On the one hand there are the war mongers who are said to be capable of lying about anything just for more wars.

On the other hand are the conspiracy theorists who say no matter what is presented, it is false and their country should not go to war.

Really.. there's barely a difference.

Why would you think the west would want to get involved?

Syria doesn't even have that much oil. no heroin. no pipeline.
As far as i know there is no real pressing need for the West to be involved.

Except for stopping children from being slaughtered. So i think the real question is who benefits the most from getting the higher powers involved, and what would the outcome be?

i.. what?

it's the guys who have been caught committing war crimes the entire time. Its the guys who just did this a few months ago, the same guys that have been receiving arm shipments from nato countries.

there was just a leak by a security company where the saudis were attempting to hire them to pose as russians to 'attack something' and be filmed.

Has the US ever found or "released" any evidence of wrongdoing by the rebels?

I personally have a hard time believing news sources anymore.
I have traveled the world quite a bit, i am in asia right now in fact.
I have met people from everywhere, from both sides of the equation.
Our side is told this or that, their side is told this or that. Who knows what is the truth anymore? Rarely has a story added up the way the news outlets make it seem.

Action will be taken i am sure, i just hope it is the right one.

I follow your adventures with some envy as you travel around.

Both sides are equally convinced that no matter what is presented, it's faked by the opposition. That's why it begs the question what would it take to convince then. What would people need to be presented with, or is everything false unless it supports their side.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh right

I used to hang out with a guy getting his PHD in history, he was fascinated by world war 2.
He was a late child, his father actually fought in world war 2. For germany.
Anyway, his big paper was about germany, and he was trying to find out where the money came from.

Anyway to cut it short. It has been said many times in the past.
History is written by the victors.

These days the news is written by the powerful

so many people have their minds already made up about it and usa, i doubt that even the most incontrovertible facts would not prove to them the truth of the situation.

Cmon man that was 10 years ago, most of the users on this board were either 8 at the time or are so senile now that they don't remember this speech.

:1orglaugh worst is that you are right ....:Oh crap

Yes.

Both in the ME and in this thread.

Repubs and Dems CAN get along! Both want to rush headlong into stupid trillion dollar wars on Arab states for made up reasons!

Bitch, the Congo has been engaged in perpetual war since 1990s,

"Rwanda twice invaded its larger neighbor in the 1990s and sponsored rebels trying to topple the Kinshasa government. Millions have died since then in Congo's eastern border area, a patchwork of rebel and militia fiefdoms in an area rich in tin as well as tungsten and coltan ores."

but no one is telling the US to step in. Don't pretend it is about people's lives.

but ... hummmm... but ... they use machetes ... that is all good :thumbsup

Why does this sound so much like when they wanted to attack Iraq?

WMD's anyone?

Same shit, different day.

I did not say I believed it, just what people like Direct Fiesta, wehateporn and others of that ilk want us to believe.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

aww that must have been a lovely conclusion to his paper :1orglaugh

wonder if he ever figured out why germany never took out the biggest piggy bank in europe

Lies lies lies

who did it then? the rebels killed their own families?

Did you support the war on iraq?

rotfl 8 char

nope my family and friends fought in it tho.

The families of the 'Rebels' are in Qatar, Chechnya and Guantanamo Bay :2 cents:

Anyone confirm with TheKing about any of this? I'm sure his sources at the Pentagon are keeping him in the loop.

:thumbsup:thumbsup

Yup, a great big pile of steaming horse shit:thumbsup

same shit, different assholes....

that is too complicated for the posters here affected either by senility or plain brain malfunction ....

They believe that the '' rebels '' are .... syrians .... lol .... :1orglaugh