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shimmy2 07-04-2013 01:45 PM

my opinion here... if u dont own a site but blog with others content u need fresh unique content to blog about along with a journal or podcast just to stay relevant. put yourself out there if u wanna get paid my nigga. come to DR, CR, PI, or thailand then blog about ur unique experience, and promote appropriate niche sponsors that convert like crack...

john1975 07-04-2013 01:48 PM

Flexible white labels are the key to the future. The more template edits allowed, the better.

Just putting banners on your site RUINS your seo these days... Putting 2 to 3 banners on my site completely KILL my google keyword positions these days. so, banners are REALLY startin to f sht up. The best is to put original content, and most importantly...original text descriptions on your sites...and without outbound links. The more u do this, the chances of gettin google keyword traffic dramatically go up. Most adult webmasters aren't that bright...and usually just think along the lines of "yo yo yo....i gonna put mad banners on my site...and make mad money".


white labels, white labels, white labels....and the more customized and distinguished they are , they better. You MUST customize the meta tags towards the keywords in your domain...otherwise it's a complete waste.

For signups, organic google keywords (or bing, yahoo, etc) are the best. With good keywords, you could have a 1-20 signup ratio frequently....with just clicks from other sites it can go up to 1-1,000,000,000 .

This is why people obsess and drive themselves nuts with Google. (like myself)

With the latest friggin penguin update, my sht got f'd up even more. and i'm still fuming over it. It's like we live and die over google...right ?

Also, if u run a blog site...at the top of each site...put a little original description up there to fool the visitors....most people lookin at porn will believe anything. something like this will work -

"Last year we were voted as the top ranked adult provider on the net, with award winning 24/7 customer service"

just some junk like that works fine....there's noway to prove if it's right/ or wrong....plus , most sites are deceptive like this anyway....it's just the way of the internet.... just look at peoples FB's profiles these days....it's deception galore....but if it makes them money, more power to em.

It'll help your signup rates, telling your visitors how powerful and well-liked of a site u have. (even if ur full of sh*t)

also, mike...I completely hear ya with trying to go back and work at a normal job....when doing something like this for so many years. I don't think I could EVER go back myself to a normal job.

hang in there and concentrate on Google keyword traffic / find some good white label programs.

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mineistaken 07-04-2013 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 19701791)
Then if you can build up thousands of visitors a day you could make a lot of money.

People do not pay for regular paysites, why would they pay for those sites that accept micro payments? Besides that it would be cheaper. Principle is still here - people do not want to pay for porn.

Jel 07-04-2013 02:06 PM

1% ctr on blogs? You guys know about good text links in posts right? Linking pics to tours? 10% ctr and more is still piss easy with blogs. Getting the traffic in the first place, not so much (for me anyway).

mineistaken 07-04-2013 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 19702704)

that's assuming a 0.75 CTR. With my content/promo tools I see these CTRs:

Tubes (does depend but averaging them altogether): 2.50
Blogs: 3.50

Could you explain a bit how do you count CTR on your blogs?
I count CTR this way:
If 1000 people lands on my blog and 200 of them clicks aff link and hits my sponsor it means 20% CTR for me. And I thought it was bad CTR, but seeing you post 3.50 I am confused.

john1975 07-04-2013 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19702894)
People do not pay for regular paysites, why would they pay for those sites that accept micro payments? Besides that it would be cheaper. Principle is still here - people do not want to pay for porn.

I thought the same until I started sprucing up the wording of the 'benefits' of what subscribing members get...and then the signups came back. You really gotta get creative.

be sure to mention new sht....like how "all our content is Now viewable on iPads, Mobiles, PS3's, and practically anything".

mention how they'll get "tons of exclusive HD content...not viewable anywhere else , Frequent Updates , Safe and secure transactions with easy cancellations"


also , if you run a blog site and the owner of it is a hot chick....put stuff like

"once your a member, keeping in contact is so much easier ;-) "


To their mind....who knows what that means to them...even if ur an old, fat dude writing it...

just some more radical tips. :)

mineistaken 07-04-2013 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 19702796)
Mike I've seen you post several threads like this over the years and you always seem to blow off advice. I offered one-on-one help with you once, I never heard from you. I see others offering good help to you as well and you blow them off.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 19702767)
I've actually read through a bunch of Mike's posts and can say he doesn't take people's advice or offers of help. He ignored me in this thread and has ignored others, too.

I agree, I read his posts since around 2006 and he always, always ignored advice. Most notorious - everybody advised him not to build thumblogger's business and instead build on his own domain/domains. This was just one of the many advices or offers he ignored.

mineistaken 07-04-2013 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by anexsia (Post 19702806)

Hell even if you're not converting well you can make money just by redirecting all your mobile.

Tell us more, what is expected income from those redirects?

globofun 07-04-2013 02:36 PM

What a great thread guys!

Jel 07-04-2013 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19702915)
I agree, I read his posts since around 2006 and he always, always ignored advice. Most notorious - everybody advised him not to build thumblogger's business and instead build on his own domain/domains. This was just one of the many advices or offers he ignored.

Some of us have to take a real hit before we become teachable. Been guilty of this trait many times myself in the past :2 cents:

mineistaken 07-04-2013 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jel (Post 19702931)
Some of us have to take a real hit before we become teachable. Been guilty of this trait many times myself in the past :2 cents:

That is true, but mike's case is extreme in this regard. I mean even in this thread he does not take up on offers, some people even wanted to hire him and he "does not have samples" :)
Didn't he even build any single blog since TB collapsed to show as sample? If not - can't he cook few samples in 30 minutes? No, its better to just reply "I have nothing to show" and continue to ignore any other advice as well.
It looks pathological, its like he reads any offer/advice, after that he reads another post/reply and forgets the offer/advice from the previous post. Or something like that :)
Another example - some guy offered private help and had to repeat that one more time for mike to even contact him..

Magnetron 07-04-2013 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 19701772)
I am starting out from scratch rebuilding all my blogs on one multisite WP install.

I have only $200-300 in rebills coming in each month, looking at my stats my last new sale this year was back in January.

Is it even worth it to blog anymore?......................

One sale in January.
Thumblogger went down in April.
The answer to your question is, NO.

I remember being one of a handful of people at The Pond back in early 2009 trying to convince you to channel your efforts into creating a few of your own [ quality ] sites that could attract as just many if not more surfers than all your blogs and splogs combined.

I am going to recommend it again.

Even a single page site with less than 1K daily traffic can bring in $250 or more per month in new sales + rebills in exchange for $150 yearly hosting and 1-2 hours per week performing design tweaks and SEO.

signupdamnit 07-04-2013 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19702894)
People do not pay for regular paysites, why would they pay for those sites that accept micro payments? Besides that it would be cheaper. Principle is still here - people do not want to pay for porn.

The resistance is much less at $0.10 to $0.99 per month or week or year than it is at $10.00 - $40.00 a month. It's easier to justify too.

"We took off all the ads on our site and we give you 30,000 videos, 200,000 photos, and 5,000 stories all for only $0.10 a month to help us pay for our servers. One stinking dime gets you all this!"

You could do it by voluntary donations or you could flat out restrict access until it's paid or some combination thereof. I really think it could work well. But you have to offer something unique or have some sort of unique spin on it. The sites I have it in mind for aren't porn and are somewhat unique. I know people would bite if there were a convenient and safe payment method to do it.

signupdamnit 07-04-2013 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jel (Post 19702902)
1% ctr on blogs? You guys know about good text links in posts right? Linking pics to tours? 10% ctr and more is still piss easy with blogs. Getting the traffic in the first place, not so much (for me anyway).

On blog posts where you are linking pics to the sponsor, yes. On the sidebars or headers/footers, no. The sites I'm working with are closest to tubes than blogs. Paysites are on the sidebar only atm. I had them on the top header but the numbers were bad and I had to move them off.

Jel 07-04-2013 03:28 PM

change your banners to what look like videos with a play button. Semi-blind but your ctr will jump for sure. the top header is the only part of your page that is 100% guaranteed to be seen by 100% of visitors. Think about that.

No text at all under or above the vids in the tube-style blogs? You need text with links within to get your ctr flowing..

DVTimes 07-04-2013 03:54 PM

hope things get better

signupdamnit 07-04-2013 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jel (Post 19702983)
change your banners to what look like videos with a play button. Semi-blind but your ctr will jump for sure. the top header is the only part of your page that is 100% guaranteed to be seen by 100% of visitors. Think about that.

No text at all under or above the vids in the tube-style blogs? You need text with links within to get your ctr flowing..

Thanks Jel. I've tried odd sized banners there. I did try a closeup photo in that spot with the implication that it needed to be clicked to see the whole thing. That got 1.5% ctr but the conversions weren't there and the ctr trickled away over time.

It's a high user interaction site and fits more with the demographics of a forum. So you get the same people over and over with some new ones mixed in. It's not the type of site where you hope people will come through from Google, click a sponsor and then go away to come back next week or month maybe. I don't want to say much more so as to not give away what I'm doing :) but it's more meant to sell dating although years ago it would have also been able to sell adult paysites like crazy too. Unfortunately although I don't put up porn on my site or allow it most of my users seem to know where to go to get all the free porn they could ever need. They are highly savvy. :(

AmeliaG 07-04-2013 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 19701772)
I am starting out from scratch rebuilding all my blogs on one multisite WP install.

I have only $200-300 in rebills coming in each month, looking at my stats my last new sale this year was back in January.

Is it even worth it to blog anymore? Am I working for pennies? If I can't see at least $0.50-1.00 in profit for each 50-200 word blog post I make within the first year of posting it how do I justify working in adult even if it is just extra income?

I know right now I'm going to need to get a job for the first time in 8 years but it's hard finding work when you have no skills or experience. For me it's even harder because I have U.C and when I'm on the job it's not uncommon for me to have to use the bathroom 1-2 times per hour and that's on a good day. I could qualify for government assistance because of my health but I can't do that because of the living situation I'm in right now. In a year or so my situation will be different but right now I need my own income to survive.

Lately It's really hard for me to fall asleep at night and when I wake up I feel kind of panicky.

So is the affiliate model dead or is this a hiccup?


I surely hope the economy rebounds more soon.

Semi off-topic, but I know some folks who were helped by products from farrlabs.com and some doctors (maybe a clinic?) can give you a first time coupon for a freebie. You might even just be able to email the site and ask for a free sample to try out. If it lets you work in a different environment, then you'll be able to afford refills and, if it doesn't work for you, nothing lost.

Colmike9 07-04-2013 04:47 PM

100 times Twan didn't approve Mike's blog.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jel (Post 19702983)
the top header is the only part of your page that is 100% guaranteed to be seen by 100% of visitors. Think about that.

Yep. That's why Google weighs more with content above the fold(break?.. whatever it's called)


Hey Mike, maybe try making blogs in a review/free site style tour and pop up the join page and do it paysite specific. I do that and make sales every single day at 1:500ish. Email me if you might want to work on sales. mike at ruseful.com

The Porn Nerd 07-04-2013 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19702908)
Could you explain a bit how do you count CTR on your blogs?
I count CTR this way:
If 1000 people lands on my blog and 200 of them clicks aff link and hits my sponsor it means 20% CTR for me. And I thought it was bad CTR, but seeing you post 3.50 I am confused.

If you're getting a 20% CTR on your Blogs then YOU are doing something right! That's exactly how I classify CTR - the rates from Blogs is what my affs tell me while the CTR from banners, tubes and ads i can for myself.

Most of my "blog" affiliates have blog farms and do the 'throw everything at the wall' strategy. LOL Maybe that's why it's where it is.

You're doing great work tho if you're getting a 20% CTR on your Blogs. Well done!! :)

Adam_M 07-04-2013 05:11 PM

Tough to see so many people hurting in the industry. Hope you can find yourself and winner soon

$5 submissions 07-04-2013 07:24 PM


Paully 07-05-2013 12:37 AM

All of my affiliates do 1:4600 or better. I have one guy thats 1:12,000 but he's sending shit from blogs and dating sites far as I can tell.

Still at 100,000 uniques a month you would make some money with me. I had 2 affiliates send 64.95/3 month sign ups. They got 32.50 each. One sale each. My rollover to full membership on trial is pretty good even with referrals, 77% from organic 50% from referral.

Not too shabby.

Get a zombaio account and promote my line and you'll make some money.


https://secure.zombaio.com/SignUp/Affiliate/?45675081


Paully

babymaker 07-05-2013 12:46 AM

You will pull through, just do some blog writting as others said, if you only need $20 a day to not need a out of house job then $20 blog writting is easy, in 3 hours or so a day. You already got offers, but if you need more hit up Riggo his partner is awaying needing good english speaking bloggers and pays out daily pax or PP. I hate blog writting so preffer to just work offline getting excersise now that I had to get a side job, but hit up Riggo or one of the others. Will give you some peace of mind at least.

mineistaken 07-05-2013 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 19703064)
If you're getting a 20% CTR on your Blogs then YOU are doing something right! That's exactly how I classify CTR - the rates from Blogs is what my affs tell me while the CTR from banners, tubes and ads i can for myself.

Most of my "blog" affiliates have blog farms and do the 'throw everything at the wall' strategy. LOL Maybe that's why it's where it is.

You're doing great work tho if you're getting a 20% CTR on your Blogs. Well done!! :)

Then I do not even imagine how someone could have 3.5% CTR on blogs. Like Jel said, simple text link on each blog posts should generate easy 10% CTR. I mean its impossible that out of 100 visitors only 3 CLICKS to sponsor. Sole point of blog is to make them click, principle of blog is that you intrigue the surfer and guide them to "click if you want to see more". So at the very least 10% should be bare minimum number imho.

mineistaken 07-05-2013 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paully (Post 19703376)
All of my affiliates do 1:4600 or better. I have one guy thats 1:12,000 but he's sending shit from blogs and dating sites far as I can tell.

Still at 100,000 uniques a month you would make some money with me. I had 2 affiliates send 64.95/3 month sign ups. They got 32.50 each. One sale each. My rollover to full membership on trial is pretty good even with referrals, 77% from organic 50% from referral.

Not too shabby.

Get a zombaio account and promote my line and you'll make some money.


https://secure.zombaio.com/SignUp/Affiliate/?45675081


Paully

Respect for posting ratios that actually sound genuine. :thumbsup

Paul 07-05-2013 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 19702796)
Mike I've seen you post several threads like this over the years and you always seem to blow off advice. I offered one-on-one help with you once, I never heard from you. I see others offering good help to you as well and you blow them off.

I understand that you have a health condition that creates complications for you, but trust me, you are not the only one in this industry that has problematic health conditions. That is one of the great things about adult and the Internet in general, it allows people like you to showcase their strengths and minimize their weaknesses.

Stop feeling sorry for yourself and get back to work. Take up some of the nice offers that have been listed in this thread while you get back on your feet and begin moving forward.

Well said! :thumbsup

The fact is 99% of people who makes these threads are just too bloody lazy to help themselves and put the hard work in :2 cents:

scarlettcontent 07-05-2013 06:02 AM

youll be fine


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