GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum

GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum (https://gfy.com/index.php)
-   Fucking Around & Business Discussion (https://gfy.com/forumdisplay.php?f=26)
-   -   Zombaio Please for the love of god do not steal my $40,000 (https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1111331)

BareBacked 06-03-2013 10:45 AM

what are your sites? sounds like you have some serious volume

Bman 06-03-2013 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kichi (Post 19652950)
Sorry. I meant to say I have 15 mids and I also had one 3rd party account which was Zombaio.

What are MIDS?

kichi 06-03-2013 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid70 (Post 19652853)
http://oi42.tinypic.com/2q9gtb4.jpg
Did you put 40k into a company named Zombaio?
Next, tell us you put 100k into Tarditional Trust -- ooops, typo! or not?

Thanks for contributing.

kichi 06-03-2013 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BareBacked (Post 19652959)
what are your sites? sounds like you have some serious volume

This isn't about my sites or volume. This is about getting Zombaio to take action and do what is right.

kichi 06-03-2013 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bman (Post 19652960)
What are MIDS?

Mid just means Merchant Identification Number. It is just another way of saying you have a direct merchant account with an acquirer.

EriktheRabbit 06-03-2013 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kichi (Post 19652967)
This isn't about my sites or volume. This is about getting Zombaio to take action and do what is right.

I would like to know what sites of yours caused this as well. Your hiding the sites is not a good indicator. Illegal content, bad traffic sources, rogue processor? One might assume your sites have everything to do with zombaio not paying you. if your sites are straight post them. I'd like to see what generates that kind of volume on a forgotten processor.

Antonio 06-03-2013 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EriktheRabbit (Post 19652983)
I would like to know what sites of yours caused this as well. Your hiding the sites is not a good indicator. Illegal content, bad traffic sources, rogue processor? One might assume your sites have everything to do with zombaio not paying you. if your sites are straight post them. I'd like to see what generates that kind of volume on a forgotten processor.

lame attempt to spy on his sites / methods, try harder

Lichen 06-03-2013 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kichi (Post 19652950)
Sorry. I meant to say I have 15 mids and I also had one 3rd party account which was Zombaio.

If you have 15 real MIDs, why on earth would you deal with Zombaio?

I used to process with them only until i got my own MID.

atom 06-03-2013 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 19652992)
lame attempt to spy on his sites / methods, try harder

hah, no shit.

EriktheRabbit 06-03-2013 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 19652992)
lame attempt to spy on his sites / methods, try harder

You his partner? :1orglaugh
I dont give a shit about his sites. There is obviously more to the story dumbass.

Google Expert 06-03-2013 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kichi (Post 19652955)
Yeah they pay on small accounts. They go after the big accounts out there and yes I have called many times. They don't pick up for me, or they do and hang up right away on me.

It doesn't sound like you are going to get your money back.

Sorry.

BareBacked 06-03-2013 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kichi (Post 19652967)
This isn't about my sites or volume. This is about getting Zombaio to take action and do what is right.

well I wish you luck in getting your money. Have a great day

Antonio 06-03-2013 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EriktheRabbit (Post 19653096)
I dont give a shit about his sites.

sure, you are keyboard warrior fighting for justice :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh Cunt!

If there's something shady about his sites or traffic, lets hear the other side of the story

Zombaio_Tomas 06-03-2013 02:07 PM

Dear OP and Board,
There is none stealing any money. If an account is closed with an excessive CB ratio or with penalties due to illegal transactions from Visa or MC we are holding funds until the storm is over or the fines are imposed.

Im not sure which case this is but I can guarantee none is hanging up on you on the support on any case.

OP, drop me an email please.

itx 06-03-2013 02:27 PM

Good luck, hope you get your money.

kichi 06-03-2013 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zombaio_Tomas (Post 19653262)
Dear OP and Board,
There is none stealing any money. If an account is closed with an excessive CB ratio or with penalties due to illegal transactions from Visa or MC we are holding funds until the storm is over or the fines are imposed.

Im not sure which case this is but I can guarantee none is hanging up on you on the support on any case.

OP, drop me an email please.

Finally! thank you very much for replying. I will email you now.

wizzart 06-03-2013 04:37 PM

dman that is lot of $

Google Expert 06-03-2013 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kichi (Post 19653294)
Finally! thank you very much for replying. I will email you now.

Keep us updated.

Jon 06-03-2013 05:25 PM

This sounds like typical ISO/third party passing the fees/fines onto the merchant who was likely doing some questionable things too.

There's not much information from either side to logically claim that its exactly this or that.

I'd be suspect of the OP's story, seems he isn't being as upfront about the situation as he should have been, but then again, it looks like he revealed what he did to provoke a response from the third party payment corp, and got precisely what he wanted, all without exposing himself or what he was doing. Its not a bad thing, I'd chalk this one up to him as a win.

Of course if you had been doing all of this through my payment system, you wouldn't be having any of these problems, because we don't practice the same nonsense that all of these third party reseller middlemen of other middlemen and zero-logic bank acquirers waste time with. But then again, it doesn't seem like you can reach our minimums anyway so I'm just going to be an asshole about it and leave it at that.

anexsia 06-03-2013 05:32 PM

Sounds like you need to hire Sara Swirls to fight Zombaio to the death for you! :)

_Richard_ 06-03-2013 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon (Post 19653511)
This sounds like typical ISO/third party passing the fees/fines onto the merchant who was likely doing some questionable things too.

There's not much information from either side to logically claim that its exactly this or that.

I'd be suspect of the OP's story, seems he isn't being as upfront about the situation as he should have been, but then again, it looks like he revealed what he did to provoke a response from the third party payment corp, and got precisely what he wanted, all without exposing himself or what he was doing. Its not a bad thing, I'd chalk this one up to him as a win.

Of course if you had been doing all of this through my payment system, you wouldn't be having any of these problems, because we don't practice the same nonsense that all of these third party reseller middlemen of other middlemen and zero-logic bank acquirers waste time with. But then again, it doesn't seem like you can reach our minimums anyway so I'm just going to be an asshole about it and leave it at that.

Jon from WF?

Jon 06-03-2013 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19653527)
Jon from WF?

Yes, Richard. Why?

EriktheRabbit 06-03-2013 05:49 PM

I hope it all works out for the OP. Good luck, kichi.

PornDiscounts-V 06-03-2013 06:37 PM

Crazy shit. Sad thing is the hold up and CB's probably had nothing to do with the OP. Somebody decided to use his site for their CC scamming and honest people get fucked while the banks protect themselves by holding the cash for months.

kichi 06-04-2013 01:55 AM

Tomas got back to me and they finally admitted to owing me money. The exact amount is $32,627.00

They explained how my chargebacks were too high and fines from mastercard and visa will most likely eat up all of my $32,627 but they will get back to me in September letting me know.

I know for a fact mastercard and visa will not fine me. Overall cb rate on my account was 1.69%.

Here is what most people do not understand. Visa and MasterCard look at the VOLUME and chargeback rate. If someone does 100 sale and gets 10 chargebacks, then that is a 10% cb rate. I can guarantee you that nothing will happen to that account. It doesn't work like that. Since I was also most likely on an aggregated account then it really wouldn't matter if I had one bad month.

Has anyone here ever had a Zombaio account closed and gotten paid?

Marcus Aurelius 06-04-2013 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kichi (Post 19653874)
If someone does 100 sale and gets 10 chargebacks, then that is a 10% cb rate. I can guarantee you that nothing will happen to that account. It doesn't work like that. Since I was also most likely on an aggregated account then it really wouldn't matter if I had one bad month.

You also were on a shared account. Middle men watch their accounts CBs and can load balance before it becomes a problem. The story about VISA/MC fines is bullshit.

Ferus 06-04-2013 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kichi (Post 19653874)
but they will get back to me in September letting me know.

:Oh crap

How many chargeback did you have? That have to be a LOT of chargebacks to reach those fines from mastercard and visa.

Oracle Porn 06-04-2013 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius (Post 19653879)
You also were on a shared account. Middle men watch their accounts CBs and can load balance before it becomes a problem. The story about VISA/MC fines is bullshit.

:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

kichi 06-04-2013 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vvvvv (Post 19653608)
Crazy shit. Sad thing is the hold up and CB's probably had nothing to do with the OP. Somebody decided to use his site for their CC scamming and honest people get fucked while the banks protect themselves by holding the cash for months.

Nah. I load balanced this zombaio account with about 4 others and sent all 5 mid's the same traffic and I had absolutely no issues with the other accounts and cb's.

I think they switched banks. I looked at the cb's I got and they were from 4 months of sales. Why report 4 months of cb's in 1 day? I got them reported to me in 1 day! So there I was streaming along thinking everything was fine, then BAMN, 10% cb's and your account is gonzo all in 1 day. It just is not fair.

Harmon 06-04-2013 02:20 AM

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Never do business with any company that employs Michael O :2 cents:

kichi 06-04-2013 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferus (Post 19653880)
:Oh crap

How many chargeback did you have? That have to be a LOT of chargebacks to reach those fines from mastercard and visa.

I got about 50 cb's but it was 3 to 4 months worth. I didn't have any cb's for about 4 months. Then one day I get 50. Something just doesn't add up.

Lichen 06-04-2013 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kichi (Post 19653884)
I think they switched banks. I looked at the cb's I got and they were from 4 months of sales. Why report 4 months of cb's in 1 day?

CB ratios are calculated on a monthly basis and taken into account for the previous month's transactions.

kichi 06-04-2013 02:27 AM

I am calling it now. They will send me a standard form letter that visa and mastercard send out in September stating that they were fined $15,000 to $18,000 for excessive chargebacks due to account # blah blah blah and when I ask them what account number that is they will say it was the aggregated account I was under with them.

So Basically it will prove nothing.

Hey, If they can absolutely prove that they were fined $32,000 cause of my cb's then I will come on this forum and tell the world Zombaio did NOT steal my money.

Konda 06-04-2013 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kichi (Post 19653874)
Tomas got back to me and they finally admitted to owing me money. The exact amount is $32,627.00

They explained how my chargebacks were too high and fines from mastercard and visa will most likely eat up all of my $32,627 but they will get back to me in September letting me know.

I know for a fact mastercard and visa will not fine me. Overall cb rate on my account was 1.69%.

Here is what most people do not understand. Visa and MasterCard look at the VOLUME and chargeback rate. If someone does 100 sale and gets 10 chargebacks, then that is a 10% cb rate. I can guarantee you that nothing will happen to that account. It doesn't work like that. Since I was also most likely on an aggregated account then it really wouldn't matter if I had one bad month.

Also you usually don't get fined if you have excessive chargebacks for just 1 month. Usually you get warnings first and if it keeps continuing you get fines. Also you usually need to be above a certain amount of CBs (I think it's 150 CBs for Visa EU) in a month before it becomes really an issue.

Marcus Aurelius 06-04-2013 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konda (Post 19653904)
Also you usually don't get fined if you have excessive chargebacks for just 1 month. Usually you get warnings first and if it keeps continuing you get fines. Also you usually need to be above a certain amount of CBs (I think it's 150 CBs for Visa EU) in a month before it becomes really an issue.

This is correct.

Zombaio is feeding you bullshit.

sojproductions 06-04-2013 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius (Post 19653906)
This is correct.

Zombaio is feeding you bullshit.

:2 cents:

seXXXhub 06-04-2013 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EriktheRabbit (Post 19652983)
I would like to know what sites of yours caused this as well. Your hiding the sites is not a good indicator. Illegal content, bad traffic sources, rogue processor? One might assume your sites have everything to do with zombaio not paying you. if your sites are straight post them. I'd like to see what generates that kind of volume on a forgotten processor.

here comes the troll ... GTFO !!!:321GFY

PornDude 06-04-2013 04:46 AM

They didn't steal your money they just put it on hold and hope you forget about it.

NewNick 06-04-2013 07:03 AM

Why does everyone blame the biller for their fuck ups ...........................???????????

SwirlsGirl 06-04-2013 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kichi (Post 19653874)
Tomas got back to me and they finally admitted to owing me money. The exact amount is $32,627.00

They explained how my chargebacks were too high and fines from mastercard and visa will most likely eat up all of my $32,627 but they will get back to me in September letting me know.

I know for a fact mastercard and visa will not fine me. Overall cb rate on my account was 1.69%.

Here is what most people do not understand. Visa and MasterCard look at the VOLUME and chargeback rate. If someone does 100 sale and gets 10 chargebacks, then that is a 10% cb rate. I can guarantee you that nothing will happen to that account. It doesn't work like that. Since I was also most likely on an aggregated account then it really wouldn't matter if I had one bad month.

Has anyone here ever had a Zombaio account closed and gotten paid?

Yes and No....

We started processing just fine with zombaio back in 2008 for about 3 and a half years without any issues what so ever!

1 charge back and I mean literally only 1 single charge back in 3 1/2 years on thousands of transactions.

Payouts were never late until shortly after the arrival of Michael O to the company.

Payouts started to get disorderly as well as late. I mean recurring payout issues one after the other.

I came to the boards and let zombaio know it was unacceptable.

SO I knew demanding they stop screwing up payouts might have repercussions and it did...They waited for the most flimsy reason they could find to close our account and they did.

They paid me the settlements that were due and they were behind like 3 payouts, so they paid all the payouts in at once.... BUT THEY KEPT ALL REBILLS and have yet to send me any proof that they have not pocketed the 3 years of accumulated rebills

Hope this helps show you a thing or two about middlemenry and why you need to be on the offensive with them...give them an inch and they will literally take a thousand


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:59 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
©2000-, AI Media Network Inc123