This is a soldier and many more are speaking up...don't just leave the debate on this thread...seek the videos out yourself...I did and my eyes are wide open


Soldier speaks out about 2012 and FEMA and NWO Elites. He quits and throws medals

OH NOW I SEE...All the countries we are in conflict with LOOK JUST LIKE DOWNTOWN ST. LOUIS :thumbsup I GET IT now buddy.. tell me this G.I.Joe if people are not able to get their money for gas or food...what will happen? The troops will have to come out and keep the peace..do you think angry hungry people will just sit there and salute?

more to chew on

I'd love to sit here and debate this all day, but I'm in the middle of building a drone (seriously) and I have to go get parts before the electronics store closes. Be back this evening.

Do you mean "ridiculous" as in 1970 Kent State ridiculous, where The National Guard shot and killed four students?

Or do you mean "ridiculous" as in something like this:

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I don't know what the future holds, but you can bet your ass if it is for the military to do what they are training them to do right now, it will be done. Maybe not by all of them, but by many.

Not sure how much you know about the history of battle, but starting back in the Civil War days, it was found that many muskets were double loaded. That means they were not fired, but loaded again. The point is, they would not fire on each other. Off the top of my head I don't remember the figure, but it was a staggering number, something like 40% would not shoot. Through the wars the military notices this problem and through "repetitive training" they were able to get their men to shoot around 95% of the time in Vietnam. Each war prior to Vietnam was better than the last, as they improved their training.

What does that mean? That means through repetitive training the military has learned how to train their soldiers to shoot and kill without giving it a whole lot of thought. Don't think for a second if that order is ever given (I don't personally think it will be), that most of them won't react simply due to their training. When the bells ring, the dogs will come running. Hesitation will be trained out of most of them, if it hasn't been already. That is the job of the military, as soldiers are of no use if they can not follow orders and the chain of command.

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we shall see

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LMAO...The army as an organization will not mobilize against us civilians smh. Under NO orders may the army as an "organization" turn arms on civilians (that is the duty of law enforcement). Even if such an order were given, you honestly think that an "order" would outweigh the duty to their families/friends/fellow soldiers?

The govt. is the issue, not the army. Outside of contractors, the army has very little to do with the workings of civilians. That's generally left to the reservists of the military.

Illegal detention = CIA
Illegal hits (murders) = FBI/CIA/Presidential Cabinet
Anti-Protest laws = secret service/presidential cabinet
Phone-taps = can't disclose

There are many more violations of the constitution...but no point in going through it all.
Soldiers/Marines...truth be told, most despise the government more than you do. Any veteran can tell you the dumb shit we deal/dealt with on the daily. Fight for the people, fuck the system.

Point is...yes the government sucks but you have nothing to fear from the army.

As for tanks, yes the tanks are being mobilized...but not to be used in this country. Our government has always been war-mongers, does it really surprise you that we are gearing for another war?

Obviously none of you have been to the Fort Hood area (biggest army post with a heavy amount of infantry). It is very common to see combat as well as non-combat vehicles roaming the civilian areas. Anything from black hawks and apaches to LMTVs, Hum-Vs, tanks and etc.

-Veteran, ex M.I with valid TS clearance.

I am an American Soldier
I am a warrior and a member of a team
I SERVE the people of the united states and live the army values

I was here!

hmm ... as long as the constitution was left unchanged ... yer losing rights for some time already and yet pretend to live free ... i doubt the military will attack citizens, but they could be deployed to a) stop riots (protests against the loss of freedom or such) b) support local authorities to enforce laws (that may or may not be constitutionally compliant) c) make mass arrests and pretty much more ... politics aint black and white - it has many grey tones ... makers of laws dont break laws - they change them to fit their needs ... maybe you should look at it from a different angle before you consider yourself 100% FREE and SAFE!

Great post :thumbsup

I'm back, but it looks like several other people also see this the same as I do. Not sure there is anything else to debate.

Have a nice weekend :)

Ninavain, it's always great to come across someone who sees through the repbulicrat official story/truth blackout this once incredibly awesome country has been subjected to.

you know what i'm saying :winkwink:

I hear what you're saying, but i disagree. Soldiers follow orders. That's what they're conditioned to do. Soldiers (and their families) who disobey orders are in for a world of shit.

I was in the Marines, and we had a huge training area. And the truth is, after a year of training, you pretty much know every last square inch - which completely defeats the purpose of the training.

On top of this, they don't have massive urban training centers. We had "combat town", which was nothing more than a small collection of buildings, but nothing is going to make it more realistic and force them to face real world challenges than doing it in a real urban center.

Well that's some bullshit right there.

Illegal detention = CIA
No US laws broken. US laws don't apply outside the US. I could care less what the CIA does outside the us.

Illegal hits (murders) = FBI/CIA/Presidential Cabinet
Never heard of that before. Whatever. We impeached Nixon, but I'm sure Bush and Obama just orders the FBI to whack American citizens for whatever reasons.

Anti-Protest laws = secret service/presidential cabinet
Are you talking about the laws that protect the President? So I can still protest pretty much any place I want? I"m okay with that.

Phone-taps = can't disclose
Yeah, because that hasn't been going on for the past sixty years. But clearly suddenly it's a huge concern.

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trying to educate those that don't want to be educated is a fool's errand

Yeah, I could see it happening with cops no problem, Military.. lol. no, not so much, a good portion of them would take those "tanks" and go after the cops.

You are also misinformed. Know your history. :2 cents:

Kent State, 1970

And as I posted earlier, new laws have passed allowing US military to hunt down Americans civilians anywhere on earth, and kill them, if need be. If they THINK they have anything to do with terrorism.

Read this: http://news.yahoo.com/obama-lawyers-...154313473.html



See post above.


The CIA admitting to trying to assassinate Fidel Castro on numerous occasions. Sanctioned "hits" are illegal now, so they wrap it under the guise of terrorism, where it's perfectly legal to assassinate boogiemen.

Anwar al-Awlaki was an American. He was an alleged terrorist, but he was American, and they assassinated him, bypassing due process.

Terrorism was invented, and wasn't even a big issue until 9/11. NOW news stations won't shut the fuck up about "terrorism" and it's all bullshit.

You are four times more likely to be killed by a lightning bolt than by a terror attack

http://reason.com/archives/2011/09/0...rrorism-should

I was attacked by wasps last week and that sent me on a "how many people die from bee stings a year" search, and I was happy to learn that lightning kills more than bee stings.

Having said that, I actually met someone who had been struck by lightning. It made one of their eyes go cock-eye.

President Nixon was not impeached.

He would have been if he would not have resigned.

That is not a fact but just your opinion...now isn't it?

Looks like Simon hasn't taken his meds in the last week or two. Why not get the fuck off of GFY and make some more comic books, you fuckin moron.

What's interesting is the DHS ordering 450,000 Hollow-Point bullets - aka COP KILLERS - and enough body bags that there is a body bag for literally every US citizen.

I am not suggesting anything, but read into it what you will. The DHS now has the resources ON-HAND to wipe out virtually all of the US.

Considering that the DHS' job is supposed to be protecting us from outside threats to US sovereignty ... They must be prepping for one hell of an invasion!! :eek2

what do you propose WE do?

That's a historical fact, not my opinion.

I know you're a psychotic dolt, but please try to keep up with American history. I would expect more from someone who claims to have served his country. But then, you did fake your own online death, so all bets are off with you.

You are now dismissed.

Kill whitey! Oh wait, that was another revolution. Kill the lawyers! Wait, that's Shakespeare. Kill everybody! Wait, that's the Taliban! Goddamn, I'm sure there's revoluting coming somewhere. It's either kill the poor people or kill the rich people, I get confused. For sure, get a gun though. Could be the fucking Chinese. We need to kill something though and soon.

Your paranoia and refusal to see the world in its entirety is making you see an enemy in the mirror.

In the event of a financial collapse, the US can put up the middle finger to any other nation that it owes financial debt to. Guess who owns the most US debt and likely would be the primary nation to want to put up a fight over such a development? And take a gander at the size of their army while you're at it.

JHC does it matter what you advertise in this niche or is it just a case of creating topics on blogs and purely making money via AdSense?

China :disgust

I reckon America would win if it came down to a war but looking at history it's unlikely to be one country Vs another. :Oh crap

Massive difference between the CIA "trying" to assassinate the leader of a foreign country forty years ago and "illegal hits" by the FBI.

He was a terrorist.

Being as the United States has no legal authority outside of the United States, and the only way it can stop terrorists from committed acts against the US to take them out - being as we cannot arrest them. The fact that he was a US citizen is pretty much irrelevant because US law does not apply in other countries, and US citizens are not covered under American law.

I don't loose any sleep over what happened to Anwar al-Awlaki.

I just hope that my favorite pornstars are abroad for that time ...

I don't lose sleep over that shit stain either, but US law does follow all Americans abroad. We not only have to abide by local laws in the country we are in, but we also have to abide by American laws and can be prosecuted in teh USA for things done abroad, even if it was legal in the other country, but illegal in the USA. This is another joy of freedom.

Back to Anwar al-Awlaki, we only know he was a terrorist because we were all told he was a terrorist. The Gov and media said he was, so that is that. Now he's dead. The problem is, he did not have due process. What if it was just a big misunderstanding? What if Gov Intel was wrong? They fuck up ALL THE TIME. They are wrong about where terrorist are hiding and we blow up wedding parties and homes. They were wrong about WMD's and we invaded a country who showed no aggression towards us, and we're STILL there murdering people BASED ON MISTAKES AND LIES. So is it plausible that Anwar al-Awlaki wasn't as bad as they say he was? Absolutely. A fair trial may have sorted that out.

The US government ordering the execution of an American, terrorist or not, without due process, is wrong. That is one of the things that used to make America, America. Now that anyone can be labeled a "terrorist" and held without trial indefinitely or executed without due process, that is as un-American as it gets and it shits in the face of everything the USA is supposed to be.

Rochard, I don't know the reasons why you served, but if you buy into the idea that the military is fighting for our freedom, then you have to swallow the fact that you are also fighting for the freedoms and rights of bad Americans like Anwar al-Awlaki, and his right to a fair and speedy trial. It's a sour pill, I know, but such rights should not be conditional based on if you are a patriot or not. It's like freedom of speech, we have to take the bad with the good, even if the bad is horrible and offends us greatly.

I am fully aware of the events and I also am aware of this "the likely prospect of losing the impeachment vote in the full House"...so no one will ever know for a fact that he would have been impeached...now will they sport...so it remains as I stated..."just your opinion".

They will remain in denial until the very end...

The government passes a law saying that U.S. citizens can be indefinitely detained without trial and these clowns think there's nothing weird going on lol..... nothing to see here, carry on with your little sheep lives with your heads in the sand....