News flash the president isnt in charge of the federal reserve and that's a bush appointee. Bernanke is an expert on the great depression so he knew what to do.

Once a white man is president again, you will see all those groups slowly disappear. No tea party rallies when bush was giving tarp like candy.

What are these 'unfair policies' of Obama's that stifles Web Commerce in particular?

Really? That's the best you could come up with?

/disapoint.

It is up to the voter to dig deeper and do some research. Your vote is so important that politicians will spend millions of dollars to get. Instead of just watching the ads and clapping at the usual emotional talking points that each politician has, people should take advantage of Google and other tools to find out what he or she has really done in the past before casting your vote.

Nice idea but it won't happen. Corporate America funds the parties and politicians they expect to give them sweet deals to in return. It's impossible to change the system. The only way you can fight back is with your vote.

The food stamp program doesn't "cost" anything. It's actually a good "investment". Every dollar spent on the food stamp program generates $1.84 into the economy in terms of economic activity. A 2002 George W. Bush-era USDA study which found that "Ultimately, the additional $5 billion of FSP (Food Stamp Program) expenditures triggered an increase in total economic activity (production, sales, and value of shipments) of $9.2 billion and an increase in jobs of 82,100," or $1.84 stimulus for every dollar spent. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supplem...stance_Program


When did Obama do that?

You are 100% Right.

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KKK and Southern slave owning states/Confederate States were Democrat. Not the other way around.

BTW... most rich southern democrats in addition to being insanely racist, have money because of plantations/slavery and the slave trade. But its ok., they are on the "right team" .... so no reparations for them.

?I love this quote. It?s from Mahatma Gandhi. He ran a gas station down in St. Louis for a couple of years. Mr. Gandhi, do you still go to the gas station? A lot of wisdom comes out of that gas station? ? Hillary Clinton, Former Secretary of State

?You cannot go to a 7-11 or a Dunkin Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I?m not joking!? ? Joe Biden, Vice President

?I mean you?ve got the first sort of mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and nice-looking guy.? ? Joe Biden, Vice President

?[Harry Reid] was wowed by Obama?s oratorical gifts and believed the country was ready to embrace a black presidential candidate, especially one such as a Obama ? a ?light-skinned? African American with ?no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one.?? ? Harry Reid, Senate Majority Leader, as quoted in the book Game Change

Some junior high n*gger kicked Steve's ass while he was trying to help his brothers out; junior high or sophomore in high school. Whatever it was, Steve had the n*gger down. However it was, it was Steve's fault. He had the n*gger down, he let him up. The n*gger blindsided him."

-- Roger Clinton, the President's brother on audiotape

Blacks and Hispanics are "too busy eating watermelons and tacos" to learn how to read and write." -- Mike Wallace, CBS News. Source: Newsmax

"He's married to a white woman. He wants to be white. He wants a colorless society. He has no ethnic pride. He doesn't want to be black."

-- California State Senator Diane Watson's on Ward Connerly's interracial marriage

"Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds."

-- Former Klansman and current US Senator Robert Byrd, a man who is referred to by many Democrats as the "conscience of the Senate"

"I think one man is just as good as another so long as he's not a n*gger or a Chinaman. Uncle Will says that the Lord made a White man from dust, a n*gger from mud, then He threw up what was left and it came down a Chinaman. He does hate Chinese and Japs. So do I. It is race prejudice, I guess. But I am strongly of the opinion Negroes ought to be in Africa, Yellow men in Asia and White men in Europe and America."

-Harry Truman (1911) in a letter to his future wife Bess

'Hymies.' 'Hymietown.' -- Jesse Jackson's description of New York City while on the 1984 presidential campaign trail.

"will not let the white boys win in this election." -- Donna Brazile, Al Gore's Campaign Manager on the 2000 election

"White folks was in caves while we was building empires... We taught philosophy and astrology and mathematics before Socrates and them Greek homos ever got around to it." -- Rev. Al Sharpton in a 1994 speech at Kean College, NJ

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Why would I waste my time explaining more in depth to someone that does not matter?

Jim Crow Laws - Brought to you by Democrats

Segregation... Democrats gift to the USA to contain "uppity negros"

"A few years ago, (Barack Obama) would have been getting us coffee." -- Bill Clinton to Ted Kennedy

“The point I was making was not that Grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn’t. But she is a typical white person…” -- Barack Obama

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Only a Canadian

So once again it's all Bush's fault.

The Republican party needs to get their shit together. Between Bush, McCain and Palin, and then Romney.... They had better come up with the perfect candidate next time around.

What gets me based on what I read here is how many conservatives look to also be racists. Not all are and some are reasonable folks but some of the racist hate I see here from American conservatives is way over the top. Sometimes I got the feeling that the poster had another tab open at Stormfront and posted it here by mistake.

Yes, there is probably not a single active poster on this forum that is going to disagree with the fact that the world is a very confusing and disappointing place for you.

What "values" are people "defending"?

I don't think that any person in here is for ANY of the social "values" of the Republican party.

But for any of you to say that the Obama administration's record on killing people with drones, having the NSA spying on us, the whole gun running debacle in Mexico, and the IRS scandal is all "okay" because "Bush did it too" is ridiculous.

HEY LIBERALS, what to have an honest conversation about Race in America? Yeah, sure you do.

In the United States of the Perpetually Offended, leftists have long utilized political correctness to silence their ideological opposition. They silence their opponents with charges of racism and bigotry while subscribing to the very beliefs they criticize. As discussed here, most black people hate white people. Thats OK, its their right to hate whomever. But the false doctrine of political correctness forces white people to accept every negative action from every culture or be criticized as racist or some other character flaw. This is hypocrisy on steroids. Moreover, crime and poor behavior from blacks and other races is glossed over or totally ignored by leftists and race-baiters of various races. How can we have an honest conversation when honesty is never entered into the equation? More and more crackas are coming to that realization.

President Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder have said on numerous occasions that America needs an honest conversation on racial issues. An honest conversation is the last thing these PC leftists want. They want to further their agenda by blaming Americas trouble on evil white men while excusing the violence, ignorance, and irresponsibility of too many minorities.

White liberals and race-baiting blacks are worse! They disingenuously say they want to have an honest conversation but their agenda is to blame whites while sweeping every negative behavior of blacks under the carpet. Anyone who watched the Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman debacle sees quite easily that white liberals and black racists werent concerned with truth and justice. They wanted the neck of a white man to further their leftist agenda and keep blacks voting Democrat. They even invented a new race in calling Zimmerman a Hispanic white (a first!) to drum up an actual white-on-black crime.

And the shark just got jumped.

Total and complete insanity that politicians have actually convinced otherwise intelligent people of this kind of nonsense.

Mark, ANYBODY being on foodstamps is a goddamned tragedy. It represents a family unable to care for themselves. It's not a "good investment" in any way at all...neither financially, socially, or culturally.

Perhaps if these people could get JOBS...then they wouldn't need foodstamps. That is what has been missing for a few years now.

Pres. Obama came into office and said he was "focused like a laser" on job creation.
Then he spent the next year and a half on ObamaCare. :(

"Shovel Ready" jobs he claimed with a ONE TRILLION DOLLAR "stimulus".
Then I see him on television 6 months later LAUGHING and making a joke that the jobs "weren't as shovel ready as we thought". :(

No Mark, foodstamps are NOT a "good investment". You sound like fucking Nancy Pelosi. And that bitch is as crazy as Michelle Bachman. She might hide it a little better. But she's out there in crazy land just as far.

I just think it's so telling that no one will just have the balls to just stand up and say "I'm a Proud Republican" even though SO many of you reading this are indeed Republicans.

It's just fun isn't it? Witnessing the last gasps of a dying band of wretched white GOP throwbacks - this whole flare up of the ultra-racist Tea Party and all the anti-abortion and anti-voting "Conservative Values" lost cause... It's just the raspy death rattle of a bygone rich/old/white regime from yesteryear.

The GOP is dead, they just haven't claimed the body.

Dude that statement just scored you the biggest Dumbfuck of the thread award.

Nancy Pelosi Quotes:
"But we have to pass the bill so you can find out what is in it"

"Every month that we do not have an economic recovery package 500 million Americans lose their jobs."

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region"

"We haven't really gotten the credit for what we have done"

No Nancy, but perhaps history will end up giving you the "credit" you deserve. :(

And of course don't forget this big CNN headline of Nancy Pelosi:

"Pelosi: Food Stamps and Unemployment Give ‘Biggest Bang for Our Buck’"

What's your point, I never brought this up in this thread, you did!

So you believe that the GOVERNMENT printing up 85 billion dollars a month is a good thing?

Not really about the cost, it's about how many people are forced to get on the program because of a shitty economy. Let's face it, if the economy is doing well, then less people would need food stamps, not more!


he said it during the presidential debates, he claimed credit basically for oil production being up, when in fact, he has issued less new leases than Bush or Clinton in the same amount of time. Production is up on private land.

Here's a better question..how does it feel to be a republican OR a democrat?

Either way, you're pulling for an utterly corrupt party which has been selling the country out to the highest bidder for decades. Well played, dupes:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

See sig.

DTK you're just wasting your time trying to tell these people the truth.

It's a "team sport" to them. Their "side" can do no wrong. If they are Republican then it's all Democrats fault. If they are Democrat it's all Republicans fault.

They don't seem to have ANY foundations at all. I'm reading this whole thing and realizing that "Democrat" does NOT equal "liberal" in the traditional sense at all.

These Faux Liberals are "okay" with a Democrat president ordering drone strikes around the world (killing innocent men, women, and children in the "collateral damage"), spying on us, and the IRS targeting people.
And that's just the shit we KNOW about.

It blows my mind.

If you were to plug in the name "Richard Nixon" in the place of "Barrack Obama" for all these things...Democrats would be marching in the streets and Rolling Stone would be running article after article calling for his impeachment.

It's outrageous.

These people are not liberals. They are DEMOCRATS. That is their "team". They will cheer for them no matter what they do.

I think that's a dangerous mindset for our country.

True liberals turned on Pres. Lyndon Johnson over the Vietnam War. They didn't give a damn if he was a Democrat or not.

Today's "DINO's" (Democrat in name only) could care less. Let the killing, and spying and non-transparency, and Obama prosecuting more "whistle blowers" than any president in history continue!
Who cares?
Our TEAM is winning! Yay!

OK now this is a classic response - usually coming from a Republican who is embarrassed to admit it. The whole "Both Parties are just as bad" argument is just an absurd flight of fancy that holds no water.

Granted there are members of both Parties who are corrupt as fuck and we all know that Lobbyists hold too much sway with both sides of the isle. But if you think that Democrats are in the same league with racist, sexist, classist, elitist, homophobic, demogogic and fear mongering Republicans then you sir are one seriously misinformed motherfucker.

My point is you make every attempt to vilify Obama by bending the truth and cherry picking stats to back your non-sense.

One example is your quote about the price of gas. You've said time and time again that "When Obama took office gas was $1.86 a gallon". And this is very true. But this isn't because Bush did so well in office, but instead because the economy collapsed. Gas was at the highest price EVER while Bush was in office. You cherry picked a single stat and bent the truth, when the direct opposite was true.

You also argued that drilling permits were down under Obama. But that too was misleading, you cherry picked your stats, and in the end domestic oil production continues to rise.

Fifty percent of us believe in the Republican party. If you want to argue and debate that's fine, that's great - But don't quote political websites with a slant who and giving you half truths based on cherry picked stats. Research your facts from a non political source before you post such nonsense.

You know what happens when you ASSume...you apparently didn't see my sig. Also, I haven't voted dem or rep in 20+ years

And you call me a seriously misinformed motherfucker :1orglaugh
I agree that in terms of the racist, sexist etc part, yes, the repubs are playing the part of 'batshit crazy cop' (as opposed to bad cop), but for the most part, that's window dressing.

In terms of what I was talking about - both parties selling out this country to the highest bidder for decades - almost every member of congess/senate/president is bought and paid for by the huge money interests who got them elected and get them big money gigs after they leave office (aka The Revolving Door). It's not just a few of them, it's not just some of them, it's virtually all of them.

Try doing some unbiased homework, you'll see. And if you're at all intellectually honest, I believe you end up saying "Wow, I was one seriously misinformed motherfucker.":2 cents:

Maybe so, but ya still gotta fight the good fight:thumbsup

Truth is they are way up and have been there for a long time, under Bush there was a spike and it went right back down, under Obama,it had stayed up.
Read all of it Richard, I said oil production is up, not because of Obama, but despite him, leases on public or federal land is way down, it's on private land that it is growing. He claimed during the debates it was up, like it was his doing, it wasn't!
Geez, that's it? You don't agree with it, so it's nonsense?
Hell Richard, in this thread alone, I told you two things you didn't even know about!

You didn't know that they are printing up 85 billion a month at the federal reserve

And you didn't know that in a congressional hearing the IRS agents said the orders came from the top to target conservative groups.

You really should read more

I wonder why I do this at all.

its not Vend its the pundits he listens too. He parrots them back. All these guys have so much to say but during bush spending like a fiend not a fucking word. Also these people yelling liberal you don't know what a fucking liberal is because if you knew you would know obama is not a liberal he is gop lite like most of the democrats. Wanna look at a liberal look at Elizabeth Warren, obama aint fucking close. But its what they are told so they parrot it back.

once again maybe the pundits dont tell you how it works. oil goes to the highest bidder not where its pumped out of.

Again, stop with the half truths. Gas didn't "spike" under Bush. It was a continuous increase.

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There wasn't a "spike". Gas went up and up and up under Bush. In 2004 gas was $1.70. By 2006 it had nearly doubled.

(http://gasbuddy.com/gb_retail_price_chart.aspx)

And this is all you know how to do - you take a half truth and you spin it. "Oh, it was just a spike" while ignoring an eight year trend where gas continued to go up during the entire course of his two terms.

You just spin lies.

derp derp derp

With Vendzilla it's no longer about politics. It's more about him getting all of his information from one source that is obviously slanted and accepting it as fact - and he never checks anything. These are facts and figures that any thirteen year old can verify online quickly.

He just said that gas prices "under Bush there was a spike and it went right back down" which couldn't be any further from the truth. Yeah, gas prices down all right - as the economy came screeching to a halt! The truth is gas prices were low when Bush took office, and then doubled and quadrupled.

The problem is when you you follow politics too closely and you start to accept "your party's version" of everything as fact when it isn't. Both political parties spin their stories, which is there the term "spin" comes from. Vendzilla doesn't verify any of his facts, he just accepts them as truth.

I bet you most Americans are just like him - they believe their party's story as fact, and never check anything.