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Roald 06-24-2012 12:30 PM

forumophilia as well as girlscanner are both still up here.

DWB 06-24-2012 12:32 PM

girlscanner.com is now online.

Both of them were off for me before. A move would make sense.

DWB 06-24-2012 12:56 PM

And... back off again.

Roald 06-24-2012 01:00 PM

girlscanner is great lmao

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- Site www.girlscanner.com not obey the laws of the United States of America, so as not geographically not legally does not belong to the state.
- Access to the entrance, registration on the site www.girlscanner.com for "Persons authorized to act on behalf of the owner," "Authorized Agents DMCA" and other officials is STRICTLY PROHIBITED! In case of violation of this rule, any statements on their behalf will have no legal effect. This site is intended only for individuals (users) and has no commercial benefit.

Slappin Fish 06-24-2012 01:13 PM

All the large forums are up here with the exception of pornbb.org the whois screenshot floating around with oron.com listed as the owner probably explains it.

Captain Kawaii 06-24-2012 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 19020585)
Freakshare also seems to have been affected - no paypal, only the paymentwall button:

http://freakshare.com/shop.html

Looks like paypal is freaking out after Oron and gay company Corbin Fisher got them some cool publicity.

Paypal is loading again.:mad:

signupdamnit 06-24-2012 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Slappin Fish (Post 19021949)
All the large forums are up here with the exception of pornbb.org the whois screenshot floating around with oron.com listed as the owner probably explains it.

Yes something more will need to be done to take them all down for good. It's like trying to choke someone out. You have to keep the pressure on and prevent them from breathing. All it takes is one breath and then they can hold off for another minute or two before they go unconscious. Constant never ending pressure is needed to do the job.

They need to lose their domains or have it such that it is impossible for them to process using mainstream payment methods before they will be gone and stay gone. Making them dance from payment processor to payment processor helps hit them in the pocketbook some but they are still standing in the end. More is needed to finish them.

Slappin Fish 06-24-2012 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 19021957)
Paypal is loading again.:mad:

Paypal option loads but if you click on the link :

"At this time, we are unable to process your request. Please return to FreakShare and try another option."

DWB 06-24-2012 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slappin Fish (Post 19021980)
Paypal option loads but if you click on the link :

"At this time, we are unable to process your request. Please return to FreakShare and try another option."

Paypal is fully functional now. :Oh crap

Mutt 06-24-2012 06:38 PM

we as an industry could really put the heat on Paypal and VISA - using the CP angle.

Paul Markham 06-25-2012 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 19022250)
we as an industry could really put the heat on Paypal and VISA - using the CP angle.

Publicity is the angle to work on.

xxxman2 06-25-2012 08:04 AM

This news is bullshit

www.oron.com is online and selling Premium account.
pornbb is online too

Roald 06-25-2012 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxman2 (Post 19022850)
This news is bullshit

www.oron.com is online and selling Premium account.
pornbb is online too

Pornbb is still down here and Oron "just" got their assets frozen.

Barefootsies 06-25-2012 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19022028)
Paypal is fully functional now. :Oh crap

Sounds like they got their lawyers on the case.

I am sure these guys are a HUGE account over there. Paypal is probably not in a hurry to lose the revenue.

At the end of the day.... money talks.

BradBreakfast 06-25-2012 10:00 AM

I don't see a paypal option on their payment page.

NerdScott 06-25-2012 10:24 AM

From Kitty-Kats..

Hi,

0r0n is under severe legal pressure, assets and domain frozen. We consider this hoster as UNSAFE now, because we dont know who has control over the data. We have banned all 0r0n links.

We lost a lot of money and will need your help. More Info about that later today.

Please dont send any more PM's why threads have been closed: You can read the answer in the rules that are visible in each section. The limit for all threads is now 100 replies. If it is an ---- thread, it is dead anyway.

MaDalton 06-25-2012 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NerdScott (Post 19023085)
From Kitty-Kats..

Hi,

0r0n is under severe legal pressure, assets and domain frozen. We consider this hoster as UNSAFE now, because we dont know who has control over the data. We have banned all 0r0n links.

We lost a lot of money and will need your help. More Info about that later today.

Please dont send any more PM's why threads have been closed: You can read the answer in the rules that are visible in each section. The limit for all threads is now 100 replies. If it is an ---- thread, it is dead anyway.


it's now rapidgator all over the place

http://rapidgator.net/article/premium

Phoenix 06-25-2012 10:55 AM

Wow..way to go to the Corbin Fisher Team.
Their lawyer must be a pitbull. :)
It does make sense for them to find the right way to combat piracy, we should have the best qualified lawyers for online business related issues.

Sadly, i don't think it will work out quite like everyone expects. I see someone will end up with the only "legal" tube sites, and take tons of traffic.

Axeman 06-25-2012 11:07 AM

Sucks seeing pornbb back up. Guess was only a matter of time. Just gotta run them from their new host I guess.

mikke 06-25-2012 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikki99 (Post 19020587)
sometimes I wish I was gay :thumbsup

nothing lost..

mikke 06-25-2012 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 19021915)
forumophilia as well as girlscanner are both still up here.

same here..

Paul Markham 06-25-2012 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 19023154)
Sadly, i don't think it will work out quite like everyone expects. I see someone will end up with the only "legal" tube sites, and take tons of traffic.

This will be the only outcome of shutting off piracy.

aciuf 06-26-2012 04:35 AM

Ping request could not find host girlscanner.com

Nautilus 06-26-2012 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aciuf (Post 19024683)
Ping request could not find host girlscanner.com

Doesn't load for me too.

Congrats on your new success! :thumbsup

AdultEUhost 06-26-2012 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 19020293)
Thank you DWB ;)

Regarding HK... problem is its only up to 3 million.. FF Magnet I am sure has more than that.. A site like Oron likely makes around 500k-1m a month in profits, at least it has for the longest time... depends on how much they take out of the company each month I guess... So we'll see... it is at least relatively likely that FF Magnet still has enough cash available to pay their hosting and affiliate program for the next couple of weeks if not months...

I hope their lawyer sucks ass, or that I can convince certain people that losing the power cable to their racks is a good idea...

Right, you know where they are hosted right?
You know they host a ton of sites like these right?
They already lost big revenues when megaupload got shutdown, I am sure they will cash as long as they can

AdultEUhost 06-26-2012 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aciuf (Post 19024683)
Ping request could not find host girlscanner.com

they probably hosted their own NS on the box and it looks like the box is shutdown

topnotch, standup guy 06-26-2012 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 19023401)
This will be the only outcome of shutting off piracy.

Puh-leeeze. Give it a fucking rest for crying out loud.

Some of us here are actually trying to follow these events as they unfold.


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MPGdevil 06-26-2012 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 19019319)
Is pornbb.org loading for you?

Site is up again :Oh crap

lddd 06-26-2012 12:54 PM

http://newswire.xbiz.com/view.php?id=150414

you see, nobody cares about your porn... ;)

Paul Markham 06-26-2012 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lddd (Post 19025559)
http://newswire.xbiz.com/view.php?id=150414

you see, nobody cares about your porn... ;)

They will.

JFK 06-26-2012 01:47 PM

One fitty frozen assets:helpme

Suckerpunch 06-26-2012 08:52 PM

And the latest... http://newswire.xbiz.com/view.php?id=150447

BIGTYMER 06-26-2012 09:27 PM

Stick it to them CF! :)

Paul Markham 06-26-2012 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suckerpunch (Post 19026387)

Quote:

Oron attorneys, in defense of Corbin Fisher's $34.8 million copyright infringement suit, today asked a federal judge to partially lift a temporary restraining order so that it can transfer $375,000 to a trust fund. The $375,000, which would come from its PayPal account, would be used for legal fees and business expenses to keep the file-trading site afloat.
Paypal need to be told where the money is coming from to fund the selling of porn.

lucas131 06-27-2012 12:49 AM

but you must agree they have balls, still up and fighting not like all the other services that quietly closed doors and pissed their pants, looks more like they think they are doing legal thing :2 cents:

Slappin Fish 06-27-2012 11:06 AM

Oron Can Only Withdraw $100K Judge Rules...

http://www.xbiz.com/news/150475

DWB 06-27-2012 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slappin Fish (Post 19027421)
Oron Can Only Withdraw $100K Judge Rules...

http://www.xbiz.com/news/150475

Quote:

"Specifically, Oron?s counsel represented that a settlement demand of $500,000 was 'an unreasonable amount' to the defendants and 'more than the company itself was worth' in previous discussions,"
They were offered to settle for $500k. That's a big drop from 34 million.

Robbie 06-27-2012 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slappin Fish (Post 19027421)
Oron Can Only Withdraw $100K Judge Rules...

http://www.xbiz.com/news/150475

So let me get this straight...if any of us just so much as buys ANYTHING that PayPal suspects is "porn related" then they will close the account and never give you ANY Of your money.

But when Oron actually has their PayPal account FROZEN by a judge for piracy of porn....the account is still open?

And no...don't anybody tell me that it's because of the money. PayPal doesn't give a shit about that...they shut down all of adult years ago and kissed millions of dollars goodbye without hesitation.

That's the freakin' strange thing about the fact that they process for these pirate sites. EVERYBODY in the world...from 12 year olds to 90 year olds...know that is where the FREE PORN is.

No way in hell that not even one person at PayPal didn't realize that "yes" they are processing for porn when they process a file locker? And not only that...but they are processing for copyright infringrement?

Very strange. And since I don't believe in things "just happening", I can only assume that they are purposefully doing it. Perhaps in the same frame of mind that the govt. has had with allowing the porn industry to be gutted by piracy.

Intended to destroy our industry once and for all I guess.

Quentin 06-27-2012 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19027838)
So let me get this straight...if any of us just so much as buys ANYTHING that PayPal suspects is "porn related" then they will close the account and never give you ANY Of your money.

But when Oron actually has their PayPal account FROZEN by a judge for piracy of porn....the account is still open?

The dodge from PayPal's perspective is that when people buy services from a cyberlocker through that cyberlocker's PayPal account, that consumer isn't buying content, or even buying access to content; he is merely buying the "cloud storage services" offered by the cyberlocker.

Don't get me wrong -- we all know that's a load of willfully blind bullshit. I'm just saying that "workaround," along with asserting the legal position that all of the illegal activity taking place on the cyberlockers is the sole responsibility of the individual users and not the cyberlocker operators themselves, is how PayPal rationalizes allowing cyberlockers to bill through them.

Yes, it's cynical as hell, and nowhere near in keeping with the spirit of the DMCA's safe harbor provisions.... but until or unless PayPal is successfully dragged into one of these fights as a defendant, or the law itself changes, I suspect PayPal will continue to maintain the same policies concerning cyberlockers.

The funny thing is, we operate a legitimate porn-specific file locker in PVLocker.com (all the content sold there is either ours or duly licensed from the rights-holder, users cannot share any content they upload, only store it and view it themselves through their own account, etc.) but I'm sure PayPal would not process for it, simply because it's porn-specific.

So, ironically, we can't sell our own content through our own cyberlocker by way of PayPal.... but a pirate can rip our videos, upload them to some sketchy, DMCA non-compliant cyberlocker, and sell access to it through PayPal all day long.

Go figure.

Robbie 06-27-2012 04:17 PM

Yes Quentin, that's true...BUT, we've seen over and over where Paypal accounts have been shut down when programs paid their affiliates via Paypal.

That's much further off from buying porn than getting a membership to a file locker to download pirated materials.

And yet...that's what Paypal does. ANYTHING connected in any way to the legal and legitimate adult industry gets your account shut down. Even affiliate payments. :(


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