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tonyparra 07-06-2013 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 19705655)
Zimmerman has stated that he did not shoot Martin because he was in a fist fight...or was on the losing end of a fight. He has stated that when his jacket pulled up and Martin spotted his handgun and went for the gun...while uttering a threat to his life...that is when he beat Martin to the gun and then he shot him.

LOL and where did that happen? In the matrix?

baddog 07-06-2013 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyparra (Post 19705701)
LOL and where did that happen? In the matrix?

Try listening to testimony. :2 cents:

rogueteens 07-06-2013 02:04 PM

I was totally on the boys side but then read a comment on that Gawker page...
"This guy is clearly a crazy a-hole, but I hope those little f-er's are arrested too. Yeah let's cut people off, and videotape them when they're angry. They could have called the cops and not had a brawl. Keepin' it classy kids!!!"

He's right, both sides are as bad as each other.

blackmonsters 07-06-2013 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 19705727)
I was totally on the boys side but then read a comment on that Gawker page...
"This guy is clearly a crazy a-hole, but I hope those little f-er's are arrested too. Yeah let's cut people off, and videotape them when they're angry. They could have called the cops and not had a brawl. Keepin' it classy kids!!!"

He's right, both sides are as bad as each other.

Bullshit!

That dude came over to the kids car and punched him in the face then got his ass beat for it.

Then he got a gun.

The shooting is not on the video tape.

ReggieDurango 07-06-2013 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 19705727)
I was totally on the boys side but then read a comment on that Gawker page...
"This guy is clearly a crazy a-hole, but I hope those little f-er's are arrested too. Yeah let's cut people off, and videotape them when they're angry. They could have called the cops and not had a brawl. Keepin' it classy kids!!!"

He's right, both sides are as bad as each other.

what the fuck are you talking about? The guy punched the kid in the face, is he supposed to just call the cops and wait for them come wHile the old guy keeps punching him in the face?

rogueteens 07-06-2013 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 19705735)
Bullshit!

That dude came over to the kids car and punched him in the face then got his ass beat for it.

Then he got a gun.

The shooting is not on the video tape.

like I said, they are as bad as each other but the fact is they were already filming, why? they knew they'd pissed someone off by driving badly?
And yes, he did throw the first punch which is why I was on the kid's side first of all but once the bloke hit the deck they just kept on putting the boot in. they all should face charges.

dyna mo 07-06-2013 02:21 PM

the wife is to blame. female with a gun, duh.

sicone 07-06-2013 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19705408)
So when Martin punched Zimmerman it's considered life threatening, but when two kids smack around an older man it's... Just a fist fight?

I don't see the difference between the two. Both were fist fights.

You should do an experiment for us. Allow a person to punch you in the face while standing, then allow that same person to get on top of you with you on the ground, head against the cement and let him punch you in the face again. Report back to us if there is any difference.

dillfly2000 07-06-2013 02:25 PM

Wouldn't it be nice if people wouldn't rage over stupid little things?

Ive had my share of road rage arguments, I drive slower (not very) and safer than usual, but the guy behind me thinks its their duty to give me shit about it.

Well they can go fuck themselves.

I'm pretty good with words, sometimes they end up apologizing, and sometimes they give the finger and speed off like they own the fucking world.

Nothing you can do, some people are just natural dicks.

blackmonsters 07-06-2013 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 19705746)
like I said, they are as bad as each other but the fact is they were already filming, why? they knew they'd pissed someone off by driving badly?
And yes, he did throw the first punch which is why I was on the kid's side first of all but once the bloke hit the deck they just kept on putting the boot in. they all should face charges.

Bullshit!

They threw the guy back onto the truck and he went down and they never touched him
after that. They popped him in the face until he was down and they should have.

Bottom line, he followed them home because he knew he had a gun!

So when someone follows you home they are dangerous.

Trayvon beat Zimmerman's ass for the same reason the same way.
See the bloody nose and back of the head hitting the truck and concrete?

Exact same wounds, exact same shit.

SilentKnight 07-06-2013 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19705647)
Even if he had not fired a shot, he was wrong for pulling the gun; they were retreating. See, this is where the audio is weird or his wife [accidentally?] discharged it before handing it to him.

Actually, just watched it two more times and I don't know if that first noise is a shot or not. He was pretty dumb approaching a truck that had at least three people in it.

I watched it a few times - fairly sure the first noise is his head slamming against the vehicle fender. The sound sync seems fairly accurate - judging by the smack sounds as the kids' fists hit him.

theking 07-06-2013 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyparra (Post 19705701)
LOL and where did that happen? In the matrix?

It is what Zimmerman told the police in his multiple statements to the police as placed in evidence...by the prosecution...at the trial. It is what Zimmerman told his father and friends...after the incident took place...as reported by his father and friends...to the media.

blackmonsters 07-06-2013 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sicone (Post 19705749)
You should do an experiment for us. Allow a person to punch you in the face while standing, then allow that same person to get on top of you with you on the ground, head against the cement and let him punch you in the face again. Report back to us if there is any difference.

You're so way off.

When I punch standing up I will put the thrust of my legs into the punch.
No way can I hit as hard on my knees, it's ridiculous.

Please show me the UFC knock out punch thrown from the ground in this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DoVLN_ZwF4


Hint, there isn't one.

blackmonsters 07-06-2013 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 19705762)
I watched it a few times - fairly sure the first noise is his head slamming against the vehicle fender. The sound sync seems fairly accurate - judging by the smack sounds as the kids' fists hit him.

The news article clearly states that this video is taken before the shooting occurred.
Dumb motherfuckers rather argue than read.

:1orglaugh

Rochard 07-06-2013 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 19705511)
but thats not what happened. the guy came at these kids, punching them, they fought back and the guy was losing so out comes the gun. the guy shouldn't of started something he couldn't finish on his own.

Which is pretty much what happened to Zimmerman, although we aren't sure who started it. When are you on the loosing end of a fight and you are armed... You pull your firearm and that ends that.

blackmonsters 07-06-2013 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19705799)
Which is pretty much what happened to Zimmerman, although we aren't sure who started it. When are you on the loosing end of a fight and you are armed... You pull your firearm and that ends that.

I'm pretty sure that Trayvon is not on the phone talking to the cops and following Zimmerman.

If you are following me then you already started some shit.

:2 cents:

Rochard 07-06-2013 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by sicone (Post 19705749)
You should do an experiment for us. Allow a person to punch you in the face while standing, then allow that same person to get on top of you with you on the ground, head against the cement and let him punch you in the face again. Report back to us if there is any difference.

Been there, done that. I was beat to an inch of my life. My beat down wasn't a minute long, it was two hours. I spent a week in the hospital recovering.

sicone 07-06-2013 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 19705791)
You're so way off.

When I punch standing up I will put the thrust of my legs into the punch.
No way can I hit as hard on my knees, it's ridiculous.

Please show me the UFC knock out punch thrown from the ground in this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DoVLN_ZwF4


Hint, there isn't one.

Show me which one of those guys has the back of his head against the cement. Then report back back to me who's way off....

Hint... you can't. But I'll give you half a golf clap for effort.

But to explain my point... Getting hit in the head while your head is against an object, say like the cement, the cement will cause a lot more damage to that area of the head than to the area being hit. Both the area being hit and the area against the cement will take damage.

Now lets add in that the head being hit has no where to move (i.e.... snapping back when hit while on your feet), now I may not be a Dr. but I think it's safe to say that is likely to multiply the damage.

sicone 07-06-2013 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19705818)
Been there, done that. I was beat to an inch of my life. My beat down wasn't a minute long, it was two hours. I spent a week in the hospital recovering.

I remember you telling me this before. Some people are just viscous asshats with no regard for others

blackmonsters 07-06-2013 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sicone (Post 19705833)
Show me which one of those guys has the back of his head against the cement. Then report back back to me who's way off....

Hint... you can't. But I'll give you half a golf clap for effort.

But to explain my point... Getting hit in the head while your head is against an object, say like the cement, the cement will cause a lot more damage to that area of the head than to the area being hit. Both the area being hit and the area against the cement will take damage.

Now lets add in that the head being hit has no where to move (i.e.... snapping back when hit while on your feet), now I may not be a Dr. but I think it's safe to say that is likely to multiply the damage.


Zimmerman's injuries were insignificant.
The dude scraped his head on the concrete, the skin is not split like his head was slammed.
Pure fiction.

Zimbo got his ass beat just like the dude in the video than pulled out a gun.

rogueteens 07-06-2013 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 19705761)
Bottom line, he followed them home because he knew he had a gun!

He didn't exit the car with the gun, the wife brought it out after he'd been slapped around. it's not like he walked up to the car right away and stuck the gun through the window. anyway, it's not like I care, they are all as bad as each other.

Rochard 07-06-2013 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by sicone (Post 19705836)
I remember you telling me this before. Some people are just viscous asshats with no regard for others

You know... It's a long story, but there was two of them. I got a long, paid vacation and they went to prison. I follow both of them.... Both of them have spent the rest of their lives bouncing in and out of prison for the past twenty years. It's kind of fun to watch.

nico-t 07-07-2013 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by tonyparra (Post 19705344)
This was videotaped. If Zimmerman was recorded we would know exactly what happened there too.

really? ..

tonyparra 07-07-2013 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 19705846)
Zimmerman's injuries were insignificant.
The dude scraped his head on the concrete, the skin is not split like his head was slammed.
Pure fiction.

Zimbo got his ass beat just like the dude in the video than pulled out a gun.

This is basically the testimony of the prosecutors medical examiner.

baddog 07-07-2013 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by tonyparra (Post 19706326)
This is basically the testimony of the prosecutors medical examiner.

You mean the chick that based her testimony on photographs rather than examining GZ personally? Yeah, that is some pretty damning evidence. :1orglaugh

GregE 07-07-2013 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 19705735)
Bullshit!

That dude came over to the kids car and punched him in the face then got his ass beat for it.

Then he got a gun.

The shooting is not on the video tape.

You're right, the shooting wasn't on the videotape.

And the incident that preceded this altercation wasn't either.

Who's to say that the kids didn't deliberately cut the guy off just for shits and giggles?

The guy with the gun was clearly in the wrong, but I'm not exactly convinced that he's the only one there that was.

madm1k3 07-07-2013 11:59 AM

Basically half of GFY seems to think if you pick a fight and get your ass kicked because your a weak bitch then you should be allowed to shoot the guy beating on you.

According to some people all you need to do to justify murder is goat someone into punching you in the face. Then its fair game.

Guess its never been a better time to be a shit talking, fight starting pussy in the USA

baddog 07-07-2013 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by madm1k3 (Post 19706667)
Basically half of GFY seems to think if you pick a fight and get your ass kicked because your a weak bitch then you should be allowed to shoot the guy beating on you.

Where did you read that?

BlackCrayon 07-07-2013 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GregE (Post 19706623)
You're right, the shooting wasn't on the videotape.

And the incident that preceded this altercation wasn't either.

Who's to say that the kids didn't deliberately cut the guy off just for shits and giggles?

The guy with the gun was clearly in the wrong, but I'm not exactly convinced that he's the only one there that was.

does it really matter if the kids cut him off or something similar? i can see it now..ah yes your honor, i punched the driver of that truck because he cut me off. oh really, well in that case all charges are dropped...mmhmm someones purposely bad driving is not an excuse for assault.

Rochard 07-07-2013 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by madm1k3 (Post 19706667)
Basically half of GFY seems to think if you pick a fight and get your ass kicked because your a weak bitch then you should be allowed to shoot the guy beating on you.

According to some people all you need to do to justify murder is goat someone into punching you in the face. Then its fair game.

Guess its never been a better time to be a shit talking, fight starting pussy in the USA

That's my point - according to some of the folk here on GFY (with an average IQ only slightly higher than an insane asylum) it could be considered life threatening and you can now kill and shoot them.

This guy was slammed up against his truck by two guys, Zimmerman was punched in the face? What's the difference? They are both not life threatening.

_Richard_ 07-07-2013 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 19705812)

If you are following me then you already started some shit.

:2 cents:

:2 cents::2 cents:

mozadek 07-07-2013 12:47 PM

Typical gun carrying pussy, if he did not have a gun he would of not have followed those kids, proceed to pick a fight and get his ass kicked. Then to save face and be a tough guy, he has to pull out his gun and fire a shot. The DA's office need to make an example of this guy.

candyflip 07-07-2013 12:49 PM

Posting 4 month old news is fucking awesome!!!

This was here on GFY when it actually happened, why do we need another? :1orglaugh

BlackCrayon 07-07-2013 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 19706730)
Posting 4 month old news is fucking awesome!!!

This was here on GFY when it actually happened, why do we need another? :1orglaugh

because 20/20 did a piece on road rage and featured this incident so i guess people either thought it was new or didn't hear of it before.

crockett 07-07-2013 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19706717)
That's my point - according to some of the folk here on GFY (with an average IQ only slightly higher than an insane asylum) it could be considered life threatening and you can now kill and shoot them.

This guy was slammed up against his truck by two guys, Zimmerman was punched in the face? What's the difference? They are both not life threatening.

You can easily be beaten to death. It's happened many many times.

How is one to know if the fight you are in, is going to go that far?

With Zimmerman, the kid was on top of him and not stopping. This means it had the potential to go too far because the kid didn't stop when he knocked Zim down.

Meanwhile, these two kids clearly walked away after the guy with the gun went down.

That is the major difference.

GregE 07-07-2013 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 19706716)
does it really matter if the kids cut him off or something similar? i can see it now..ah yes your honor, i punched the driver of that truck because he cut me off. oh really, well in that case all charges are dropped...mmhmm someones purposely bad driving is not an excuse for assault.

Like I said, the guy that punched the driver was clearly in the wrong.

But...

There's a huge difference between accidentally cutting someone off and deliberately causing a potentially life threatening road hazard.

Of course, we have no way of knowing what actually happened before the camera went on.

But, be that as it may, my gut tells me it wasn't some small little thing.

pimpmaster9000 07-07-2013 03:22 PM

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theking 07-07-2013 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 19705846)
Zimmerman's injuries were insignificant.
The dude scraped his head on the concrete, the skin is not split like his head was slammed.
Pure fiction.

Zimbo got his ass beat just like the dude in the video than pulled out a gun.

Getting his ass beat is not his stated reason for pulling his gun and never has been his stated reason...and is not his legal defense at trial.

Rochard 07-07-2013 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 19706739)
You can easily be beaten to death. It's happened many many times.

How is one to know if the fight you are in, is going to go that far?

With Zimmerman, the kid was on top of him and not stopping. This means it had the potential to go too far because the kid didn't stop when he knocked Zim down.

Meanwhile, these two kids clearly walked away after the guy with the gun went down.

That is the major difference.

Of course you can be beaten to death, but 99.9% of the time fist fights end with both parties still living.

How is one to know how far the fight is going to go? That's part of the problem because you don't know this when the fight starts, and after the first few solid rounds land you aren't thinking straight, adrenaline kicks in, and your instincts focus only on survival.

In both of these two examples this is not life threatening in either way. We can't start shit with people, then pull out a gun and shoot people dead when you get your ass beat down. In the case of Zimmerman the police were already enroute, and multiple people had heard his calls for help... Seconds after the shooting witnesses had arrived on the scene to help - Zimmerman was asking them to "restrain" Martin.

Zimmerman was a fist fight that ended with a seventeen year old getting shot and killed.

brassmonkey 07-07-2013 06:17 PM

damn his wife handed him the gat. it was his job to use it

Just Alex 07-07-2013 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyparra (Post 19705344)
This was videotaped. If Zimmerman was recorded we would know exactly what happened there too.

But you wouldn't shut the fuck up anyway

tonyparra 07-07-2013 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 19707028)
But you wouldn't shut the fuck up anyway

I like the truth dude thats it. And Zimerman lies too much.

Colmike9 07-07-2013 07:17 PM

That piece of shit went up to the other guy's car and threw the first punch. If anything, he deserves to be shot after getting his ass kicked.

He shot out the guys back window afterwards, too, so throw on some attempted murder charges. :2 cents:

brassmonkey 07-07-2013 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 19707079)
That piece of shit went up to the other guy's car and threw the first punch. If anything, he deserves to be shot after getting his ass kicked.

He shot out the guys back window afterwards, too, so throw on some attempted murder charges. :2 cents:

is that a laser gun? i didnt see any kick :1orglaugh

baddog 07-07-2013 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 19707113)
is that a laser gun? i didnt see any kick :1orglaugh

Apparently there was no shooting in the video; but you know how Tony is

brassmonkey 07-07-2013 08:10 PM

white on white crime go figure that shit :helpme in a nice neighborhood :Oh crap

baddog 07-07-2013 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 19707121)
white on white crime go figure that shit :helpme in a nice neighborhood :Oh crap

:1orglaugh yeah, that looked like Trailer Park Boys meets The Jeffersons

brassmonkey 07-07-2013 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19707122)
:1orglaugh yeah, that looked like Trailer Park Boys meets The Jeffersons

omg!!!! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Colmike9 07-07-2013 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19707120)
Apparently there was no shooting in the video; but you know how Tony is

That video didn't show a shooting, but afterwards the guy shot out the rear window of the two guy's truck and played the 911 call about it on the news.

brassmonkey 07-07-2013 11:15 PM

i bet that big ass ego shriveled up like a blowup doll when they saw that gun


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