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JFK 01-03-2013 06:09 PM

Fitty Motherless threads:pimp

Diomed 01-03-2013 07:01 PM

I was redirected there for the first time last week.. I didn't see anything illegal but there was definitely some gross underage girls in skimpy clothes.. That shouldn't be legal.

dgraves 01-03-2013 10:09 PM

When I say "illegal", I'm referring to using stolen content to sell ads.

Those who cannot create, steal!

dgraves 01-03-2013 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JFK (Post 19407301)
Fitty Motherless threads:pimp

There will be lots more because I'll bump this thread every time I have to submit a DMCA to Motherless. I know how much Mr. Josh Lange likes to get traffic regardless of the method.

BFT3K 01-03-2013 10:15 PM

http://www.fetishsoup.com/GFY/BeforeAfterCat.jpg

dgraves 01-03-2013 10:17 PM

Nice work Josh!

http://newswire.xbiz.com/view.php?id=136474

LeRoy 01-03-2013 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19407578)


:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

dgraves 01-03-2013 11:22 PM

You would think that after getting sued several times for doing something you know is wrong, you would find something else to do for a living.

adultmobile 01-03-2013 11:22 PM

Motherless' operator, Joshua Lange, and 20 John Does, presumably advertising business partners, also were named to the suit filed at U.S. District Court at Los Angeles

-> john does... all adult programs, could be any of us

dgraves 01-03-2013 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 19407653)
Motherless' operator, Joshua Lange, and 20 John Does, presumably advertising business partners, also were named to the suit filed at U.S. District Court at Los Angeles

-> john does... all adult programs, could be any of us

It might be the gang from Jersey Shore! Fake tan isn't cheap these days.

PornDiscounts-V 01-04-2013 04:55 AM

If Motherless thought the heat was on last week he is in for a shocker this year.

AdultKing 01-04-2013 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vvvvv (Post 19407876)
If Motherless thought the heat was on last week he is in for a shocker this year.

:2 cents:

adultmobile 01-04-2013 08:04 AM

I still think motherless is not so especially bad, compared to the average tube, regarding copyright or questionable content.
It got several dog and horse sex or scat videos, some young looking gurl, but that's quite common to so many tubes, check nonktube.com , videarn.com just to list a couple, but I could list dozens or hundreds, so what's all this crucifixion of motherless now that's hypocritical and by the way the site is there from years.

imagearn 01-04-2013 08:54 AM

Commercial content is banned on videarn, if you see any then it should be reported to be removed. We're already setting up agreements with many copyright holders to upload / promote their content.

You can ask many copyright holders and removal services that we work with that they get a response and content removed in less than 24hrs (usually 1-2hrs) as well as it being banned. We also actively seek out content on a continued basis to be removed.

On top of all this we have an MD5 database of banned content which we're looking to share with agencies to combat bad content as well digital finger-printing we're developing in-house which is a lot more reliable than MD5...

So... Please do not try and tar us with the same brush as motherless!

Thank you.

AdultKing 01-04-2013 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by imagearn (Post 19408180)
On top of all this we have an MD5 database of banned content which we're looking to share with agencies to combat bad content as well digital finger-printing we're developing in-house which is a lot more reliable than MD5...

We could put that database to use right away. If you'd be so kind as to email us details enforcement (at) copycontrol.org

imagearn 01-04-2013 10:19 AM

Mailing you now with info / database.

dgraves 01-04-2013 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imagearn (Post 19408180)
Commercial content is banned on videarn, if you see any then it should be reported to be removed. We're already setting up agreements with many copyright holders to upload / promote their content.

You can ask many copyright holders and removal services that we work with that they get a response and content removed in less than 24hrs (usually 1-2hrs) as well as it being banned. We also actively seek out content on a continued basis to be removed.

On top of all this we have an MD5 database of banned content which we're looking to share with agencies to combat bad content as well digital finger-printing we're developing in-house which is a lot more reliable than MD5...

So... Please do not try and tar us with the same brush as motherless!

Thank you.

Sounds like a good system.

adultmobile 01-04-2013 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imagearn (Post 19408180)
Commercial content is banned on videarn
So... Please do not try and tar us with the same brush as motherless!

Well I wanted to kick the discussion, just throw there a few other tubes and see, are these all so better than motherless... if that's it, well, nice to hear.

Let me throw some more.. it is fully random really, for example vid2c:

http://www.vid2c.com/videos?o=mv

I see there a 25 minutes long naughty america clip online from 1376 days, and a brazzers one 28 minutes from 1201 days, unsure that's authorised promo clips?
The site is full of ads from streamate, xlovecam and the exoclick thing (I even advertised in vid2c via exoclick, not shy to tell it here, was I a criminal?).

Let me see another one:

http://www.eroprofile.com/m/videos/popular/month

Clips there seems not amateur but also too long to be promos, I may be wrong.

Now these 2 can write a post here, and I throw other 2, and so on we continue until 2014... just saying.

adultmobile 01-04-2013 11:25 AM

Ok let me be more clear what's my point: I am not a copyright holder, and copied content does not affect my business, I think. I am an advertiser, I buy $xx,000 per month of traffic for cam site. So as part of my job, I contacted all the tubes, include motherless, videarn, and those I did not emailed/ICQ directly I dealt via exoclick, trafficjunky, trafficholder, trafficshop, plugrush and so on, I got account in every one broker. Advertised for a while everywhere, include pornhub, xvideos, xhamster and so on, like every other cam program I know of - just with less budget.
So my point it is, when I go to buy in a traffic broker, they have no any indication I am buying from pirate video page or from legitimate video page, that's all togehter. Also when I go to make direct deals with a site, I am not supposed to browse pages of videos and to recognise what is copyrighted and what not, or the age of girls is over 18, or there is no scat dog sex while rape an horse. I barely can follow the buy of links and check stats for conversion.
But then I see site X been sued, and there 20 john does (the advertisers) included in the list of bad guys. Now there is 2 layers before of the final advertiser john doe: 1) the site, who hosts the bad thing and should remove it, and 2) the broker ad network, who display my banner in the bad page when I choice "US traffic" and runs on whole network, even I wanted to skip a bad site I knew, I should try blacklist filters or complicated things like that, and still how I know 1000 site domain names... in other thread I posted a whole dozen of file locker hosted dvd rips that was (and still are) in skim traffic broker network I use often.
So you see my point, as a buyer of ads, there's no any way to know you buy on legit or illegal pages, unless you do a super research yourself which you have no time to do and anyway it seems even the most experts out there in GFY don't provide as a list.
Would AK / stopfilelocker or other entity make a list of good and bad tubes/skim domains, updated weekly, and ad networks provide this as pre-made whitelist/blacklist filter, we as advertisers could select "Only legal sites" or "All, include illegal", would save us time and be in john doe accused lists.
PS: I never advertised on torrent sites like piratebay... this is easy to skip (but lots cam ads there... not ours)

dgraves 01-04-2013 11:57 AM

Theft is theft and it doesn't matter where in the chain you are.

People who don't produce content never understand this part and they just assume it's ok because everyone else is doing it.

Can you imagine what this world would be like if all thieves just got a warning or were just told to put the product back after stealing it? That's essentially what DMCA is. It's not even a slap on the wrist. For that matter, it's not even a warning because they aren't registered anywhere to be compiled.

People who steal are greedy and the best way to punish greedy people is to hit them where it hurts the most, in the wallet.

PornMD 01-04-2013 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19406879)
Oh, I see the deal now. Josh has a PornMD search field on his tube and PornMD is owned by Manwin. I was wondering how he could get Eric to pull his info.

Wow...I should sell my username to them. I only use this name because I used to have Porn.md.

adultmobile 01-04-2013 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19408611)
Theft is theft and it doesn't matter where in the chain you are.

People who don't produce content never understand this part and they just assume it's ok because everyone else is doing it.

One could answer: people who don't buy adverts, never understand it is not always easy to figure the traffic you buy comes from theft or not.

dgraves 01-04-2013 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 19408717)
One could answer: people who don't buy adverts, never understand it is not always easy to figure the traffic you buy comes from theft or not.

True. If you don't know then that's completely different than someone who owns a tube and claims to not know what's on it.

It's the whole "it wasn't me" reply that gets me. Of course I know it wasn't Josh that uploaded my videos. He pays upload monkeys from some shit bag third world country to do that. I wouldn't expect a lazy thief to do much of anything.

dgraves 01-04-2013 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornMD (Post 19408641)
Wow...I should sell my username to them. I only use this name because I used to have Porn.md.

They might just take it from you.

Gator 01-04-2013 02:02 PM

The idiot is even using an unlicensed copy of JW Player. Might as well steal from everyone I guess.

dgraves 01-04-2013 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gator (Post 19408849)
The idiot is even using an unlicensed copy of JW Player. Might as well steal from everyone I guess.

LOL, good eye! How lame can one person be?

I bet Longtail wouldn't be too happy about that but then again they might not care because it's watermarked.

dgraves 01-06-2013 11:13 PM

All I have to say is "You mess with the bull, you get the horns".

dgraves 01-12-2013 12:51 AM

Hey Josh Lange, I just wanted bump your favorite thread to let you know I submitted another DMCA for another one of my stolen videos. I noticed that the uploaders are still active on your site despite the numerous DMCA's submitted. Nice work of preventing further copyright issues.

You'll be happy to know that they are talking about passing the "It wasn't me" law that protects people who want to help others commit crimes but don't want to take responsibility for them. This new law will even over-ride DNA evidence. Regardless of the crime, all you have to say is "It wasn't me" and bam...you're off the hook and back in business! Cool huh!

dgraves 01-12-2013 01:12 AM

Add another 3 stolen videos to that but don't worry, you're still protected under DMCA as well as "It wasn't me" regardless of the quantity so you're good buddy.

You have a lot of content there and it's getting to be time consuming sifting through all the stolen videos but I think I got all my recent ones.

WOODYWOODXXX 01-12-2013 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fungus (Post 19399192)
Huh????????????

I BANGED CLAUDIA-MARIE!:thumbsup

dgraves 01-14-2013 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WOODYWOODXXX (Post 19421387)
I BANGED CLAUDIA-MARIE!:thumbsup

Does she know?

Supz 01-14-2013 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JimmyStephans (Post 19399438)
Looks like that is correct name:

http://www.copyright.gov/onlinesp/ag...motherless.pdf

Notice the registration is just a few months old.

http://www.spokeo.com/Fingerboard+Rd...1//25190834071

pornguy 01-14-2013 02:21 PM

Hostname motherless.com ISP NTT America, Inc. (AS2914)
Continent North America Flag US
Country United States Country Code US (USA)
Region Texas Local time* 14 Jan 2013 15:19
Metropolis* Houston Postal Code 77002
City Houston Latitude 29.752
IP Address 198.64.4.17 Longitude -95.367

pornguy 01-14-2013 02:22 PM

Send an email to the news paper in Houston and let them know about the massive porn site with stolen content being hosted in their city.

See what happens.

Supz 01-14-2013 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19408611)

People who don't produce content never understand this part and they just assume it's ok because everyone else is doing it.

Most retarded thing in this thread....

dgraves 01-14-2013 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supz (Post 19424781)
Most retarded thing in this thread....

You thieves don't like that huh? Looks like I hit a nerve.

rowan 01-14-2013 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 19424774)
Send an email to the news paper in Houston and let them know about the massive porn site with stolen content being hosted in their city.

See what happens.

Trying to point out a specific bad apple in the adult industry is just likely to tarnish our general rep even further.

dgraves 01-14-2013 05:00 PM

I doubt anyone cares. The only people that care about content theft are the producers. Everyone else thinks it's great and free game.

nikki99 01-18-2013 05:57 AM

why they take so long removing?

Roald 01-18-2013 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19424892)
You thieves don't like that huh? Looks like I hit a nerve.

I think what he means is that not everybody whos not producing thinks like that ;)

PS: https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1096747

:winkwink:

petitelover 01-22-2013 03:02 PM

This site should be shut down, but they are slowly filtering there content more and more. We will see where this is in a few years.

dgraves 01-22-2013 03:05 PM

I haven't seen any of my full-length clips lately so we'll see.

Emil 01-22-2013 03:37 PM

Maybe papayas will help?

http://blog.oregonlive.com/foodday_i.../04/papaya.JPG

Killswitch 01-22-2013 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19424892)
You thieves don't like that huh? Looks like I hit a nerve.

Wow... I can understand your anger with stolen content, but blatantly calling someone a thief without proof just because you made an ignorant statement, is pretty fucking sad.

Supz 01-22-2013 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19424892)
You thieves don't like that huh? Looks like I hit a nerve.

I am a thief? Show me where I stole content. Prove that I am a thief. It looks to me that you are saying I am a content thief. Can you prove this? You did not hit a nerve because I dont give a fuck what you say, and I also do not steal content. You hit a nerve because there are PLENTY of adult webmasters who work hard at building sites with content that is provided by the sponsor. I was simply standing up for webmasters who dont cheat the system.

So now. Please prove that I am a thief, or as the GFY rules state. You should be banned. Where is the proof?

So now. Please prove that I am a thief, or as the GFY rules state. You should be banned. Where is the proof?

So now. Please prove that I am a thief, or as the GFY rules state. You should be banned. Where is the proof?

Supz 01-22-2013 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 19431299)
I think what he means is that not everybody whos not producing thinks like that ;)

PS: https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1096747

:winkwink:

Atleast someone here has common sense. Thanks Roald.

It was quiet obvious I was talking about the webmasters who dont steal. Not the ones that do...

dgraves 01-22-2013 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 19438599)
Wow... I can understand your anger with stolen content, but blatantly calling someone a thief without proof just because you made an ignorant statement, is pretty fucking sad.

I misunderstood what he meant by that. When someone makes a short statement like that it can be hard to tell what is meant by it. When I said "people", I meant "thieves", not all people in general.

Thieves justify their actions because so many people are doing it. Do you remember when there were a few large tubes that were filled with stolen content. Nothing happened to those sites other than growth and profit so why are we surprised that many jumped on the band wagon.

And yes, I get extremely pissed off when I get robbed.

Killswitch 01-22-2013 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19438636)
I misunderstood what he meant by that. When someone makes a short statement like that it can be hard to tell what is meant by it. When I said "people", I meant "thieves", not all people in general.

Thieves justify their actions because so many people are doing it. Do you remember when there were a few large tubes that were filled with stolen content. Nothing happened to those sites other than growth and profit so why are we surprised that many jumped on the band wagon.

And yes, I get extremely pissed off when I get robbed.

I highly suggest acting rationally and not out of anger, because what you said and cannot be reversed could cause your banning here if an admin sees it and deems it ban worthy.

Supz 01-22-2013 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19438636)
I misunderstood what he meant by that. When someone makes a short statement like that it can be hard to tell what is meant by it. When I said "people", I meant "thieves", not all people in general.

Thieves justify their actions because so many people are doing it. Do you remember when there were a few large tubes that were filled with stolen content. Nothing happened to those sites other than growth and profit so why are we surprised that many jumped on the band wagon.

And yes, I get extremely pissed off when I get robbed.

It is funny how you have already addressed him, but have not addressed me. An apology for one thing would be nice.

dgraves 01-22-2013 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 19438645)
I highly suggest acting rationally and not out of anger, because what you said and cannot be reversed could cause your banning here if an admin sees it and deems it ban worthy.

Your Avatar is "Ban Worthy".


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