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ninavain 02-26-2013 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19499814)
I wonder if the very same people who believe the government's official story also believe in other mystical wonders, like religion for example.

The government doesn't lie, and a magic man in the sky created life as we know it.

The puzzle pieces don't match up, the science doesn't work, but what the hell, I'll believe it anyway!

Who's calling who the "sheep" in this scenario?

:thumbsup:thumbsup

scottybuzz 02-26-2013 07:59 AM

let's all blindy believe whatever is posted on infowars and naturalnews. It must all be true.

better yet, let's repost it as fact on other boards.

Dirty F 02-26-2013 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19500551)
almost positive that whole war and billions of dollars was based on the loss of the first two towers?

The story at the time was that WTC7 was 'too damaged' and had to be taken down

for example, it took a big plane full of fuel to take down one of the main buildings.. what took down WTC7? if it was damaged by buildings, it would have fallen over

Buildings don't fall over you fucking retard.
This is getting ridiculous! You people are so goddamn dumb!

wehateporn 02-26-2013 08:05 AM

This style collapse would have seemed more believable for WTC7


Dirty F 02-26-2013 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ninavain (Post 19501095)
you forgot to mention 4 blackboxes that evaporated into thin air...because that happens as well everyday....NOT

You forgot all the pentagon videos ( one of the most video taped buildings in the world) that were gathered from all the surrounding areas so we will never see what hit it...

oh and 8 different multi-ton fuselages also evaporated... because that happened in every plane crash in the history of mankind...NOT


you guys will believe just about anything you are fed...and I understand..I use to feel the same way..then I woke up and started to question things that were uncomfortable to me... but once you get past the "uncomfortable stage" a lot of shit falls into place.


Nothing happens on accident.. your life is being guided into a particular way and you don't even know it..

And ofcourse, there is Simon. One of the biggest imbeciles on gfy. And guess what? He is a conspiracy looney. What are the odds?

scottybuzz 02-26-2013 08:06 AM

One of the most publicized news events with hundreds if not thousands of cameras doing live coverage....

thousands of witnesses......

Thousands upon thousands of people doing research on the internet....


yet there is not that one piece of crucial evidence to prove the government was involved. Just people's "opinions" on how buildings should collapse if a plane hit them

wehateporn 02-26-2013 08:08 AM

This video makes it completely clear that WTC7 was a controlled demo :2 cents:


scottybuzz 02-26-2013 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19501120)
This video makes it completely clear that WTC7 was a controlled demo :2 cents:


Yes....

you have proved 9/11 was an inside job.

Well done. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Please remind me where you got your qualifications on demolitions and architecture please?

BFT3K 02-26-2013 08:13 AM

This is a red circle...

http://suckitmartha.files.wordpress....low-square.jpg

Don't question it!

scottybuzz 02-26-2013 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19501130)
This is Alex Jones...

http://static.infowars.com/images/about_alex1.jpg

Don't question him!


:thumbsup
:thumbsup

Rochard 02-26-2013 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by scottybuzz (Post 19501117)
One of the most publicized news events with hundreds if not thousands of cameras doing live coverage....

thousands of witnesses......

Thousands upon thousands of people doing research on the internet....


yet there is not that one piece of crucial evidence to prove the government was involved. Just people's "opinions" on how buildings should collapse if a plane hit them

This is the problem - so many things happened, so much evidence, and people question everything.

It's like car accident witnessed by six people from four different angles. You are going to have six different versions of what happened.

People refuse to believe that WTC 7 fell because it was hit by hundreds of millions of tons of debris, an earthquake, and ten hours of fire, yet no one questions that the San Francisco Bay Bridge fell because of an earthquake.

I have no problems questioning our government when it's called for. My father died in Vietnam; Someone fucking explain to me how we got involved in Vietnam? At the same time, WTF happened with the USS Liberty?

Jel 02-26-2013 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19499814)
I wonder if the very same people who believe the government's official story also believe in other mystical wonders, like religion for example.

The government doesn't lie, and a magic man in the sky created life as we know it.

The puzzle pieces don't match up, the science doesn't work, but what the hell, I'll believe it anyway!

Who's calling who the "sheep" in this scenario?

What a weak 'argument'.

By that logic, I can tar you as believing Elvis got abducted by aliens and is still alive, right? In fact, you believing in fairtytale scenarios, and made up 'truth' regarding all these conspiracies, means YOU and other 'truthers' believe a magic man in the sky made life, right?

Jel 02-26-2013 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by xholly (Post 19500776)
I find thw whole you either believe was 100% an inside job or you implicitly trust the government in every way really strange.

I used to own a tshirt with the words FUCK BUSH in massive letters across the front that I would walk around in, I am not American and think Bush is a war criminal

Has everyone forgotten that despit desperate attempts to tie Iraq and Saddam to 911 it was not possible and many intelligence people have come forward and said they were pressured to find such evidence. Has everyone forgotten that the reason for the Iraq invasion had nothing to do with 911 and was all about supposed hidden weapons of mass destruction? It is the lie of Iraq having these weapons and mobile production facilities that was put to the world as the reason and was found to be a lie. Hard evidence backs up the fact that it was a lie.

The bush administration went to war based on a lie, that is the fucking war crime and why he should be in jail... for fuck sake why orchestrate 911 for the reason of going to the middle east if they cant even tie Iraq to the event??

all this 911 stuff has done is made people forget this fact and buried the bush administrations war crime and lies that resulted in the deaths of thousands. Thats what I find sad.

Not sure how the war was sold in the US but from here it was pretty obvious.

:thumbsup

BFT3K 02-26-2013 08:29 AM

People believe in what they are comfortable believing in.

Facts do not effect this belief system.

Many will fight to the end, espousing stories of boats filled with animals, or talking snakes, or office fires melting steel supports, etc.

Once an unfounded belief is set comfortably in one's mind, nothing will change it.

Maybe Jesus will come back and resolve all of these issues for us.

I know for sure, that the Bush Administration would never lie, so why question anything that happened while they were in charge?

scottybuzz 02-26-2013 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19501154)
People believe in what they are comfortable believing in.

Facts do not effect this belief system.

Many will fight to the end, espousing stories of boats filled with animals, or talking snakes, or office fires melting steel supports, etc.

Once an unfounded belief is comfortable in one's mind, nothing will change it.

Maybe Jesus will come back and resolve all of these issues for us.

I know for sure, that the Bush Administration would never lie, so why question anything that happened while they were in charge?

Congratulations you have just summed up yourself.

Let's ignore thousands of different media outlets and class it as propaganda yet religiously accept anything that comes from the unbiased Natural News/Alex Jones because it fits in with your belief.

Your just as retarded as the sheep you portray with this logic.

Jel 02-26-2013 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19501154)
People believe in what they are comfortable believing in.

Facts do not effect this belief system.

Many will fight to the end, espousing stories of boats filled with animals, or talking snakes, or office fires melting steel supports, etc.

Once an unfounded belief is set comfortably in one's mind, nothing will change it.

Maybe Jesus will come back and resolve all of these issues for us.

I know for sure, that the Bush Administration would never lie, so why question anything that happened while they were in charge?

oh shush, you believe in santa claus so wtf do you know! lol! sheep! etc!

BFT3K 02-26-2013 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by scottybuzz (Post 19501160)
Congratulations you have just summed up yourself.

Let's ignore thousands of different media outlets and class it as propaganda yet religiously accept anything that comes from the unbiased Natural News/Alex Jones because it fits in with your belief.

Your just as retarded as the sheep you portray with this logic.

First of all, there are 6 consolidated media corporations - not "thousands".

Six control the message.

I do not follow Natural News or Alex Jones, but carry on...

ninavain 02-26-2013 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19501165)
First of all, there are 6 consolidated media corporations - not "thousands".

Six control the message.

I do not follow Natural News or Alex Jones, but carry on...

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

I can't believe people actually think there are THOUSANDS of media outlets..might be thousands of channels..but they are owned by the same powerful families that pull puppet strings all over the world

scottybuzz 02-26-2013 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19501165)
First of all, there are 6 consolidated media corporations - not "thousands".

Six control the message.

I do not follow Natural News or Alex Jones, but carry on...

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninavain (Post 19501181)
:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

I can't believe people actually think there are THOUSANDS of media outlets..might be thousands of channels..but they are owned by the same powerful families that pull puppet strings all over the world


Yes, in the world there are only 6 media outlets.

Congratulations, did Alex Jones teach you both this one?

scottybuzz 02-26-2013 08:53 AM

wait. i can already see your response;

"there are actually 12 media companies in the world all owned by the same 5 powerful families including rothschild.

We don't believe the millions of journalists in the world, we would rather believe the 1 guy running Natural news."

scottybuzz 02-26-2013 09:14 AM

let's only believe the guys who have made millions from the promotion of conspiracy theories and fear. Let's not believe anything else and call the rest of them sheep and tools of rothschild.

hate to say it, but I respect alex jones and david icke for being incredibly smart businessmen.

BFT3K 02-26-2013 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by scottybuzz (Post 19501231)
let's only believe the guys who have made millions from the promotion of conspiracy theories and fear. Let's not believe anything else and call the rest of them sheep and tools of rothschild.

hate to say it, but I respect alex jones and david icke for being incredibly smart businessmen.

Oh, so you want to follow the money now, do you?

Let me know when your conspiracy-funded businessmen make $7 BILLION DOLLARS off of questionable events - then we'll talk...

ninavain 02-26-2013 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by scottybuzz (Post 19501184)
Yes, in the world there are only 6 media outlets.

Congratulations, did Alex Jones teach you both this one?

lol..I didn't need Alex Jones to tell me that..lol it's a well known fact

ninavain 02-26-2013 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19501110)
Buildings don't fall over you fucking retard.
This is getting ridiculous! You people are so goddamn dumb!

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19501114)
This style collapse would have seemed more believable for WTC7



and once again..DIRTY F you look like a complete goddamn dumbass..congrats:thumbsup

Dirty F 02-26-2013 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ninavain (Post 19501266)
and once again..DIRTY F you look like a complete goddamn dumbass..congrats:thumbsup

Congrats moron, you found a video of a building that fell over for whatever reason. And now you are gonna post the 1000's of videos of buildings collapsing straight down?

Oh right, ofcourse not because that doesn't go well with your conspiracy crap.

Fucking white trash moron. And stop posting as a fucking female you freak!

Dirty F 02-26-2013 09:46 AM

Simon is a perfect example how the truthers work.
A video of a building that falls over is proof that the wtc was a controlled demolition.
The tons of videos of buildings collapsing straight down don't matter.

You have to be a true imbecile if you think a building like this just tips over

http://www.wtc7.net/docs/streamers.jpg

ninavain 02-26-2013 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19501285)
Congrats moron, you found a video of a building that fell over for whatever reason. And now you are gonna post the 1000's of videos of buildings collapsing straight down?

Oh right, ofcourse not because that doesn't go well with your conspiracy crap.

Fucking white trash moron. And stop posting as a fucking female you freak!

because you said buildings don't fall over you dumb fuck... there's a building falling over..now go back into your hole, bitch

the main problem with you Dirty F is, you are a weak person...this board is your only source of life.. how does that feel to be a man of nothingness

scottybuzz 02-26-2013 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19501253)
Oh, so you want to follow the money now, do you?

Let me know when your conspiracy-funded businessmen make $7 BILLION DOLLARS off of questionable events - then we'll talk...

with any major disaster people make money. it is impossible not to.

next?

let's blame the US for making money when Germany declared war on them.

p.s. love the way how you have deflected everything i have said in this thread and come up with something new instead of answering.

Bryan G 02-26-2013 10:20 AM

GFY never ceases to amazing me lmao.

scottybuzz 02-26-2013 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ninavain (Post 19501258)
lol..I didn't need Alex Jones to tell me that..lol it's a well known fact

So the 6 US organisations control Chinese media, do they control North Korean media too? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

it is hard to argue with you retards. Your blindly obeying what natural news puts out etc simply because they hate America.

I am sorry I cannot compete with people who are so one-sided and conformist :2 cents:

wehateporn 02-26-2013 10:28 AM

This Belgian politician knows...


Dirty F 02-26-2013 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ninavain (Post 19501339)
because you said buildings don't fall over you dumb fuck... there's a building falling over..now go back into your hole, bitch

the main problem with you Dirty F is, you are a weak person...this board is your only source of life.. how does that feel to be a man of nothingness

How does it feel to be a white trash idiot posting as a woman?

Dirty F 02-26-2013 10:42 AM

Why is it that non of you imbeciles have any proof whatsoever that the government was behind this? Nobody here or anywhere else. Not even after 11 years! Not one person on this planet has any proof.
What exactly does that tell you?

Dirty F 02-26-2013 10:46 AM

http://forums.randi.org/local_links.php?catid=18

There you go. It will pretty much answer all the retarded questions you imbeciles have.
I highly suggest you spend some time reading it.
Don't just fucking ignore it. Educate yourself so you will stop looking like a fucking retard.

wehateporn 02-26-2013 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19501408)
Why is it that non of you imbeciles have any proof whatsoever that the government was behind this? Nobody here or anywhere else. Not even after 11 years! Not one person on this planet has any proof.
What exactly does that tell you?

Any proof you're not a bot?

Jel 02-26-2013 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19501408)
Why is it that non of you imbeciles have any proof whatsoever that the government was behind this? Nobody here or anywhere else. Not even after 11 years! Not one person on this planet has any proof.
What exactly does that tell you?

the proof is right there! It's just the likes of you and I can't 'see' it :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

woe betide us thick as shit, blind, sheeple! lmfao. Oh, this also means I believe *everything* all governments say and the media spin :thumbsup And in jesus.

BFT3K 02-26-2013 10:49 AM

Saddam Hussein has mobile production facilities for biological agents, and it is believed his cohorts have been seen in Africa purchasing yellow cake uranium...

http://i.imgur.com/2ifPO.jpg

9/11 was planned in a cave, and consisted solely of 20 random and primitive terrorists.

THE EARTH IS FLAT.

scarlettcontent 02-26-2013 11:40 AM

the whole thing stinks

Rochard 02-26-2013 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by scottybuzz (Post 19501231)
let's only believe the guys who have made millions from the promotion of conspiracy theories and fear. Let's not believe anything else and call the rest of them sheep and tools of rothschild.

hate to say it, but I respect alex jones and david icke for being incredibly smart businessmen.

Alex Jones is a great example. All he does is promote conspiracy theories.

The rest of them have written books, produce videos, get paid to speak.... Talk about being biased.

EddyTheDog 02-26-2013 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19501419)
Saddam Hussein has mobile production facilities for biological agents, and it is believed his cohorts have been seen in Africa purchasing yellow cake uranium...

9/11 was planned in a cave, and consisted solely of 20 random and primitive terrorists.

THE EARTH IS FLAT.

Of course Saddam was totally incapable of such things -

http://i.imgur.com/3j2RwTO.jpg

Quote:

As early as April 1987, the Iraqis used chemical weapons to remove Kurds from their villages in northern Iraq during the Anfal campaign. It is estimated that chemical weapons were used on approximately 40 Kurdish villages, with the largest of these attacks occurring on March 16, 1988 against the Kurdish town of Halabja.

Beginning in the morning on March 16, 1988 and continuing all night, the Iraqis rained down volley after volley of bombs filled with a deadly mixture of mustard gas and nerve agents on Halabja. Immediate effects of the chemicals included blindness, vomiting, blisters, convulsions, and asphyxiation. Approximately 5,000 women, men, and children died within days of the attacks. Long-term effects included permanent blindness, cancer, and birth defects. An estimated 10,000 lived, but live daily with the disfigurement and sicknesses from the chemical weapons.

Saddam Hussein's cousin, Ali Hassan al-Majid was directly in charge of the chemical attacks against the Kurds, earning him the epithet, "Chemical Ali.

Joshua G 02-26-2013 12:04 PM

nevermind. why do i even bother?

Dirty F 02-26-2013 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by scarlettcontent (Post 19501503)
the whole thing stinks

You're such a fucking idiot. With the brain of an 8 year old. What a pathetic fucking life you looneys must have. I feel sorry for you m

_Richard_ 02-26-2013 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19501077)
But who profited the most? Who was behind it? Couldn't they have done a lot less damage and had the same results? Did they really plan this out with four planes and explosives all over the place? If the White House was the fourth target, why didn't they discover explosives there?



How many fucking times do I have to explain this?

No fucking planes hit the Bay Bridge and it fell in 1989 because of an earthquake.

WTC 7 was hit by debris that damaged, combined with an earthquake, and then was on fire for eight to ten hours. It wasn't the only other building to fall; WTC 6 was nearly completely destroyed as well. The only difference is the fall of WTC 7 was caught on video.

http://rememberbuilding7.org/silverstein-statement/



there you go, silverstein at .30 talking about 'pulling building 7'

this is the second 'fucking' time i have explained this to you.

and i like how you swear and make examples but yet don't explain how a building damaged by another falling building just implodes, and doesn't fall over

that's real credible.

i think im going to group you with robbie

_Richard_ 02-26-2013 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 19501545)
Of course Saddam was totally incapable of such things -

http://i.imgur.com/3j2RwTO.jpg

remind me.. where did these chemical weapons come from, who did the research, and who's dead bodies were the research used on?

Dirty F 02-26-2013 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19501885)
http://rememberbuilding7.org/silverstein-statement/



there you go, silverstein at .30 talking about 'pulling building 7'

this is the second 'fucking' time i have explained this to you.

and i like how you swear and make examples but yet don't explain how a building damaged by another falling building just implodes, and doesn't fall over

that's real credible.

i think im going to group you with robbie

Tell me honestly, how long did you spend reading the link i posted a few posts up.
I really wonder because it explains detail what happened to building 7. And yet you are still here talking the same old bullshit.
Let's be honest here. Not one minute right? Because you actually aren't interested in facts. In the truth. A big government conspiracy is far more interesting to you fucking retards.

Dirty F 02-26-2013 03:10 PM

Look up some videos of demolitions. Tons of charges go off. Everybody there would have heard it if that was the case. A building like that would take days of not weeks to set up. Without a single person there noticing it. Imagine the amount of people that would have been involved!
The people who set the charges, the firefighters etc. All part of this conspiracy. You must be slightly insane to believe this.

_Richard_ 02-26-2013 03:11 PM

as much time as i spend reading anything you write dude

EddyTheDog 02-26-2013 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19501919)
remind me.. where did these chemical weapons come from, who did the research, and who's dead bodies were the research used on?

I know that in the west we are as bad as some of the people we despise so much - I will never dispute that.

What I was pointing out is that Saddam was more than capable of using WMDs and attempting genocide.

If there was any reason to suspect he had or was trying to get more weapons then with that history I think it was a good decision to make sure he did not.

He needed taking out anyway just for his previous atrocities - and yes, before you say it there are others on the list that have done as bad or worse that we wont touch because of the west's hypocritical stance - As I said, I know we are pretty fucked up as well.....

_Richard_ 02-26-2013 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 19501949)
I know that in the west we are as bad as some of the people we despise so much - I will never dispute that.

What I was pointing out is that Saddam was more than capable of using WMDs and attempting genocide.

If there was any reason to suspect he had or was trying to get more weapons then with that history I think it was a good decision to make sure he did not.

He needed taking out anyway just for his previous atrocities - and yes, before you say it there are others on the list that have done as bad or worse that we wont touch because of the west's hypocritical stance - As I said, I know we are pretty fucked up as well.....

im just.. not going after your mindset.. but why?

how can you feel that war was justified on the basis of 'atrocities', that occur everyday like they're not atrocities at all?

and this is everything you're 'allowed' to see :1orglaugh

shit doesn't stop here.

Dirty F 02-26-2013 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19501944)
as much time as i spend reading anything you write dude

Just as i expected. Thanks for confirming what a fucking sad group of people you truthers are. What a fucking disgrace.


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