its 2nd delay in 1 month, when something is delayed its time to say goodbay...I go to Epoch

hopefully we get paid tomorrow, as nothing arrived today in our RedPass account

RedPass transactions is processed once a day at 5am CST if its not there Wednesday morning your time send me a mail with your Merchant ID and Payout ID.

Zombaio 100% owns RedPass but its still different companies so Zombaio transfers money to RedPass and RedPass does the payouts for Zombaio.
Different companies different funds.

Yesterday, we received our late payout from December 27th. (Total of 2 late payouts from December.)

However, a more recent payout, supposedly due January 5th (admittedly a Saturday), has not arrived as of the 8th (Tuesday). Is this going to be a weeks-delayed payout, too?

And there's something funky with our latest payout report. Given our thresholds, the payout should have been generated on Dec. 31, but wasn't generated until late January 3rd (or possibly very early January 4th). But the weird thing is, the payout report is back-dated to January 1st, but includes payments processed after that date.

(And has anyone else noticed ongoing problems with rounding errors in payout reports? Never more than a penny or two, and not necessarily in the same direction, but annoying and time-consuming to reconcile. This is something I reported to support many months ago.)

I bring these issues up not just to complain but to make a point for the benefit of Zombaio, should management care to listen:

I don't make a big deal when some businesses have problems with money. I go to restaurants that sometimes mess up the bill. I've go to home improvement stores that sometimes do not apply the correct price at the scanner. These are annoyances and you have to watch for them, but they are not the CORE BUSINESS. For the restaurant, the CORE BUSINESS is preparing good, tasty food, followed by serving that food in a friendly and efficient manner, with the billing associated being the 3rd priority. Necessary, but not the most important thing. The home improvement store's core business is having the items I need in stock and at an attractive price when I want them. As long as mispriced items seem accidental and rare (and not some kind of scheme to boost profits), I can put up with it so long as my core needs are met.

But Zombaio's core business is HANDLING MONEY. Acquiring money from my customer, and then delivering that money to me in a timely and predictable manner. That's it. The interests are aligned: The money management is the core business. Problems with money equals problems with the core. There are no good feelings coming from a succulent steak dinner or the satisfaction of buying the perfect cordless drill to offset the annoyance at money problems. Money is all you're supposed to do.

So that's why people get so upset when these delays occur, and why partial explanations will never be adequate to allay suspicions.

The best way for Zombaio to improve the perception is to never have this problem happen again.

The next-best way is for Zombaio to communicate clearly and proactively with us BEFORE these forum threads pop up. If an ACH didn't go out, explain why, and explain it BEFORE the payout date. (I note that there is still nothing in the "Message Center" or "What's New" sections of the control panel.)

The next-next-best way is for Zombaio to attempt to make it up to us when money is late by sending future payouts early, waiving payout fees, giving a momentary break on rates, etc.

A really bad way for Zombaio to improve perception is to act defensive, surprised, or annoyed, or to put out information which has inconsistencies. That would be bad.

OK as much as I admittedly hate Zombaio, lets be fair - your are talking about minor descrepancies in reports that cover multiple time zones and currencies and cover a period that includes a pretty much worldwide holiday. And a holiday where anyone with half a life is going to need time to recover from. Not defending the late payments, cause that shit sucks, not saying they are not a bunch of idiots playing at running a payment processor, cause that is how I see them, just saying.

Ok.. so we'll supposedly be receiving our ACH for 3 week's ago this friday... and what about the missing ACH from LAST week??? What about the missing ACH from THIS week???

Since you claim to have all the access, how about some real information?

Ah yes, blame the victim.

It's so funny when these know-nothings come in here to give their unsolicited little snarky replies on these threads about us lame-ass whiners crying about a little money missing or late. (well, these same people do nothing but sit on GFY all day and post useless replies to every post, so not surprising)

It tickles me pink in these cases though....because I know damn full well the same posers would be the first ones crying and screaming from the rooftops if they had money missing or unexplained delays.

I don't care how "organized" you think you are fella; but when your business doesn't receive several thousands of dollars it should have, over the course of a 2 to 3 week span, you're gonna feel it, your business is gonna feel it and you will undoubtedly voice your displeasure over it.

Bottom line is, you can be unreliable about a lot of things---but being unreliable about paying people their money on time, every time, is probably last on the list.

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Hey man, I'm not saying you shouldn't be upset.

I process with Zombaio, my payments were late as-well, (but I did get paid).

http://img1.uploadhouse.com/fileuplo...27d9146670.jpg

Fortunately, I switched 95% of my business to mainstream over a year ago now. :) Otherwise, yes, I would be spurting out, fuck you, pay me! :)

The bottom-line, shit happens. If this is unacceptable to you, then take your business elsewhere. While I believe this hiccup shouldn't have occurred, it's not enough for me to take move away from Zombaio.

Will that be a bad judgement call on my part? That has yet to be known. :1orglaugh

I'm talking about Zombaio being unorganized, fella. :error :1orglaugh

I'm sorry that a dose of reality has clearly left you upset. Over the years I've realized little is accomplished posting your issues on here.

You can write us a 5-page sob story about how this has affected you, 50 people who don't even use Zombaio will chime in and nothing will get accomplished.

If you must spend time ensuring you can solve problems by complaining, develop a relationship, (by business deals here and there) with account managers and high level customer service people. :1orglaugh

How the heck do you do that?

I mean, just "switch" 95% of your business to mainstream?

It just sounds so darn easy! Didn't you have to work really, really hard...learn new things, start over from scratch, make new relationships, etc?

Or is there just some button I can push and switch 95% of my business over to the great and wonderful "mainstream" that I hear all the glorious stories about?
I want in too!

It's pretty easy if you invest in advertising. When I move nearly all my investment into a different industry, yes I've switched my business.

Start from scratch? You mean, I'm not marketing a product to people anymore? Relationships? Are you telling me when you're running a mainstream business you don't need help from anyone? You work with new people, and yes, you make new relationships.

Is it glorious? No, not really. Is the return much higher? Absolutely.

I've never had any luck with mainstream on the internet. :(

I've made a little over $10 million since 1997 with online adult. But every mainstream thing I've tried (which is pretty much all of them lol) I've never made a dollar with.

And every time I've tried to get onboard as an affiliate with a mainstream product that I KNOW will sell (Iphones a few years ago for instance)...I go out of my way to get a great domain for it, host it on a non-adult hosting company, get everything in order...and then they reject my affiliate application. :(

I'm missing something with it for sure. I've had buddies email me with great new "can't miss" mainstream stuff...and it flopped.

I've had an online clothing store. Flopped.

I must have the worst luck at "mainstream" of anyone on the planet.

Just about every mainstream affiliate company, especially the CPA companies and networks, require an affiliate manager actually speaking to you on the phone before they approve you. The amount of fraud the CPA companies deal with, especially from India webmasters, is absolutely staggering, so usually as soon as they hear an American voice on the other line you are approved right away.

I still love adult and will always have a presence in it, but more and more I shift my available time to mainstream projects and the return is much better, especially with my Adsense sites...

I thought about doing mainstream stuff... problem is, the sea is so fucking large that I don't have a clue as to where to begin heh..

For me personally I just did a metric shit ton of reading, the mainstream affiliate forums are ok but I learned the most from some of the blogs like smartpassiveincome, nichepursuits, adsenseflippers, etc. Those 3 blogs also have some really good free podcasts with good info on building Adsense niche blogs. A lot has changed recently with the Google EMD update but if you focus on quality content it's still not to hard to rank for mainstream niche keywords...

Well, it's not as easy as simply getting up and walking away. I mean, sure, we could do so... but to do so would mean to lose more money by way of recurring members. Our retention ratio with them is 1:1 (126%) - not sure how 1:1 works out to be 126% but that's what their admin panel shows - so to simply walk away would mean to end all of those subscriptions. As it is right now, we process very few new sales with them a month due to the constant issue of not being paid on time.

I mean, most of the time the checks come in on time, but when the core of your business revolves around handling people' money then being late 10 or more out of 52 weeks a year is simply unacceptable.

That's one of the problems I have with attempting mainstream... google is king, and these days I have to sift through dozens of garbage spam and scam sites before I actually find the info I'm looking for (non adult related). It seems with every new google update comes less legitimate sites being listed, and more and more spam & scam sites getting rankings.

Look at one of our sites. Google "Filipina Sex Diary" and what do you see? for some people, our damn site isn't even the 1st result... it's all torrent and pirate sites. It used to be our site would take up at least results 1-5, with affiliate sites being listed under ours... which is what we still see with Bing...


Anyway, back on topic... Zombaio. Where is our money? And before you waste my time in doing so... you guys told us the same "maybe by friday" bullshit last week... So how about some real damn answers this time?

I'll be out in Vegas, maybe we can exchange business cards. :thumbsup

It's not really the type of product, it's the execution that is 1,000,000 times more efficient, for me. That being said, it doesn't sound like you need a lesson in anything. I wish I made $10 million in profit, that is awesome. :thumbsup

I also do not think mainstream is this glorious thing, but I'll explain briefly why I like it.

Let's say you've found something that converts on both mainstream and adult sites.

In adult, I have a steady stream of revenue. I can continue to buy advertising, but more often than not, the traffic is not targeted. If I was told a conversion ratio over 5 is attainable I'd say you're fucking nuts. Buying opt ins that haven't been absolutely raped with spam is like winning the lottery. Quality relationships can be made as a program owner, but often affiliates don't invest big money into advertising these days.

In mainstream, you can buy highly targeted traffic across an enormous exchange hitting virtually every market. You can build look alike models, run behavioral and banner/video remarketing advertising across the same exchange.

Create SMS opt ins on your own page, buy quality opt ins, create lead generation pages, use 3rd party data services to generate profiles using just a list of phone numbers. Seriously, the possibilities are endless. As a marketing geek I could never go back! I couldn't imagine buying hit and miss traffic ever again.

I'm not making a fortune, but I'm happy, (and making more every month). :2 cents:

Oh, and I do not recommend being an affiliate in mainstream. That is possibly the most difficult way to make money. The percentage is low, rules are strict and payouts are slllooowww. Just like with porn, you shoot your own porn the margins are higher and you can market it however the fuck you want. You attain your own merchandise you can almost do whatever the fuck you want. :D

Nethorse, find me at the show. I want to take a few minutes and get on my laptop and have you educate me if you don't mind.

I'd really like to take another stab. Sounds like I was going about it all the wrong way (trying to be an affiliate).

Here in the U.S for that term with no quotes I see:

1. filipinasexdiary.com/
2. filipinasexdiary.com/my-conquests/
3. filipinasexdiary.com/tube/

right, and results are slightly different depending on where you are... that's not really the problem however. The problem is ALL of the other results on the rest of page 1, and the next 10+ pages (I stopped clicking after 10) are ALL fucking piracy sites. They used to be mostly affiliate sites with a few piracy sites sprinkled in, up until one of their recent "upgrades'.

And I get the same bullshit when searching for regular shit, it's all a spam and scam and theft fucking ghetto anymore...

How the hell can we even begin to expect to be able to rely on any kind of SEO when google is very clearly blatantly ranking piracy sites so well...

My latest payment is also MIA (settlement 2013-01-04).
You guys seriously should get your shit together!

Has anyone else noticed that they went in and fucked with the payout created and settlement dates? Instead of them remaining the same, which reflects the late payouts, they pushed all dates up a week to make it look like they were never late...

So now, according to their system tampering, the check we were supposed to receive last week is showing like we're supposed to receive it this week.

The check from 2 weeks ago is made to look like it wasn't due until last week.

This week's check is now showing as it's not due until next week.

So on and so forth...

WTF is this all about Zombaio? Michael O, you come in here and cry libel when I call foul on all of your guys' bullshit, and now you're tampering with the payout dates?!?!?!

I'm pretty fed up. This is no way to run a business. We can't project anything when we don't know if and when our money is coming in. Let's me re-emphasize that, OUR MONEY.

Missing last week's check, and now this week's check.

So I just checked and see you went in a changed the dates on the payouts to make it look like they're not so late, or not yet late. This is pretty outrageous.

My payout due 1/5 is still not here on 1/9. I did receive an email from Micheal (of this thread) this morning saying it had gone out on Monday.

As others have noted, I see that the payout dates in the table on the payout reports page have all been modified to reflect a later date. Fortunately, I archive all my payout report PDFs. As of yet, the PDFs accessed via the report page still show the original dates. Why, just yesterday someone suggested I might be overreacting a bit to discrepancies in payout reports. :-P

And still no general updates for customers in the "Message Center" or "What's New" sections.

news: Zombaio changes name to iBill

Truth is no one will change payment pages so why should they give a fuck

Looks like almost 3 payments behind again... hopefully some show up today

Late payouts here as well.

My ACH originally due 1/5 is still MIA as of this morning, 1/14. We are now getting dangerously close to the next scheduled payout which was originally due 1/16. Will it be late, too? I see that the date on the payout listing has been doctored to 1/21. It was not previously adjusted in the first round of doctoring a few days ago. That means there have now been at least two separate rounds of changes to the payout listing!

Damn, this is starting to look real bad.

Starting to?

how much does a banner ad cost on gfy.com ? Asking for a friend....thanks!

*gasp*

Hope everyone gets paid soon.

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It's probably mentioned before but you are weird as fuck.

So easy ....

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Still waiting for payment.

Likewise, still nothing.

Annoying as hell.

Prior to the Christmas holiday, I've received payments either prior to the scheduled date or on time. Since, it's been a completely different story.

I'm still getting paid but it's averaging to about a week after their scheduled time.

Just received Jan 8th payment!

2 payments hit overnight for me.

wheres that Thomas guy that used to be on here? why aint he telling us the deal since he still works for Zombaio, is he too busy getting wasted in Vegas? ;-)

No clue if he's still with them. Jesper seems to have vanished.

My Jan. 14th payment still isn't here and I had one scheduled to arrive today (18th) and no sign of that as well... It's anyone's guess when you get paid these days.

anyone removed their join pages and started using smegpay or ccgrill?

I got 1 payment two weeks ago, 1 payment last week and 2 payments this week.

Things appear to be back to normal for me. No issues.

Those having issues should talk to Micheal O.

Glad I read this thread. Was considering moving my sites to Zombaio for the lower rates, but submitted them to their site checker a week ago and still no response on that. Says it takes a couple hours...

Guess it's a good thing that was delayed or I might have made a mistake.

@Bigtymer, I'm glad you got paid. I hope everyone does.

I'm up to date on all my payouts as well except for one that cleared 30 day processing in mid November. It's a bit ridiculous at this point. According to support it was re-sent out early January, after I notified them in mid December that it was still missing.

I did write to Michael a few days ago but haven't heard back.

My Jan 14th and 18th wire payment still hasn't arrived :-(

- PornAddict