Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19556062)

The first law I would like to see is one about mental health. My wife works in healthcare, and all of the hospitals and doctors are hooked up these days via computer networks. Our government should be able to tap into these systems and see if you've seen a shrink recently or if you are on any medication that should be a problem. Privacy issues are no longer a concern; You wave your rights every time you see a doctor and you wave your rights during a background check to buy a firearm, same thing.

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19556069)

Wow! Now you want a government employee screening citizens for mental capacity levels????

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19556062)

But no one is talking about loosing our rights or our freedoms.

I saw on FB the other day that you have a motorcycle. Fucking awesome. But in order to have that motorcycle you have to have a motorcycle license, have it registered, and have it insured. You also have to wear a helmet. When you went to DMV to get your license they pulled your driving record to make sure you haven't had too many tickets recently.

Why don't we do the same for firearms? (Here in California....) If you've had four tickets, no driver's license. Why don't we have a law saying "If you've been charged with assault and battery in the past four years, no firearms for you".

Why do we have to register our cars, but not weapons?

I'm just talking about some common sense laws here. The very first law we need to have is medical background check. No idea how to make it happen, but at the very least you should be sane to own a firearm. (Come to think of it we need the same law to drive a car.)



I never gave this much thought really.

I think this is a waste of time. It doesn't matter if you have one thirty round clip it's not much different three clips of ten rounds each. It's not like it takes thirty seconds to reload; It takes a few seconds to eject and ram a new clip in. Even with a handgun you can keep reloading all damn day long until everyone is dead.

The first law I would like to see is one about mental health. My wife works in healthcare, and all of the hospitals and doctors are hooked up these days via computer networks. Our government should be able to tap into these systems and see if you've seen a shrink recently or if you are on any medication that should be a problem. Privacy issues are no longer a concern; You wave your rights every time you see a doctor and you wave your rights during a background check to buy a firearm, same thing.

Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19556257)

I had a talk with a friend of mine from Turkey. I didn't know you can get gun licenses in Turkey but to do that you have to spend two days in a hospital getting a battery of physical and psychological tests . Not a bad idea.
As someone who studied the martial arts as a young man to think shooting at targets in a controlled environment is going to make you ready for a gun fight is silly. In the words of Bruce Lee, "Boards don't hit back."
I think you should be able to own any gun you want. It should be registered yearly and you got to take a 4 weekend course and pass a test to get your gun license. A more comprehensive background check and close all selling loopholes. All guns start as legal. You pass it all, which I figure 95 percent of all gun owners can do, own an arsenal if you want.

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19556287)

I really don't give a shit about turkey, unless I shot it and I get mashed potatoes with it.

4 week course? LOL, the military spent an afternoon on us. My training was from a Marine that spent years shooting with me.

As far as shooting back, not a problem

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19555523)

Read it again, Rochard stated no one has taken hand to hand combat training, I replied I had, then I gave a reason that it doesn't always work. The guy that attacked me was looking for backers for his MMA fighting, built like I was at that age of 26. I'm twice that now. Face to face, he would have regretted, he's a coward to the core. Cowards are why we need to protect ourselves with guns.
Calling me delusional because you don't understand that, puts you in the same class as him!

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19555816)

I have a simple question

Why do they want to take guns from legal owners? They aren't the problem

Originally Posted by PornoMonster (Post 19555931)

You are Dumb as Fuck...
I bet every Marine hates it when you speak that you were even in.

OMG

NOTHING can prevent someone wallking up an shooting you in the head from Behind.
Not YOUR gun Laws not owning a gun.

I didn't say Hide a Gun in the house I said YOU might as well stay hidden in the house if you are so scared of people driving and having guns and on meds and so on.

If I worded it wrong, my bad...

I am not even going to waste time to go look and see...

Criminals break in to Wal-marts and steal guns, so what.
Oh hey lets make a law making that illegal...

NO FUCKING Person said having a weapon will STOP every situation, but show me how having one was bad.

MY FUCKING GOD you are a TROLL, you argue to argue.
You own guns, even an AR-15 you claim, but want more laws passed. No Laws will stop the criminals or crazies.

I am done with your Trolling, and if you are that stupid, I pray for your family.

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19555968)

In California, you need to take a safety class, unless you are ex military, then you need a copy of your DD214



It's not about the firearms, it's about freedoms and losing them because of what criminals are doing. That makes no sense to me! Do you really think limiting legal gun owners guns to 10 rounds each is going to save lives?

Cops have semi automatic rifles to protect themselves, they don't have them to protect us, we should have the same thing. Full auto, I have no use for, I'm a better shot than that.

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19556277)

Having and riding a motorcycle is not a right guaranteed by the constitution of the United States, it is a privilege. Owning a firearm is a right. Fuck any politician to the murky depths of hell if they think they are above the constitution.

As far as screening for mental health, are you out of your fucking mind? Seriously Richard, love you, but that's nuts. Think about it, some shrink sitting in an office going thru 300 people a day determining their right to own a gun? Because if you want it to be just when they see a shrink, they will stop seeing a shrink to keep their guns.

Think of it this way, when we were kids, how many did you know that were on meds? Now ask your kid how many she knows, the Medical field is going to determine who gets a gun? They are drugging all our kids to line their pockets.
You do know that in this country you are like 5 times more likely to die from the misdiagnoses of a doctor than a gun shot?

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 19556707)

its a good thing guns were invented before cars. who knows what might of been in the constitution if cars had aided in America's independence from Britain.

i can't believe you would actually be against screening for mental health issues. i don't agree that simply seeing a psychiatrist should be ground for not obtaining a gun but if a person is diagnosed with a mental illness known for violent outbursts and hallucinations such as schizophrenia, these people should definitely not be able to have guns and there should be an easy way to screen for this. it won't prevent those who aren't diagnosed but its better than nothing.

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19556277)

Having and riding a motorcycle is not a right guaranteed by the constitution of the United States, it is a privilege. Owning a firearm is a right. Fuck any politician to the murky depths of hell if they think they are above the constitution.

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19556277)

Think of it this way, when we were kids, how many did you know that were on meds? Now ask your kid how many she knows, the Medical field is going to determine who gets a gun? They are drugging all our kids to line their pockets.
You do know that in this country you are like 5 times more likely to die from the misdiagnoses of a doctor than a gun shot?

Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19556653)

You are too funny. lol You served on a sub in a war that was in a desert. So I would bet you never experienced being shot at.

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 19556707)

its a good thing guns were invented before cars. who knows what might of been in the constitution if cars had aided in America's independence from Britain.

i can't believe you would actually be against screening for mental health issues. i don't agree that simply seeing a psychiatrist should be ground for not obtaining a gun but if a person is diagnosed with a mental illness known for violent outbursts and hallucinations such as schizophrenia, these people should definitely not be able to have guns and there should be an easy way to screen for this. it won't prevent those who aren't diagnosed but its better than nothing.

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19556277)

As far as screening for mental health, are you out of your fucking mind? Seriously Richard, love you, but that's nuts. Think about it, some shrink sitting in an office going thru 300 people a day determining their right to own a gun? Because if you want it to be just when they see a shrink, they will stop seeing a shrink to keep their guns.
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No one has to sit in an office and do anything. If you have seen a mental health doctor for ANYTHING, you are flagged. Period. If you see a shrink because someone in your house might be nuts, you are also flagged - can't have a firearm in the house if your kid is suicidal.



And this should be the first thing in any new law about background searches.

The NRA used to be about gun safety in the 1970s - rifles. Handguns and assault rifles was never part of the discussion. After the last school shooting, instead of having smart discussions about what we can do to prevent this from happening again, the NRA stuck it's head up it's ass. The end result is the most damaging gun bill ever is about to pass in Connecticut.... Instead of the NRA sitting down with lawmakers and having a talk about it and having checks for mental health, instead we'll have to register "high capacity magazines".

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19556727)

And what about white trash like Vendzilla? Someone with an extremely low iq who has guns eveywhere because he just can't wait to use them. Should he be allowed a gun? He's obviously a way bigger danger than any random criminal. The chances if him putting a gun in your face are much higher than a burglar doing that for instance.
And that's just him. He brainwashes women around him to shoot at anything that moves funny.
It's obvious that someone like Vendzilla is the real problem here.
You can't stop criminals but you can stop retards like him from owning a gun. This would make a huge difference.