The ones who claim that one is better than the other are usually the ones who are most clueless.

They all do the same thing and are all built using most of the same parts.

I'm trying to decide if I should get a new Macbook Pro now, or wait for the new Intel processors to come out. Sounds like there will be a huge battery improvements with the new ones.

how much you paid?

My psychic powers appear to be failing me right now.

"Macs" are just PC hardware these days; therefore you do "overpay". I thought all Mac users knew and accepted that fact.

You seem to believe everyone who buys a Mac does so for the same reason you do, that they have no choice. Strange.

There's more to a Mac than just overpriced "PC hardware".

I don't know why I feel the need to constantly educate people. I'm going to take a vacation from that and eat some dinner. :winkwink:

Their support is pretty good, on a consistent basis. I will give them that. But that's just how it should be done and it doesn't need 300% retail markup in some cases to do it. I have owned them for years and will again in the future, but as someone who rarely needs their support and hasn't run into many hardware issues...I'd rather save a little bit. I'm a camera gear whore now. Much like it's a matter of principal for Edgeprod to make sure he's not having issues, it's a matter of principal that I choose not to pay the Apple Tax on everything.

This is why Apple has never cared about being the #1 PC hardware seller. They will happily sell 1/3 less because they make up for it buy selling the same stuff as everyone else in a pretty box for 3 times as much.

Believe yourself yet?

It saddens me that you claim to have owned and enjoyed Macs for years and will again, but still think the only thing different about a Mac is the price. :(

I couldn't live without Nvidia Cuda but if you dont play game and dont do photos editing and videos editing then it true dans the intel 4000 will do the trick.

Why not give a list of differences then.

I said they have good support and pretty cases too. :winkwink:

The differences for me are in the software. Now I can build a machine that run the software of my choice (OSX / Final Cut X), with easy installation and flawless execution. It makes absolutely no sense for me to overpay when I don't have to.

Don't get me wrong man, I'm a looooooong time Apple user. They still get my money. I'm picking up a iPad this weekend to make use of one app for a school project.

gay as fuck

I'm still rocking a MBP 7.1 with 16GB of RAM and a hybrid HDD :thumbsup

Once you go Mac .... You never go back!

Intel HD Graphics 4000 is what to be exact?

Garbage.

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gp...=Intel+HD+4000

*tumbleweed*

I'm curious to know what others think too.

:1orglaugh oh shit, you owe me a keyboard, mine has coffee all over it now.

I do too, I LOVE it, I'll never use anything else

I choose to ignore you because I know your responses already, and it's just gonna be a hating response instead of an intelligent response like candyflip gives.

Candyflip has my interest piqued about the Hackintoshes, as secondary machines. I may have to try one. Back when I messed with that stuff, it was all fairly new, buggy, and annoying to keep running. My main desktop and laptop will probably always be "true" Apple computers, if only because I'm an asshole at heart. The support borders on fanatical. They sent me another free graphics card (that makes two) on the outside chance mine was bad -- and my computer was NEVER under warranty, from day one (I bought it under a developer program). Cards are probably $600 for the pair .. craziness. They didn't even ask for the old ones back.

i7, u cant go wrong with that much power. Nice buy :thumbsup

Before I went full Mac, I was hesitant too and thought about the Hackintosh, but that was a few years ago and the process has improved a crap ton since.. I'm glad I went full Mac.

yes guys, macs are expensive, but time its money
my new mac take 7 seconds to start, 2 seconds to open photoshop.
Im mac user since 2010, and saved alot of time without turning off or blue screens, or restarting all the time.
Have no sense to me make a hackingtosh.. i already did that with a desktop machine last year, and its not the same thing
well, i know it was expensive but i know i will not have to buy a new mac in other 3 or 4 years or more, so, its become cheaper :)

Looking at the Mac Pro store is like visiting the Swiftwill website.
You get transported back in time.

Not to talk about their memory prices.
8GB 1333MHz DDR3 ECC RDIMM SDRAM - $300

Really? Ok it's called "Apple Memory Module" :error and you get free delivery, so must be okay...
It better be delivered on a silver platter by a naked hooker at that price.

The hackintosh I built last month boots up in less than 10 seconds and applications open instantly. The parts are all the same. Apple gets them from the same places everyone else does.

With the exception of the video cards, I believe everything else is incredibly similar if not completely identical .. and the video cards are only built the way they are because of the special airflow in the quiet-ass Apple cases (talking about my Mac Pro desktop here).