Email on the way.

If you can afford it effortfully and financially, go with both CCBill and NATS.

Man I feel your pain dude, been there done that got a few t-shirts for it

no im also impressed

Shane id you open a pps program...all access site..or whatever let me know

Yea reason I posted in here, you don't find many if any people like Shane.. I would push anything he releases now! Just my :2 cents:

how should I know what I am owed if nats is not working?

I saw many people who close up shop and don't pay, I called him that day as well, he told me to fuck off and he doesn't owe me shit.

a normal stand up guy would pay from the start and not open a gfy thread and ask for anyone who didnt get paid to contact him, it's not like he doesnt have the right info. He has everything, but when starting such gfy thread, at least %50 of people owed money wont contact him.

Show me a pretty girl and I'll show you some poor bugger is sick of her shit.


Dave

On the liquor license stuff, simply go through a broker, or do a rent to own deal, plenty of people with 4COP liquor licenses across the country that are not using them other than for an income stream.

AmLex.com is a good place to start, or go with a food & beverage license, it's $2500 a year but you have to have some creative accounting in place to meet the typical 51/49 split of food and beverages.

50 schizos

EDIT: beat me to it :winkwink:

:error50 payments

where we can check status of our rebills and payment history?
or you have in mind to forgive them to us since the program was closed ? ;)

Shimmy dude you are totally fucked up for posting a picture like that.
Douchebag.

He admits that he can't get a job where he is, but can't leave because of his kids. He's the "porn guy" in a conservative town. The guys stuck. Unlike a newbie however, he doesn't have to start from scratch because he's sitting on what was once a very valuable asset. What would be easier to do today? Repair the reputation of a once well converting site and throw it open again to affiliates who are desperate for a known converter in a declining industry or build a new site with no reputation and have it get lost in the 100 new sites that opened yesterday? I'm gonna guess the former.

That he's paying back people is probably proof that he could make a decent living with the traffic he currently has, but knowing (or hoping) that affiliates could send a lot more traffic than he currently has, why not suck it up anonymously online for a while to get a few affiliates back?

Alarm bells should go off if he doesn't offer ccbill as an option for his new site. "Fuck me once, shame on you. Fuck me twice, shame on me." Some of you aren't going to have anyone to blame next time around except yourselves.

Good on you Shane to be a SUG. Sucks about the whole story of the bitch blowing the money. Seems a common one.

Hope you get back on your feet and Hustle to do well.

Like sandman said, you could still milk this with the right partner or sell the entire business to someone who could exploit what is left as much as possible.

Good Luck and Keep your Head High!!!

Shane, that is the right thing to do. Props to you

A paid freeones endorsement :thumbsup He's got families to feed.

Would be nice if he'd let us log to see what we are owed.

http://www.melissamoney.com/external.php?page=access

whwere can I order your music Melissa?

That's not necessary. Send him an email and he'll TELL you what you're owed. There's no reason to believe he wouldn't tell you the truth.

NOT GOOD JOKE. :mad:

ROFL. His NATS is clearly still operating as the affiliate links are still working and redirecting properly. If this guy is serious he should let us back in.

I am not sure if you were the one that called me or not but someone did yes! They called my with threats and curse words when I was already in a very tough time in my life. I am not sure if this was you again but if it was and you got that call at that moment you may have dealt with it similar as well. I am not sure again if that was you but I am far from perfect sir...

My info shows I paid everyone owned any large ammounts of money! What I am not sure about is people who were owed $25-$125.

I wish it was that easy, they pretty much make there own laws and rules here just for me! They even admitted what they are doing to me is possibly illegal but they don't care. They also reminded me they have plenty of money to fight me as long as they want and I WILL NEVER OPEN ANYTHING IN NEBRASKA IF THEY HAVE ANY SAY IN IT?. I have email from the police chief that his job is to protect the citizens of Lincoln from people like me, all because I did an adult website with me ex wife.

Yea that's not happening lol but nice try, she is 31 years old now and lives at church not happening...

In church now, but living with a boyfriend? And in the Midwest? What kind of church is it?

Nope I am also..
I feel bad for them both. I know you guys were so public and it got you a ton of traffic and sales but now you are for ever know as "porn guy"

Ok so I am paying the few people who missed getting there checks as we were closing the program! YES there were some rebills over time even a few now but very little. We had went months and months without updating the site as I had planned on closing it down so 95% of the members cancelled. I am not sure I will be paying out those few rebills that came in over the the last however many months most had like 1 rebill at best so I owe $10-$15. I am not trying to be rude or greedy! I will though pay anyone that is owed money up till we shut down. I will review the rebills and make that decision after the last few people are caught up, one thing at a time please.

The site gets like a couple thousand people a day, almost everyone removed links and stopped sending traffic right away when we shut down. Melissa's name is big enough to get a few thousand people a day but that's nothing. Some months lately I don't even hardly make enough to cover NATS, Servers and what not. Some days we are lucky to get a sale or 2 and even then a lot are $1 trials. I started mailing our members list so I could make enough to try and get things going again. I never said this is perfect but I am trying to do what I can at this point. I will pay all who missed getting checks as we were closing down. I am not asking you to love me or the situation, it's far from perfect I agree but I am trying. I have not decided yet if I am going to keep NATS or switch to CCBILL only so people know they will get paid from here on out since trust will be a big issue.

Looks to me as if somebody never planned on paying but is paying people now because they want something (to get back into the biz)

How is that the right thing to do, hes doing it to meet his agenda. Hes not doing it for you guys.

How is this any different than borrowing money off a friend, never paying them back, laughing about it, then needing a ride to the doctor and realizing that person is the only person who can help you so you pay him just to get to the doctor. Years later.

You do realize paying people back doesn't change that you stole from them. Unless they had no hidden agenda (and were stirctly doing it because they felt bad), then i could understand forgiving. But I notice in the last thread, he mentioned that he hopes people continue promoting or something like that, and also mutt just mentioned that he has a new model?

People here are idiots and forget real quick. No wonder so many people in this industry get burned

email sent.

Thats rubbish.

Lease a 4COP license and your name isn't even on it... If you want to open a bar / club badly enough you find a way to do it.

nice :1orglaugh

You sound skeptical of his motives. SHAME on you for not forgetting the past and being so cynical.

I have met with 4 different lawyers! You fail to understand Lincoln is not like any other place. It's like that crazy place out of the movies that you think to yourself that can't really be a real place. A group of about 20 people control everything here and they can stop you from getting anything they want. Here they have city ordnances that they pass to supersede all the state and federal laws. I did have a lawyer that said if I had a million dollars he would be willing to take it to the federal level and even maybe supreme court if needed but I don't have that kind of money nor do I have 3-5 years to fight it that he said it would take. It's not worth that to me but yes what they are doing it illegal but they don't care and at the end of the day I am the porn guy nobody cares...

ROFL :1orglaugh