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Robbie 04-07-2013 10:15 PM

Yeah, and Grant Mercury thinks it's all "free" if you get "subsidized"

NOTHING is "free" and as I've said over and over and over (and guys like him just ignore it)...this hasn't done anything to address the COST of healthcare.

It's only raised the prices on existing insured people and forces everybody else to buy insurance that they might not need.

And it's costing our already debt ridden country 2 TRILLION dollars more to add to the debt.

It's an abortion all the way around (and abortions aren't covered lol)

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Robbie 04-07-2013 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantMercury (Post 19567055)
Aren't they FREE to lobby Congress? :winkwink:

I will repeat this to you because you seem to have a little bit of trouble comprehending the concept of FREEDOM.

YES, they are free to lobby Congress. But our politicians are the scum who demand to have their palms greased for their votes.

We don't vote corporations in to work on behalf of the American people, we vote for politicians. You seem to be very confused about who has the power...it's the GOVT. in case you didn't notice. And they not only put their votes up for sale to the highest bidder...they DEMAND to be paid for every last vote that lines their pockets and greases their palms.

And speaking of palms...I swear everytime I read one of your sheep-like, in love with big govt. posts I slap my palm to my forehead in total disbelief that anyone actually thinks that way. :(

PornoMonster 04-08-2013 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultPornMasta (Post 19567062)
And there are still stupid people out there who believe that Obamacare provides free health care.

No wonder this country is going to Hell in a handbasket!

And most of the ignorant fucks voted for the Rat Bastard the second time!

:2 cents:

His name is GrantMercury

GrantMercury 04-08-2013 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19567148)
I will repeat this to you because you seem to have a little bit of trouble comprehending the concept of FREEDOM.

YES, they are free to lobby Congress. But our politicians are the scum who demand to have their palms greased for their votes.

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JFC. Dude, the politicians don't DEMAND it. The corporations are HAPPY to write the checks.

Nobody would be more upset than the world's largest corporations if we got money out of politics. So long as it's all a big money race - it's a race they can win.

GrantMercury 04-08-2013 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by PornoMonster (Post 19567223)
His name is GrantMercury

Taste my sack. :321GFY

EpicPanda 04-08-2013 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantMercury (Post 19561581)
The problem is, the for-profit health insurance fuckers are still in the picture. Single-payer (the only system that makes sense, and the one every other 1st-world country uses) was SOCIALISM!!!!! Dumb fucking teabaggers were whipped into a frenzy about "death panels" by Faux News and took to the streets. We're too dumb to demand a system that works, because the corporate media scares paranoid lunkheads with terms they don't understand.

And, as usual, there's more to the story.

This is only one study, and it was conducted by a company with ties to a health insurer.

Additionally, the increase in costs isn't across the board, and it doesn't apply to all states. Also co-pays, "bridges" and deductibles will go down.

And there is a lot that's right with Obamacare, including the elimination of preexisting conditions, and a requirement that these bastards use at least 80% of every premium dollar paid to be used on actual healthcare (or refund the difference). Children can stay on their parents' insurance until they're 26, contraception is covered 100%, no-cost yearly checkups, and 45,000,000 people who had no coverage finally will (we can agree that's a good thing, even if it doesn't apply to you personally, right)?

So it's a mixed bag. I'm not very happy with it, but it's better than what we had. Maybe if idiots across the country would stop hyperventilating every time "socialism" is spoken, we could start a real conversation and get a system that works right, particularly since "capitalism" is what the current fucked-up healthcare system is all about. For example, check out what this guy takes in - and he's never healed a single person.

Blue Cross parent's CEO pay climbs to $12.9 million
http://www.chicagobusiness.com/artic...o-12-9-million

Wow. That's a lot of premium dollars right there. He must be some great lifesaving physician...oh right. He doesn't know the first thing about healing the sick or saving lives. He's doing a great job saving us from "government healthcare" and "socialism," I guess.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cHGSUfR5A1...teabaggers.jpg

This, this. This.

Robbie 04-08-2013 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantMercury (Post 19568304)
JFC. Dude, the politicians don't DEMAND it. The corporations are HAPPY to write the checks.

Try opening a brick and mortar business and you will see your local officials quickly DEMAND their money. Brother, you are not stupid..but you are very ignorant of how things work.


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