LA County Health has a direct pipeline into the industy's testing resources and announced the additional cases. I'd be surprised if AHF isn't also working the info to their best advantage.

The FSC has only worked to mitigate the damage caused by others in my opinion.

what it means is the FSC, Manwin, CET and APHSS FUCKED UP

Thanks you fucking disgraceful morons...you just handed AHF that condom referendum they wanted...

If you guys didn't have feet you couldn't shoot anything....

You don't think LA County Health and AHF are already using the information to their advantage? FSC is working to mitigate the damage to our industry caused by others in my opinion.

If the FSC didn't announce that they realized there was a problem, that they had a plan to solve the problem, and the solution was undertaken by the industry, the situation would be much worse. It would look like we were ignoring the problem, had no plan, and were doing nothing about it.

Now, how would that benefit the adult entertainment industry?

Despite you guys spin to the contrary pretty much everyone in porn outside the FSC can clearly see that the FSC IS the PROBLEM NOT the solution.

You guys need to clean house, stop letting fabian pull your strings, and stick to what you know

Im not sure what it is you know but it clearly isnt testing, anti-piracy, or pro industry lobbying.

You do have a pretty good grip on how to sell us out though..

How much, or what percentage of each test, is contributed/paid to the FSC and APHSS for their "database" service?

In other words, what is the FSC and APHSS getting as a payout per person, for not being in the testing business, and simply for assisting with the database, if that is the extent of what they are doing for their share of the quasi-mandatory testing loot?

ADG

Now you are insulting the industry. Were there were not studios that stopped production and called for others to do so before FSC advised the same?

Two quick things here:

1. Any publicity that comes from this may hurt this Industry but needs to happen because so many performers are escorting these days that this outbreak could enter the "general population". It's already international, with cases in Hungary, Czech Republic, Italy, Russia and more.

2. We have photos of Mr. Marcus' infected dick that date back to MARCH 2012. So do the math...

3. What "Industry"?

Okay that was 3 things....:)

I disagree that it "needs to happen"

"Performers" always have escorted. THEY are the only ones who needed to be told in a discreet manner so they could see a doctor and make sure that they are not infected.

Trust me...strippers and hookers have ALWAYS been the cleanest girls (in general) because they make their money with their pussy and keep it clean. Way before the internet, and way before the FSC ever decided that "press releases" were a good idea when discussing this kind of thing.

Discretion should have and should BE used. Even RedRob starting this thread with that title is fucking dumb and hurts our industry.
This thread wasn't necessary in any way except to try and keep the FSC in the limelight.

They were pretty ineffectual in doing what they were supposed to do in the beginning of the FSC.

Then the last couple of years...they decided to be THE experts on an anti-piracy solution without any prior experience...AND locking out the people who are experts.
And we see how good that worked out..it FAILED miserably.

So now they are going into the testing business. :disgust

It would be funny if they weren't stomping around like bulls in a china shop and fucking everything up with their "press releases".

Hey FSC: How about instead of pretending to be a testing center...how about actually getting some FSC attorneys together and fighting the goddamn condom law and being SUCCESSFUL at it instead of failing?
You know...what the FSC is actually SUPPOSED to be doing.

As I said before, the FSC does not operate a testing center or pretend to be one.

In that case..STOP making pronouncements on behalf of an industry that none of you are even a part of.

Rob, what you guys are doing is wrong. I can see it. Everyone who is actually IN this business can see it. Hell, even Stevie Wonder called me on the phone and said he can see it! lol

Just stop. Nobody asked for the FSC's help, except maybe to fight the condom law in court where the FSC belongs.

Fitty sad state of affairs :2 cents:

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Does FSC get a percentage or fee on every APHSS test transaction? How much per transaction does the FSC make, or what percentage of the testing fee is actually for the FSC database fee?

How much annually is the FSC making (projected to make) from it's APHSS HIV/STD testing "database" service, and what is the money being used for?

ADG

why in the hell is the FSC involved with model testing. is it their way of adapt or dieing? did porn revenues dry up for them so now they have to branch off into other things to try to make money? what next getting jobs at the 7-11 ?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Marcus told me that the guy at TTS who (allegedly) gave him the altered test was subsequently fired by TTS. Can you confirm that?

didnt happen TTS didnt fake a test and nobody there has been fired....I know that the FSC wants you to believe that nonsense but it is exactly that...nonsense.

I think the fake test does exist and it is up to Mr. Marcus whether or not to release the test as it is his personal medical records.

You, as a group, have given him so much bullshit for coming forward and admitting his mistakes, why should he do anything......? I think it takes a big man to admit their mistakes and own up to them. A much bigger man than a blogger on a rant.

The other positive performers are still lurking in the shadows and nobody has criticized them for not stepping forward. Seems to me to be a bit of a double standard for testing positive to me.

Seems to me you just want to bash the FSC as always.

Just my opinion.

1) If that fake test does exist then why did he use a different altered test?

2) TTS owner unequivocally stated that it's impossible to generate such a test on their system. The software won't allow it.

3) Mister Marcus' honesty is questionable at best, and no one other than him claims to have seen that fake test.

Bottom line, your personal bias is once again affecting your judgement.

Rob, Mike South was shooting porn looooonnnnngggg before Mr Marcus ever got in this business. Unlike you and the rest of the folks at the FSC, Mike has been in the porn business a long time, shooting, starring in, directing, and editing his own videos.
I've known him since the mid 1990's and he was already a well established porn director at that time.

He isn't just a "blogger". He's an actual veteran of the porn biz whose opinion is far more qualified than yours.

I don't know why you're in full "shill" mode for the FSC. But you're making it worse and you are personally looking really, really bad on here spreading rumors.

The FACTS are that Mr. Marcus has changed his story COMPLETELY and it's documented that he did so on several different occasions.

My good advice to you would be to shut up about this before you find yourself on the wrong end of a lawsuit from TTS. You should be dealing with facts. And you really don't know the facts. I'd be real careful if I were you.

I especially wouldn't count on the FSC to defend you in court if TTS gets tired of your accusations. The FSC doesn't exactly have a very good record when it comes to winning court cases.

Instead of making yourself look bad like this...best thing is to just back off. All of your efforts have made the FSC look worse and worse.

Hell, if I were Fabian..I'd go ahead and drop the FSC "testing" company and go buy out TTS. At least they have a good reputation and years of experience. As usual, the FSC is shooting itself in the foot at every turn.

such bullshit... didn't you share an office with him during the jim south days?? Surely you would know if he was talking out of his infected ass or not.

I'll take TTS's word over Marcus's any day of the week.

Redrob, Marcus spoke up because his ass was against a wall and FSC were the only ones willing to hold his hand ( and use it to their advantage in the testing wars against TTS).

All you standing in line to support him, calling him a big man and buying him lunches should be ashamed.

It seems that the FSC is so desperate for relevancy in SOME field that they have absolutely no shame. They don't mind destroying the entire industry in LA with their incessant "press releases", and they don't mind using an STD that is easily curable and a guy who lied his ass off after forging his test to try and leverage their position.

It is shameful. But I doubt that they will see it through their desperation.

As I said earlier...when the FSC through it's grandstanding manages to help drive the industry out of Los Angeles...then a lot of the people at the FSC will be working at McDonald's. They will have effectively destroyed the golden goose that's kept them fed for the last decade.

man, i am sure happy that over here testing business is not a political issue.

this TTS/APHSS thing is kindergarten at its best while the health of real human people is at stake.

just my two euro cent

To sum up:

While there has always been escorting in porn the amount and frequency these days FAR exceeds whatever percentage was 'always doing it". And Robbie, to say strippers and whores have the cleanest pussies.....man, the smell of vinegar on some sets is overwhelming! Clean? Yah, you can stick your dick in them, not me....

Keeping things quiet hurts this Industry because it allows scumbags to continue to fuck up, cause shit that harms many others, etc etc. NO Industry can "police themselves". Porn should be regulated as it is in Europe, and so should prostitution, and stripping...but of course they won't be because America is run by and consists of overaged children. Snickerdoodle.

So is it a bad thing or a good thing if this gets tons of publicity in the mainstream press? I think both - bad at first but ultimately good because it will force higher standards in the adult biz.

Yep, higher standards. Marcus will shoot glam with a 5D M3 while he infects the next generation

He'll avoid answering those questions and then a little while later say that he thinks TTS gave the guy a falsified test.

That's true both sides of the Atlantic now :2 cents:

Brother you are free to believe what you will. I know better. I was involved in the offline adult industry in one way or another since 1978. Lived with girls who were escorts and strippers and feature dancers. And ran in their circles up until this very day.

From Florida to Michigan to Mississippi to L.A. and Vegas....strippers and escorts were and are some of the cleanest girls in every way. Good hygiene and frequent visits to their OBGYN

Thanks Robbie I appreciate your words brudda.

Im also happy that most of the people in porn aren't falling for this FSC nonsense...there is a very real movement to gut that org and fire Diane Duke and it has some VERY powerful supporters...as it should.

Im also happy that less than 1/3 or eligible performers went and got that shot, the rest opting instead to take it up with their own doctors.

Im not sure what redrob did before he came on here pimping the FSC, Ive never seen anything else that I recall but dude whatever it was you should return to it.

Redrob, any reason why you are avoiding my questions?

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I'm just curious what, if any, vested money interests the FSC has in the APHSS, if so, approximately how much they are making (or what flat fee/percentage) from each test, and what that money is buying, besides PR for FSC/APHSS/Manwin?

I figured that since I am asking a question about facts, instead of speculation, that you would have a simple straightforward answer.

ADG

I think Fabi need to "bone up" on syphilis. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...3/?tool=pubmed

:2 cents:

Oh I agree that for years sex workers had cleaner pussies (man what a topic LOL), considering they used their pussies as their money-makers.

But today I've heard tales of girls showing up after doing a shoot for another shoot without cleaning the cooze (sloppy seconds anyone?), male talent going from set to set and just wiping their dick off in-between. The smell of vinegar (meaning these girls dousche/over-dousche) is almost toxic. If their pussies were truly clean they wouldn't need to dousche....

I know there are many performers who take thier own health and the health of their co-workers seriously. MILFs tend to be wiser and saner about body fluids and diseases than girls under 25. But it's the youngin's, the newbs, the weaker souls who do this out of desperation who need saving from themselves (and the rest of us).

You're incorrect--I shared an office with Jim South for about 3.5 years; Marcus rented the adjacent office. And yes, I have a very strong opinion about the veracity of Marcus' story.

Not trying to avoid the question, I just don't know the answer. I'm confident the FSC is paid something from the tests in order to meet the overhead of operating the database. I'm not sure the APHSS is breaking even on its overhead to date.

I'll ask and see what I can find out.

Sorry for the slow reply; but, the wife took me out for a burger.

LOL Proof there IS life outside of porn!! :)
:thumbsup:thumbsup

What about the person at TTS who helped Marcus? Marcus told Jim South and me that person had been fired by TTS--can you confirm that?

Redrob has no connection with TTS so why ask him? Sixto from TTS categorically denies it's even possible to print such a fake on their system, see quote below from interview with Mike South.

Mike, a blogger, and two webmasters.....with one in Thailand do not make "VERY powerful supporters"; and, certainly not a movement.

Give me some names or, as far as I am concerned, you are just ranting again.:angrysoap

I've been in this business since 1973 when most of you were still a twinkle in Daddy's eye or at best still shitting your britches. You'd probably be surprised by most of my opinions.:winkwink:

You got me by 5 years.

So WHAT have you done in this business Rob?

Did you shoot porn? Run a strip club? Work with escorts? Own a bookstore?

I have nothing against you personally. But I'm unaware of what you do. I KNOW Mike is a real pro in this business.

What video series did you produce?

Names you are a lot dumber than I am if you think I would do that....but lets just say theres a reason I knew about yalls press conferences with Marcus that you kept delaying, theres a reason he contacted me before avn and xbiz got those stories out and theres a reason I knew that avn and xbiz were releasing the interviews simultaneously and that reason wasnt Richard like you idiots think. It isnt by accident that i know that the FSC planted that TTS bullshit either....Or that APHSS is being investigated by authorities.

I look forward to the day that Fabian gets to do a perp walk....

Indeed you do.

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