:14 AM

DWB, totally agree, as I said, the Hong Kong fact is the biggest thing here, the freezing of assets in the US for 1-2 week is likely going to not change much.

Regarding your post about how RK owns Slutload and what not...

1) I have not yet seen a press release about RK and Manwin completing a merger, have you?

2) I have not yet seen a press release stating what assets will be merged either, have you?

3) All I have seen is an article that did not come from us which states a filing in Austria which has to take place prior to any such acquisition or merger happening. PRIOR is the keyword here...

So no, you are completely wrong that Manwin is in the middle of some scandalous shit... first of all PV's lawsuit against Slutload is far from Scandalous, its just the same thing they've been doing for the past 2 or so years... nothing new. second, we have not, and will not be buying Slutload. We are not interested in the site, its not good enough in our opinion.

DWB 06-23-2012 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 19020289)
DWB, totally agree, as I said, the Hong Kong fact is the biggest thing here, the freezing of assets in the US for 1-2 week is likely going to not change much.

Yea, my guess is all his cash is sitting in HK. I wouldn't be keeping it in the USA, that is for sure.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 19020289)
Regarding your post about how RK owns Slutload and what not...

1) I have not yet seen a press release about RK and Manwin completing a merger, have you?

2) I have not yet seen a press release stating what assets will be merged either, have you?

3) All I have seen is an article that did not come from us which states a filing in Austria which has to take place prior to any such acquisition or merger happening. PRIOR is the keyword here...

So no, you are completely wrong that Manwin is in the middle of some scandalous shit... first of all PV's lawsuit against Slutload is far from Scandalous, its just the same thing they've been doing for the past 2 or so years... nothing new. second, we have not, and will not be buying Slutload. We are not interested in the site, its not good enough in our opinion.

I stand corrected. The release was to announce the merger notification, not the completion of a merger.

I guess I'll let you slide on this one. :winkwink:

Nathan 06-23-2012 03:30 AM

Thank you DWB ;)

Regarding HK... problem is its only up to 3 million.. FF Magnet I am sure has more than that.. A site like Oron likely makes around 500k-1m a month in profits, at least it has for the longest time... depends on how much they take out of the company each month I guess... So we'll see... it is at least relatively likely that FF Magnet still has enough cash available to pay their hosting and affiliate program for the next couple of weeks if not months...

I hope their lawyer sucks ass, or that I can convince certain people that losing the power cable to their racks is a good idea...

DWB 06-23-2012 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 19020293)
Thank you DWB ;)

Regarding HK... problem is its only up to 3 million.. FF Magnet I am sure has more than that.. A site like Oron likely makes around 500k-1m a month in profits, at least it has for the longest time... depends on how much they take out of the company each month I guess... So we'll see... it is at least relatively likely that FF Magnet still has enough cash available to pay their hosting and affiliate program for the next couple of weeks if not months...

I hope their lawyer sucks ass, or that I can convince certain people that losing the power cable to their racks is a good idea...

Only speaking for myself, but if I was making 500k a month and doing so with that sort of a high risk business model, I would have various bank accounts under various companies, under varies nominee names, in several counties. Cyprus, Lichtenstein, Hong Kong, or where ever. I'd also have a lot of easy to sell tangible assets in the event my cash was frozen.

So you may be right, he may have plenty more sitting elsewhere. If he has 1/2 a brain, he would.

Nathan 06-23-2012 03:51 AM

Let's hope he only has 1/4th of a brain then ;)

scottybuzz 06-23-2012 04:01 AM

hey , im a little out of the loop. Side topic:

what happened to the mega upload guy? I see the site is still down :D but is he in jail, bail, free?

Paul Markham 06-23-2012 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 19020254)
Guys, although I love what Corbin fisher did, pls can you guys at least read the whole fuvking press release!!!!

The judge froze CASH assets and hard assets like servers and domains so they can not be MOVED!!! Nothing was seized! This is a precaution because the judge wants to make sure there are enough assets in case he has to act fast since the amount sued for is considerable. This is frozen until the first hearing where oron can argue why they should be unfrozen!

Until we see what happens at that hearing we will not know the future of oron and even if things remain frozen there is no reason to believe that oron.com will be shutdown anytime soon because of this lawsuit.

What we can hope for is that LeaseWeb sees this as enough of a legal risk to shut them down, but for now sadly I could not convince them they should act fast, and neither has ACIUF... We'll see if this lawsuit helps...

Pornbb is down for a completely different reason!

What is Manwin doing that compares with what Corbin Fisher and Zero Tolerance are doing to fight piracy?

Slappin Fish 06-23-2012 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by topnotch, standup guy (Post 19019693)
http://oron.com/ is still up :(


.

Yep but pornbb.org and other sites they run are down.

Hank_Heartland 06-23-2012 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 19020293)
Thank you DWB ;)

Regarding HK... problem is its only up to 3 million.. FF Magnet I am sure has more than that.. A site like Oron likely makes around 500k-1m a month in profits, at least it has for the longest time... depends on how much they take out of the company each month I guess... So we'll see... it is at least relatively likely that FF Magnet still has enough cash available to pay their hosting and affiliate program for the next couple of weeks if not months...

I hope their lawyer sucks ass, or that I can convince certain people that losing the power cable to their racks is a good idea...

Let's not forget that the 3rd party processors in this are also ordered to hold funds to them...we are talking alot more than the $3 mil in HK they won't have available:thumbsup

Paul Markham 06-23-2012 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank_Heartland (Post 19020363)
Let's not forget that the 3rd party processors in this are also ordered to hold funds to them...we are talking alot more than the $3 mil in HK they won't have available:thumbsup

This has so many benefits for those taking action, the cost might even be well worth it.

1. As you say it clearly shows these people doing the uploading they're not going to get left alone.

2. It also puts file servers on not notice not to fuck with the plaintiffs. Forget a court deciding yes or no. They don't want this problem down the line. They will do their utmost to avoid it. This might even provide a loop hole in their DMCA protection. So these companies will get their content less pirated on these sites and others.

3. It also deprives many of an income for a few weeks or months. Uploading and spamming it around piracy forums is their job. They have bills to pay.

4. Processors are dragged in. Do they want to be fighting these fights over and over or just drop these guys?

5. It clearly shows the weak points. The money flow.

6. PR. It's telling the customers and affiliates of these companies we will fuck with those that fuck with us.

7. So much nicer than bending over to these ass rapers and just blurting out excuses or saying nothing when asked a direct question.

BIGTYMER 06-23-2012 06:30 AM

And the fleas have moved to RapidGator.

RycEric 06-23-2012 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 19020254)
Guys, although I love what Corbin fisher did, pls can you guys at least read the whole fuvking press release!!!!

The judge froze CASH assets and hard assets like servers and domains so they can not be MOVED!!! Nothing was seized! This is a precaution because the judge wants to make sure there are enough assets in case he has to act fast since the amount sued for is considerable. This is frozen until the first hearing where oron can argue why they should be unfrozen!

Until we see what happens at that hearing we will not know the future of oron and even if things remain frozen there is no reason to believe that oron.com will be shutdown anytime soon because of this lawsuit.

What we can hope for is that LeaseWeb sees this as enough of a legal risk to shut them down, but for now sadly I could not convince them they should act fast, and neither has ACIUF... We'll see if this lawsuit helps...

Pornbb is down for a completely different reason!

Let's not forget who threw the first punch (some time ago) without ANY lawyers and without ANY big studio money. We did via PP.

Barefootsies 06-23-2012 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RycEric (Post 19020403)
Let's not forget who threw the first punch (some time ago) without ANY lawyers and without ANY big studio money. We did via PP.

We'll nominate you for a GFY or XBIZ award for your shining achievements chief.

:2 cents:

RycEric 06-23-2012 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 19020408)
We'll nominate you for a GFY or XBIZ award for your shining achievements chief.

:2 cents:

:1orglaugh Thanks.. but we don't run any stolen content tube sites or buy drinks at shows, thus, already disqualified.

nikki99 06-23-2012 07:31 AM

http://www.baja-opcionez.com/ is down

Harmon 06-23-2012 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikki99 (Post 19020426)

working here

MaDalton 06-23-2012 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikki99 (Post 19020426)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon (Post 19020528)
working here

http://bitshare.com/premium.html

working here too, but none of the paypal links work?

only the "handy pay" link for me, which is once again provided by micropayment.de

DWB 06-23-2012 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RycEric (Post 19020412)
Thanks.. but we don't run any stolen content tube sites or buy drinks at shows, thus, already disqualified.

:1orglaugh :thumbsup

Nautilus 06-23-2012 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 19020545)
http://bitshare.com/premium.html

working here too, but none of the paypal links work?

Yes paypal links do not work. Wow.

DBS.US 06-23-2012 09:58 AM

The gays have the biggest balls:thumbsup

Nautilus 06-23-2012 10:01 AM

Freakshare also seems to have been affected - no paypal, only the paymentwall button:

http://freakshare.com/shop.html

Looks like paypal is freaking out after Oron and gay company Corbin Fisher got them some cool publicity.

nikki99 06-23-2012 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBS.US (Post 19020582)
The gays have the biggest balls:thumbsup

sometimes I wish I was gay :thumbsup

astronaut x 06-23-2012 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SZNY (Post 19019332)
great stuff, wondering if Paypal wants to be related to a client who is sued by a gay company :2 cents:

Hopefully, they get fucked in the ass

$5 submissions 06-23-2012 01:13 PM

Great news. Oron links are all over many leech forums. Still a few other leech services alive and kicking though.

nikki99 06-24-2012 07:31 AM

fetishpornbb IS DOWN!

RycEric 06-24-2012 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 19020785)
Great news. Oron links are all over many leech forums. Still a few other leech services alive and kicking though.

There are currently close to 3.7 million publicly available oron links just on forumo'pedo'philia alone. I used the term publicly because of their invite only section as well. :2 cents:

Roald 06-24-2012 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RycEric (Post 19021769)
There are currently close to 3.7 million publicly available oron links just on forumo'pedo'philia alone. I used the term publicly because of their invite only section as well. :2 cents:

just wondering, as im sure you have an idea, how big is their invite only section?

RycEric 06-24-2012 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 19021775)
just wondering, as im sure you have an idea, how big is their invite only section?

Their private posting area may attribute to less than 5% of the overall posts.

Roald 06-24-2012 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RycEric (Post 19021792)
Their private posting area may attribute to less than 5% of the overall posts.

ok thank you.

DWB 06-24-2012 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RycEric (Post 19021769)
There are currently close to 3.7 million publicly available oron links just on forumo'pedo'philia alone. I used the term publicly because of their invite only section as well. :2 cents:

What's in the private area? CP or just stuff they don't want to get a DMCA on?

Nathan 06-24-2012 11:25 AM

Eric, Considering you called the side forumo'pedo'philia; do you have proof of such content being hosted there? Would make a few things I am doing a lot easier..

Also, can you confirm their hosting provider? I think it's root SA like girl scanner but am not 100% sure.

Nathan 06-24-2012 11:26 AM

Being hosted/being distributed I guess

babymaker 06-24-2012 11:36 AM

Oron is up and billing with Visa here, I am confused now lol :) Whats going on?

DWB 06-24-2012 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 19021823)

Also, can you confirm their hosting provider? I think it's root SA like girl scanner but am not 100% sure.

"This page (http://forumophilia.com/) is currently offline. However, because the site uses CloudFlare's Always Online? technology you can continue to surf a snapshot of the site. We will keep checking in the background and, as soon as the site comes back, you will automatically be served the live version. Always Online? is powered by CloudFlare"

http://i2.lulzimg.com/834285ccb2.jpg

Nathan 06-24-2012 11:47 AM

dwb, forumophilia works here... does girlscanner.com work for you?

Nathan 06-24-2012 11:48 AM

btw, cloudflare is not their host, cloudflare just provides automated CDN.

DWB 06-24-2012 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 19021854)
dwb, forumophilia works here... does girlscanner.com work for you?

girlscanner does not load for me.

Forbidden

You don't have permission to access / on this server.


forumophilia was giving me that error for about 10 minutes at the time I read you post, but it's back up now.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 19021855)
btw, cloudflare is not their host, cloudflare just provides automated CDN.

Yes, I know. Just was posting what came up when I was going to their site.

RycEric 06-24-2012 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 19021823)
Eric, Considering you called the side forumo'pedo'philia; do you have proof of such content being hosted there? Would make a few things I am doing a lot easier..

Also, can you confirm their hosting provider? I think it's root SA like girl scanner but am not 100% sure.

I wouldn't have proof anywhere.. the DOJ would though I am sure. The site has LS and other similar content on it though.

http://www.crime-research.org/news/2.../comments/?p=2

last known hosting is Root without civil subpoena not quite sure.

pimpmaster9000 06-24-2012 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Half man, Half Amazing (Post 19019784)
Most of which are irrelevant since they don't pay out thus don't attract the prolific uploaders, not to mention few people have or will buy premium accounts there.

You don't have to kill every soldier on the other side, just enough of the generals and the others will surrender
.

:thumbsup exactly

Nathan 06-24-2012 12:22 PM

root SA is taking both sites offline, that I know, maybe forumophilia moved already though.


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