Exactly. Slap some tits on them and welcome to my world.

All news networks now do this on a regular basis. They hype everything to get your attention and keep you.

But most people don't know the difference between entertainment and real reporting. And that's the problem.

there ya go, thanks for that. :)

Alex Jones' doesn't even believe what he says. It's a character he plays to make money. Pure and simple.

The problem is all of his dipshit followers believe him.

Wow...listening to that guy bully that cameraman is disgusting.

What an asshole. It's the United States. And the guy bullying him is telling him that he isn't free to be there and have an opinion?

So let me get it straight...the one cameraman is there working for a talk show host who has a theory that the govt. is involved.
And then you get some other guy cursing him out and trying to deny him the freedom of having a different thought and trying to bully him out of the city?

WTF?

Sorry, I can't stand bullies. And theoretically the whole concept of The United States is FREEDOM. Including the right to express an opinion no matter how controversial, distasteful, or even wrong.

Arguing with the guy is one thing. Asking him why he's in "your neighborhood", like this punk owns the fucking street, is just being a bully and un-American.

The thing about alex jones is its not a theory to them. its what happened. the have proof. even the camera guy says so. i also wonder if this guy with the infowars mic and camera was the same guy representing infowars shouting over all other reporters questions at a media briefing right after the bombing that it was a false flag.

i can see why people would be upset with them, especially if they are from boston but this kid was doing it just so he could put it up on youtube and get attention.

Yeah, the kid doing that could give two shits about what that cameraman says or does. He was definitely doing it for attention. And he got it. :(

If that guy had lost a family member or friend then yeah...he MIGHT have been legit upset (though why anybody would be upset over the suggestion of the fucking FBI doing shady shit is beyond me...they have a history of it).

But I doubt very seriously that anybody who truly was emotionally invested in what happened that day (and you would think that every person who lives in Boston suddenly was...even though the Marathon itself is just a tourist event that people who actually live there avoid) would have acted out that way this kid did.

I like you.

Looks like a young Bruce Willis.

But they don't have proof. They take a photograph, point out something suspicious, and calling it truth. They don't need proof; All they need to do is create doubt and claim it's the truth.

As true as that may be, that's the price we have to pay for freedom of expression. I know it sucks, but whoever said life was a bed of roses and double rainbows?

What would be the alternative? Censoring him?

"We don't like the kray kray you putting on on Mr. so we shutting you down". That scares the LIVING SHIT out of me much more than his most psychotic ramblings.

Do governments lie? Sure. After all, some people will sell their own mothers for a buck, and when you mix in big business interests, which lobby the government so they than fill their pockets even more, it's bound to happen.

And being skeptical is a good thing, being able to criticize the government a sign of an open society.

But as skeptical as you can be of the government you should also be of those whose business model is to criticize it.

Nothing is unconstitutional until a court says that it is and even then not until the ultimate court...the Federal Supreme Court says that it is...they not you or anyone else are the deciders.

Alex Jones is just a capitalist making a killing from the conspiracy theories, check the alexa rank of his sites and the terror ads they have.

Pigshit.

You just also described the government and mainstream media.

If you presented both arguments to an alien who had no bias or previous knowledge of the incident, the "proof" provided to the people probably would not be a slam dunk. It was a single frame of one brother walking away where it looked like he *might* not have on a backpack. Everything else has been 100% hearsay. Photos of a burn mark on a street after the fact is not proof of anything, especially to the outsider with no bias or previous knowledge of the incident.

That doesn't mean I don't think they did it, but what you are saying is exactly what has happened through the media and government, and many believe this to be the truth for no other reason than they believe once source better than the other, even though that source has lied to everyone in the past, they still give it more credibility and place their trust there. I'm sure there is a physiological name for this, as the the psychology of belief is truly bizarre and fascinating.

On the contrary I think he did a good job. Anyone who works for Alex Jones is a dumb ass.

Alex Jones is the king of the trolls $$$

True but people who believe conspiracy theories, especially the shit from Alex Jones, just can't be rational. You can give them absolute scientific proof and they still won't believe it. What they want to believe seems to deep that it is beyond reason.

Some examples:

- 9/11 "Truthers" think all kinds of stupid things were involved such as remote controlled airplanes and demolition explosives.

- Obama "Birthers" like Donald Trump STILL don't believe Potus was born in the US, despite seeing his birth certificate.

- "Looners" or "Lunars" or whatever the fuck they are called think the moon landings were faked.

People like these collect all kinds of garbage faux-truths into their heads and cannot for the life of them consider for 1 second that they could be wrong. It's beyond sad - Nutjobs like these eventually make it to the radio (Alex Jones) and TV (Glenn Beck) and can even influence politics making a bad situation much much worse.

I'm all for the 1st amendment but there is so much disinformation out there believed by dopes that I think causes real progress to be held back in alot of areas.

Sad, sad sad.

Is that the official answer from your source at the Pentagon?

Perhaps they could shed some light on Pathfinder's death. That also sounds like an inside job.

As I've said before, there are crazy people and there are those who seek the truth (more info) and/or don't always buy into the "official" story. There is a huge difference between these two types of people.

Having said that, I really don't understand how people who sell porn for a living can demonize any of these people, crazy or not. Everyone is just trying to make a living even if you don't agree with them. Jones and Beck should not be able to influence politics any more than Jon Stewart can. The fact that they can at all really says something about the sad state of the USA.

You are assuming that Alex Jones and Glenn Beck believe the stuff they spew out. That is an awful big assumption imho.

I think they are con men, entertainers who have found a niche. If this niche hadn't worked out they would have become evangelical ministers or stand up comics or politicians.

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Anyone who believes in God is a dumb ass. Anyone who works for a war mongering government is a dumb ass. Anyone who makes porn is a dumb ass. Anyone who is posting right now instead of spending time with their family is a dumb ass. Anyone who bothers to respond to theking is a dumb ass. And so on and so forth.

I'm being sarcastic of course (for some of those), but Jones has a money making machine and to do that you can't hire dumb asses. The kicker is, in society's eyes, even Jones and Beck are more respectable than most of the people in this business.

I concur...even though I sometimes wonder about what they really believe or don't believe.

people all over the world believe jones, it's not exclusively american so if it's a sad commentary on america for americans believing him, it's a sad commentary on the world as well.

but i don't think that explains it. one thing that hasn't been mentioned here is the internet and the ease it spreads information, right and wrong. the world is a much smaller place now due to the internet, there's a lot of info to digest, people don't delve into every topic and sort it out.

not saying that's right or wrong, but there is some human nature happening here.

True. Most con men aren't dumb, in fact you have to be pretty slick to be able to troll at that high level.

This is why going apeshit on them is the wrong approach, because organizations like that are borderline cults, and nothing, NOTHING brings cult members together better than an outside force attacking them head-on. It's the tribal instinct kicking in.

Which is why politeness and specially humour work much better. When you laugh at someone's arguments, when it's obvious you're not taking them seriously and you make it clear that they're making you laugh, you take away their power.

Depressingly true :(


Sure there is. The human brain is a pattern-seeking machine. But just because you "see" a pattern does not mean it exists.

There has been psychological studies on conspiracy theories which boil down to this:
When things are really fucked up in your life, when you feel you have no control over events, your brain tries to give events meaning, context by making connections.

Thinking "the Jews/government did 9/11 - Boston bombings" gives that horrific event an "acceptable" explanation. "It was part of a plan by hidden forces, not a random event" and that's in a way reassuring because then you get a handle on what happened and can then "fight" these hidden forces thus regaining control.

It's the same way religion works. Good shit happens in your life? "God is so generous because I'm good". Bad shit happens in your life? "It's part of God's Plan to test me".

The dude who made this is a friend of mine! :1orglaugh

Truth be told I haven't really given much thought to the Boston Bomber or what proof the government has given us. I've seen the same pictures everyone else has seen, but outside of that I really don't have any proof outside of what the US government has told us.

I know that the US government lies to us, yet in this case I have no reason to doubt them. There are times when the government will lie to us (JFK, Cambodia) but in this case I don't see how the FBI could be involved. Or why.

For the most part I believe the press too. If any of the major news outlets thought there was any doubt to the story, they would start poking serious holes in it. And quickly too. It's like GFY here - You CANNOT lie here because you will be called out.

Agreed, and I would add Hannity and Limbaugh onto that list.

You just opened up a whole can of worms.

:1orglaugh

Exactly right. Glenn Beck wanted to be Howard Stern. When that didn't work he tried something else. They don't really care. They're narcissists who want attention and to make tons of money. How doesn't really matter.

I was sold when he said "piss flaps" or something like that. The guy is witty for sure. He did get a tad redundant but still he tore that guy to shreds.
Ds

So I am the only one who thinks he sounds like that guy from the BangBus?