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dgraves 02-25-2013 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by EriktheRabbit (Post 19500400)
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr...t-alert-424231

Thieves will soon have to suck their own cocks.

Just wait until they have no other choice but to beg sponsors for affiliate link codes.

My Fucking Traffic 02-25-2013 07:56 PM

About register chicaless.com and upload all Chica's Place content. :thumbsup

EddyTheDog 02-25-2013 07:58 PM

I had never seen that site - It is truly fucked up.

The vids and shit are all stuff I have seen before - The 'personals' and 'classifieds' are fucking too much though.

That site needs taking out big time.

MASSIVE traffic as well.

Supz 02-25-2013 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19500421)
Aren't you the sponge that owns http://www.supz.com/ ?

Aren't you the guy who shouldn't be posting in any thread that talks about content theft?

Didn't know Meme's had copyrights.

Let me know who owns this one so I can send them the according fee's

http://www.supz.com/ready-aim-fire/

EddyTheDog 02-25-2013 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Supz (Post 19500459)
Didn't know Meme's had copyrights.

Let me know who owns this one so I can send them the according fee's

http://www.supz.com/ready-aim-fire/

I think you might be on thin ice with that argument....

Supz 02-25-2013 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 19500463)
I think you might be on thin ice with that argument....

I dont ice skate.

dgraves 02-25-2013 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 19500450)
I had never seen that site - It is truly fucked up.

The vids and shit are all stuff I have seen before - The 'personals' and 'classifieds' are fucking too much though.

That site needs taking out big time.

MASSIVE traffic as well.

It's only going to get worse for those sites. They will have so much ad crap on them in the attempt to cover their loses that surfers will go elsewhere. It's already getting to the point where surfers don't even see the ads.

They will have no other choice but to ask sponsors for help.

EddyTheDog 02-25-2013 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19500496)
It's only going to get worse for those sites. They will have so much ad crap on them in the attempt to cover their loses that surfers will go elsewhere. It's already getting to the point where surfers don't even see the ads.

They will have no other choice but to ask sponsors for help.

I'm not talking about the stolen content - I'm talking about some of the other shit that is going on.

I'm not going to spell it out - but its fucked up.....

dgraves 02-25-2013 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 19500523)
I'm not talking about the stolen content - I'm talking about some of the other shit that is going on.

I'm not going to spell it out - but its fucked up.....

C'mon now, we can't expect them to have any significant control over what's on their site. The inmates are running the prison in their world. They live by "It wasn't me".

EriktheRabbit 02-25-2013 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 19500523)
I'm not talking about the stolen content - I'm talking about some of the other shit that is going on.

I'm not going to spell it out - but its fucked up.....

Yeah, the classifieds alone should get Josh some nice federal time.

EriktheRabbit 02-25-2013 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19500442)
Just wait until they have no other choice but to beg sponsors for affiliate link codes.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh - If they can get internet access at Attica.

nikki99 02-26-2013 08:59 AM

mother fuckers :mad: found new movies listed there today STOLEN

tokmansta 02-26-2013 09:18 AM

Why don't you guys pay him a visit? you got his adress right?

My Fucking Traffic 02-26-2013 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by tokmansta (Post 19501241)
Why don't you guys pay him a visit? you got his adress right?

Because he's nothing but a shit talker. He'll send his DMCA's that are probably all wrong, and continue to talk shit on GFY because in reality, there's nothing more he can do, and not even legally because he can't afford taking this guy to court... Such a harsh reality.

dgraves 02-26-2013 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by nikki99 (Post 19501206)
mother fuckers :mad: found new movies listed there today STOLEN

http://digital.hammacher.com/Items/1..._1000x1000.jpg

nikki99 05-02-2013 08:32 AM

I just found another movie stolen there todday

her2njoygam13 05-02-2013 11:56 AM

My offer stands....
ht tp://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19597319&postcount=88

nikki99 05-20-2013 07:19 AM

more stolen content on motherless I found today

nikki99 06-03-2013 09:56 AM

stop stealing motherfucker

dgraves 06-03-2013 11:30 AM

They started uploading short 2-3 minute clips of my content thinking they wouldn't be noticed among the other sample clips but they were all the cumshot scenes. Lame. Find a real job Josh.

nikki99 06-03-2013 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19653019)
They started uploading short 2-3 minute clips of my content thinking they wouldn't be noticed among the other sample clips but they were all the cumshot scenes. Lame. Find a real job Josh.

yes, my videos were gone for a couple fo weeks and now they are back :mad:

dgraves 06-03-2013 07:59 PM

Your videos must be bringing him some good traffic.

I know a guy who's working on a video fingerprint system that can let you know which member downloaded the video from your Member's Area. It doesn't prove that member uploaded the video but it's a good start. I think there's only a small percentage of members that upload to free sites so this software will identify which ones are the uploaders or leaks.

nikki99 06-04-2013 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19653667)
Your videos must be bringing him some good traffic.

I know a guy who's working on a video fingerprint system that can let you know which member downloaded the video from your Member's Area. It doesn't prove that member uploaded the video but it's a good start. I think there's only a small percentage of members that upload to free sites so this software will identify which ones are the uploaders or leaks.

karma is a bitch I hope these all people die

nikki99 06-04-2013 06:23 AM

bottom line I almost get raped and kidnapped everytime I shoot content and these guys make money stealing it from a comfortable couch

dgraves 06-04-2013 11:33 AM

Thieves steal shamelessly and don't care about anything but themselves.

I monitor several large Forums and it's actually funny to read their comments. One thief will download your video from your Member's Area and post it on a locker, then several other thieves will download that video and re-post it to the same locker for profit. The thieves are getting pissed off that other thieves are stealing their uploads, lol. It blows my mind when they bitch about other thieves stealing "their" hard work.

It's going to take awhile but it will come around and bite them in the ass. A business model solely based on theft cannot be sustained indefinitely.

JimmyStephans 06-04-2013 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19654560)
Thieves steal shamelessly and don't care about anything but themselves.

I monitor several large Forums and it's actually funny to read their comments. One thief will download your video from your Member's Area and post it on a locker, then several other thieves will download that video and re-post it to the same locker for profit. The thieves are getting pissed off that other thieves are stealing their uploads, lol. It blows my mind when they bitch about other thieves stealing "their" hard work.

It's going to take awhile but it will come around and bite them in the ass. A business model solely based on theft cannot be sustained indefinitely.

Oh yes - you hit it right on the mark. Those guys go crazy when a forum closes, file locker closes or like last week, payment system died like LibertyReserve.com did.

Crazy that they start claiming they can't feed kids and all that because their stealing is not paying off.

Jimmy

dgraves 06-04-2013 09:52 PM

It's funny to see the thieves getting pissed off at other thieves.

Getting back on topic, you have to laugh at the Motherless disclaimer:

************************************************** *******************
"Motherless is a moral free file host where anything legal is hosted forever! All content posted to this site is 100% user contributed. All illegal uploads will be reported. If you want to blame someone for the content on this site, blame the freaks of the world- not us.

Feel free to join the community and upload your goodies."

************************************************** *******************

Moral free?

dgraves 06-04-2013 09:57 PM

Every time I have to scan this shit bag's site to track down my content I want to kick in Josh's teeth and pin a note on his blood soaked chest that reads:

"If you want to blame someone for kicking in your teeth, blame my feet - not me."

alias 06-04-2013 10:04 PM

Dave bro, before your shit got pirated we used to sell Gloryhole Swallow all day. Once it hit the tubes, not so much.

Sucks cuz it is great content.

dgraves 06-04-2013 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by alias (Post 19655307)
Dave bro, before your shit got pirated we used to sell Gloryhole Swallow all day. Once it hit the tubes, not so much.

Sucks cuz it is great content.

Of course, pirates don't steal shitty content. They want content that will convert for them as well, they just don't want to work or pay for it.

alias 06-04-2013 10:19 PM

Need to hit em with dmca or hire a service to do it.

LittleMissBrat 06-04-2013 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by nikki99 (Post 19501206)
mother fuckers :mad: found new movies listed there today STOLEN


me too, i sent them an email and was removed

dgraves 06-04-2013 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by alias (Post 19655326)
Need to hit em with dmca or hire a service to do it.

I do that now but I'm working on a better plan.

http://www.copyright.gov/onlinesp/ag...motherless.pdf

2MuchMark 06-05-2013 05:27 AM

I notice that they offer an upgrade to a premium service for a fee. Has anyone considered complaining to the billing provider instead?

dgraves 06-05-2013 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 19655613)
I notice that they offer an upgrade to a premium service for a fee. Has anyone considered complaining to the billing provider instead?

Has anyone ever checked out what's in the Member's Area of these tubes that offer "Premium Service"? It can't be the same videos because they would no longer be protected by DMCA. I'd like to check it out to know for sure but I bet they do some shady stuff with billing.

Google Expert 06-05-2013 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19656030)
It can't be the same videos because they would no longer be protected by DMCA.

why wouldn't they?

Marquis85 06-05-2013 10:57 AM

I don't mean to hijack the thread but motherless is just one tube out there. Take a look at xxxbunker.. Stolen full length videos all over. Just sayin.

dgraves 06-05-2013 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by M.A+ (Post 19656045)
why wouldn't they?

To be protected under DMCA they can't profit directly from stolen content so that's why they all claim the videos are "user uploaded". They make money off ad space, not the content directly. The owner can't upload the videos because that could indicate they had prior knowledge of copyright work so most pay upload monkeys to do it for them. I'm not that familiar how those scripts work so they might even have a way to upload the videos themselves and make it look like they were user uploaded.

My guess is inside the Member's Area there is a bunch of generic purchased content.

Google Expert 06-05-2013 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19656402)
To be protected under DMCA they can't profit directly from stolen content so that's why they all claim the videos are "user uploaded". They make money off ad space, not the content directly. The owner can't upload the videos because that could indicate they had prior knowledge of copyright work so most pay upload monkeys to do it for them. I'm not that familiar how those scripts work so they might even have a way to upload the videos themselves and make it look like they were user uploaded.

My guess is inside the Member's Area there is a bunch of generic purchased content.

Why can't they offer same videos in the members area and still claim that the videos are user uploaded?

dgraves 06-05-2013 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Marquis85 (Post 19656275)
I don't mean to hijack the thread but motherless is just one tube out there. Take a look at xxxbunker.. Stolen full length videos all over. Just sayin.

True and the list is long. Motherless pissed me off because they had pages upon pages of my full length videos. I sent a DMCA and they were removed but oddly enough all the same videos appeared again under a different "user".

dgraves 06-05-2013 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by M.A+ (Post 19656408)
Why can't they offer same videos in the members area and still claim that the videos are user uploaded?

Because it would no longer be considered a "nonprofit library or archive".

nikki99 06-28-2013 12:44 PM

I just found a COMPLETE WEBSITE inside these assholes tube

dgraves 06-28-2013 01:31 PM

When someone first told me that my videos were on this site, they had about 50 of my full videos posted. I was ready kill someone. It's a good thing that cock sucker lives in Jersey and not closer.

freecartoonporn 06-28-2013 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19656030)
Has anyone ever checked out what's in the Member's Area of these tubes that offer "Premium Service"? It can't be the same videos because they would no longer be protected by DMCA. I'd like to check it out to know for sure but I bet they do some shady stuff with billing.

most tube sites uses whitelabel such as badoink or moviebox

some have their own premimum section and use 3rd party ipsp to process.

some even go further and collect cc data for fun :winkwink:

LittleMissBrat 06-28-2013 08:34 PM

i think the site is down

Pronstar 06-29-2013 06:14 AM

It was down today whole day. If they get away with all this shit I will start stealing content myself.

adultmobile 06-29-2013 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Pronstar (Post 19692143)
If they get away with all this shit

Talking about shit:
http://motherless.com/search?q=scat

nikki99 07-08-2013 08:32 AM

so they took the videos down and now i see they put em all again, someone can go visit these motherfuckers?

PornDude 07-08-2013 08:50 AM

Hire some VA to start sending complains to them and many others on a daily basis. Because you are pretty much wasting your time. Do something more useful for your business than reporting to GFY every video you find on the site.

Just saying :winkwink:

dgraves 07-08-2013 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by nikki99 (Post 19707699)
so they took the videos down and now i see they put em all again, someone can go visit these motherfuckers?

I don't think they actually "remove" the videos but rather "deactivate" them. Some tube scripts have the feature to deactivate videos and then re-enable them at a later date, under a different "user" of course.

The owner of motherless sent me a login that allows me to remove my videos myself but I haven't used it yet. I'm sure most tube owners would rather the producer quietly remove the videos rather than submit a DMCA each time.

We have to keep in mind that these guys aren't business men, they are thieves and don't give a fuck about the work that goes into producing videos and maintaining a paysite. They believe if you don't want your videos stolen and shared then don't put them on-line. The whole "We can't possibly moderate all the videos that get uploaded daily" is a load of shit. If that's the case then there would be plenty of non-porn related videos uploaded. If tube owners don't have the time or manpower to moderate what's being upload to "their" servers then they're in the wrong business.

They are out for the quick buck and don't have enough foresight to see the problems they are creating by destroying the affiliate model which was working well. Mark my words, they will figure it out eventually and wish they didn't burn that very important bridge.


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