i lold :1orglaugh

It's been said by others now, but for the record I was thinking of 'Max Max-type' scenarios rather than natural disasters. They're not uncommon but they do tend to strike the same places over and over. And while they may kill many people, they don't result in the collapse of society as we know it.

And yet some people are constantly talking about unspecified enemies baying for their guns or food or possessions. What kind of disaster or situation would precipitate that?

I was thinking the most likely or plausible 'major disaster' would be something like the Great Depression. But while the economy is down the toilet, I'm not convinced we're going to see the likes of that again. And even that depression didn't result in the complete failure and collapse of the country (Government and rule of law).

And sure, there's the risk of being involved in an unforeseen disaster but I get the impression some people are jacking off while typing out these ideas. You can't live your life shitting yourself about something that might never happen. Stockpiles of guns or canned food aren't much use anyway if your house is underwater or flying around in a twister.

I just don't get the logic that everyone would turn on each other just because of a disaster. Generally in times of crisis the reverse actually happens and people get together and support each other more than they did before.

That's because a movie about a bunch of people working together to rebuild society would be so fucking boring compared to a movie about a bunch of people fighting off hordes of murdering neo-barbarians. Which reminds me, it's about time I rewatch "The Road Warrior".

This show was a good reality about that exact topic.

I think he is.

Sounds like someone slept through American history class.

For starters, I think people watch too many movies and get caught up in some crazy fantasy of living in a broken world, as if it would be a good place to live in. It would take a total national catastrophe of epic proportions for society to totally break down to the point the national guard could not be deployed to keep order. It's not impossible, but highly unlikely. If we get blasted by massive solar flares that knock out our electronics, or suffer from several EMP blasts, or even have a full out war, sure. The worst could happen. But just a currency collapse, I doubt it. You'd have some crazy shit going down as it finally hit people they they are fucked and lost everything, bank runs and all of that, but it would be short lived. As soon as the national guard is deployed, law and order would be restored if it was even really disrupted in the first place.

That doesn't mean it won't be hairy from time to time and people may try to steal what you have out of desperation, but humans generally have a knack for banding together and trying to make it through hard times together. As for Mad Max, unless we're blasted back to the stone ages somehow, I just can't see that happening, nor would I ever want to. Creepy to think anyone would want that sort of existence.

I repeat...when did the USA "collapse"?

Interesting that MORE people have a weird feeling, shit ain't right
 

Is that the film with Mel Gibson fighting the English?


RB is waiting for the English to invade.


So what will be the situation that Looters will start to invade your house?

In a situation like Katrina it's important to get the police and National Guard out to protect householders and to remove guns from everyone else. Leaving guns can turn a bad situation into a worse one. In this situation the Government is the best bet.

Well you're looking at the History the wrong way.

Yes take measures to be prepared for natural disasters in your area, or move somewhere safer. Don't buy a house where they have wild fires, earthquakes, tornadoes, hurricanes or volcano eruptions. It seems a lot of the people who are scared do.

So make sure your home is able to withstand it or you have the provisions to see the disaster out. Common sense. The river here has a very large man made bank to stop it over flowing when the snow on the mountains melts. The Government looking after us.

Doomsday, what is and when will it happen? Give us ideas of what's coming and plans to make sure you'll get through it.

Government take over. Too late, it happened years ago in most places. This year a lot of people will vote for a new President. Either a man for the people or a 1% representative. Has he said how he will cut Government spending and give tax breaks to the rich yet? Buying votes of the rich again.

Yes the World is in the shitter financially. Too many were riding the wave of easy money coming out of the Financial bubble and when it burst, they had no Plan B. They only had shares going down the Tubes.

Every single person on this board will I hope reach the age of 60. IT WILL HAPPEN. So what have they done to prepare for that? I knew it was coming and now have no worries. I didn't sit and plan for some myth I had seen on the TV or at the cinema happening and planned for something that isn't going to happen. Remember I said plan for things that do happen where you live.

Then your best plan is to move.

Then move to a country where you don't live in fear of the Government taking over.

This is my point. If you really want to plan for when the next expected disaster. Just move. If you fear the Government will enslave you, move to a country where freedom is real.

Paul Markham isn't old he's an alien

Well according to some here "Any day soon."

Real planning for coming threats.

Getting out of an industry on a downward spiral. Or making plans to do that.

Invest for your old age.

Stop smoking.

Stop drinking alcohol more than the advised limit.

Do an hour's exercise every day.

If obese, cut your weight.

Don't screw around. STDs are at epidemic levels.

How many of those stocking up with guns and cans of Tuna are doing these things?

Decalcification of the pineal gland fucking hurt. :2 cents:

JohnnyClips so what's the conspiracy that worries you the most and what are you doing to protect yourself from it?

I don't know about you, but I will do the same thing as if I caught a burglar in my house tonight, I'd shoot him.


The problem is, they don't take the guns away from criminals. So the bad guys always have guns, the good guys do not. How do you think that plays out?


Paul, you are not seeing the larger picture that your government, and you, are dependent on the outside world. It is much more complex that building your house in the right area.

What does your country import? How much of everything you buy is imported? Where does your water come from? Where does your power come from? Where does your hospitals get their medicine? Where does your animal feed come from? Where does your country buy oil from? This list is huge. If you have experienced a real disaster you would not be saying the things you are, because it goes WAY beyond not building your home in the middle of tornado alley. The distribution chain is everything. If that breaks down, everything breaks down. And you have to look at both local and country wide distribution chains. Just because it can get into your country doesn't mean it can reach you.

Your government looks out for you to a degree. But unless your country is 100% self sufficient (they are not), then you will live and die by the rise and fall of other nations and their disasters.

Disaster happen all over the world and they happen without notice. Once you figure out where everything you NEED to survive comes from, from your medicine, to your power, to the spare parts in the ER room at the hospital, then you can come back and say you have nothing to worry about if everything you need is produced locally.

That doesn't mean you have to live in fear, that would be stupid. But it means you shouldn't be so trustful that you're ass is covered 100%. Because in every disaster, there are those who make it through, and those who become statistics. Which one you will be is a mix of luck and preparation.

Right, because it is impossible for distribution chains to break down anywhere else in the world. It only happens where yellow and brown people live.

I repeat... Sounds like someone slept through American history class.

You're one of those people who think dinosaurs were put on earth to test your faith in God, aren't you?

Only needs one gun for that.

Everyone has guns and it becomes a war zone.


And how do you prepare for that?

So for a week for a couple it's 26 litres a week. 780 for a month. How much have you got stored?

Won't even go into the other stuff.

Happens in Thailand, where do you live?

And what are you doing to prepare for the things that are very likely to happen? As I pointed out previously.

The reason you will not answer the question is because you cannot...as the USA has never "collapsed". You of course know that...but you preferred to spread misinformation... as usual. As to your question...no.

I thought he meant what situation would have to occur for looters to attack your house.

For instance? There was a disaster in your part of the world last year. Apparently the price of hard drives went up. Hardly the apocalypse, was it.

They don't just happen randomly across the world though, some areas are clearly more disaster prone than others.

So what are you saying? Stockpile every type of everything you might conceivably need that is produced in another country, just in case those other countries might collapse? It's just a false sense of security, based on a false premise, like people who delude themselves that their AR-15 is the only thing stopping the Government's jackboot kicking in their door.

No, it just happens significantly more often where yellow and brown happen to people live.

What you're saying might make sense where you are, where natural disasters and poor infrastructure are a way of life. But for people in parts of the world where disasters rarely if ever occur, then it makes no sense at all to live your life as if a crisis is just around the corner.

I don't know about today, but they were in Hitler's day, when he consumed Czechoslovakia's Skoda arms.

FUCK dude have you looked around??? Geezus what do you define as "collapse" I know at least 50 people in foreclosure, bankruptcy, food stamps.. debt out the ass w/ no employment in sight...towns are bankrupt, empty..homeless rising to biblical rates...now with the hottest summer ever recorded 32 states filed for GOV. relief because of drought killing the crops... oh my oh my watch food prices soar next year as gas prices start to climb as well... has the US collapsed??? Go outside downtown in your state and ask the vet sleeping in a box or the family in the shelter...

you need to talk to people who lived through the 70's...this is nothing new.

You just summed up pretty much every conspiracy nut on the net. I'm willing to bet the Alien overlords are already on to their plans to inform the masses by posting on message boards and use mind control to make them all do and act the same way.

This is to of course a tactic devised by the Jewish bankers, whom support the Alien overlords by trying to hide the truth from the rest of us. As such every time these conspiracy theorist post on the the internet, about the secrets they have uncovered, they are in fact just doing the bidding of the Jewish bankers, whom support the evil alien overlords.

Things that make you go hummmmmm..

There are two types of people who don't believe in conspiracies...

The first are naive imbeciles.

The second are the conspirators themselves.

You are clearly the former.

Here's a video to keep Paul Markham and Johnny Clips busy

btw, that last post was directed to you Paul, in case you did not realize which imbecile I was speaking to...

Paul Markham rules the world

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.n...78110519_n.jpg

THIS IS AMERICA!!!!

NO???...think again.. chief

You are not only a nut case but also have a major problem comprehending what you read...now don't you.

I'm not into conspiracies, but I do worry about power grid failures from CME's. I have been watching solar flare activity and even NASA and the experts agree that we are going deeper into stronger than normal period of solar activity. Yes I know it's 11 year cycles but this max is more than most and we are not even fully in it yet. When the shit hits the fan I will be eating fresh fried eggs for breakfast every day while the rest of you guys forage for bugs to chew on.

This is all so pointless here lol, why even bother?

I never said that. My point is what are you doing about them?

So America collapsed and you all now live in some world like Mad Max.

http://neorevivalist.files.wordpress...cket-front.jpg

Or would it be the Depression years?

http://youthvoices.net/sites/default...epression2.jpg

So where was this picture taken?

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.luxist.co...1/72780479.jpg

The times are tough, still no shit has hit any fan yet.

Paul, have you even been to America? Those are the propaganda images from the fake cities. This is the real America, that only Americans can see:
http://www.csub.edu/library/images/dustbowl.jpg

Choker, you can rest easy.
re: the current cycle, or Solar Cycle 24.

"NASA predicts that solar cycle 24 will peak in early or mid 2013 with about 59 sunspots. This would make it the least active cycle in the past one hundred years."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_cycle_24

Some parts of America will never collapse.

http://dba-oracle.com/images/red_neck_car.jpg

Been there many times.

American's understanding of "shit hitting the fan" = Can't afford to buy a 60 inch 3D TV, for the kids. :1orglaugh

HS, even seen guys like this. Was at a Webmasters convention. :1orglaugh

I totally agree

better off on sites like abovetopsecret where people buy into whatever is thrown at them by alternative media and questionable sources rather than those who buy into whatever is thrown at them by mainstream media and questionable sources....:winkwink:

that's a good movie from the paul markham's years...

"we don't need an other heroe"
that's right, we have paul

Funny you should say that, seeing as you posted here.

This is it...the doom of all DOOM! :1orglaugh

http://gifs.gifbin.com/052010/127296...eck-crying.gif

The reason for this thread was to get an insight into their thinking. As you see none have a coherent argument other than "Be scared." Not sure what we should be scared of though.

Conspiracies happen. A President was brought down by one. Or was that a scandal?

The other point was none of the pussies who know what they're scared, are doing fuck all about it that will work.

Natural Disasters that can be expected not included in the above.

:1orglaugh

And lots of people are taking it seriously :Oh crap We need lots of buckets of cold water

That's well said there JC, the government wants us scared of Swine Flu, Bird Flu, Terrorists, whereas the conspiracy theorists say that all those things are an inside job, which the non-conspiracy types find even more scary :2 cents:

Go back and read about how many times the US Government has built up fears for you.

Black Swan ;)