1) Because what he said is playing out. Just slower than expected.

2) Clark isn't a schmuck. It doesn't make sense for a retired four star general who had so much respect and trust to just make shit up for the sake of making it up and risk tarnishing his reputation. Men like him want to leave an legacy, and the quickest way for him to ruin his would be to start telling lies just so he could sell a few books.

You don't have to bomb a place to attack it. And it often starts with the USA training their forces to fight "terrorists" and/or arming them.

US special forces are already there training them to fight against Al-Shabab, and Obama is going to send them weapons.

http://rt.com/usa/us-deploying-troops-order-749/
(US deploying troops to 35 African countries )

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/04/0...ns-to-somalia/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1516943.html

http://rt.com/usa/us-military-lebanon-iraq-335/

http://www.armytimes.com/article/201...s-Lebanon-Iraq



http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-...troop-mission/

http://news.antiwar.com/2012/01/10/o...o-south-sudan/

And you forgot the first boogieman they created, Kony. Excellent creation to get our foot further in the door with full support.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/send...lp-south-sudan


This is how it starts, with baby steps and making deals with the governments and war lords. Getting the pieces of the chess board into place.

Pay attention man, there are a lot of small but significant and strategic moves happening globally. Resources are being secured and the US is in a race with China and Russia to secure as much as Africa as possible. As soon as the middle east is on lock down, the boogieman fight will focus and shift to Africa. Count on it.

This is a fairytale. No one (the USA or any other country) is able to intercept the modern ballistic missiles. Because they (the missiles) are flying too high and too fast :2 cents:

The thing about being an empire is, you have to keep expanding. And you can't continue an expanding empire without resources.

Right now China and Russia are securing a lot of Africa while the USA plays with it's dick and gets sucked into war after war in the Middle East. Eventually the US Empire is going to want everything it can get in Africa, and needs to start securing it now or risk being shut out.

Sudan:
Somalia:
Lebanon:
And so on.

i still think the end game is china maybe a fall of communism repeat from 1991 in 2021. china is still marxist-leninist, and it is very difficult to get news out of that country.

Its THEIR civil war, other countries has nothing to do with it.

The Senate and Congress will take most of the blame but it will hurt Obama too. I just think it will be worse for the republicans but I suspect it won't make much difference for either party unless things go really bad in Syria.

As things stand now the republicans will lose the most in 2012 as they are doing absolutely nothing to help the economy move forward as Obama has been blocked at every turn.

Flip the script. The US breaks out in a civil war 10 years from now. Militias and civilians (labeled as "insurgents" or "rebels" to lessen the blow of killing them) go against the National Guard / Military and police. The "rebels" start to lose. China or Russia runs to the rebel's aid and arms them so they can better fight the US government.

Such a thing is unthinkable and would be seen as an act of war by the US gov. Yet, time and time again the west meddles into affairs it doesn't belong in.

That said, if the Syrian gov really did gas their own people, they need to have those chemical weapons taken from them or lose their ability to use them again. Even in war, among the civilized their are rules. But they have to be 100% sure who did it, and it needs to be a fast, well targeted military strike, and then it's over. Let the war continue and allow Syria's future to be decided by Syrians.

for someone who chides everyone else for thinking they know wtf is up, you sure seem to think you know wtf is up.

3rd world country only making money with weapons = United States of Africa

But the United States isn't an empire. We don't need to expand. We don't take land. We bitch smack people, and then leave.

Perhaps we should change that.

I didn't make up the links I posted, those either really happened or are about to happen. The real wtf is up is clear in all of those links. And if you spend some time looking deeper into each one, you'll get a lot more info about it. I just quickly listed them. A lot of shit going on right now that is hardly being talked about.

However, I could be wrong and it is all a coincidence. In fact, I hope I am wrong because it sickens me to watch this happen over and over again. However, I'm just looking at what is actually going on and comparing it with what Clark said, and he's a very reputable person. The pieces fit.

You know I have come to actually enjoy your internet personality. I hope you are similar in normal life.

So to be the devil's advocate to your argument with 2 questions.

You say and imply that the chemical weapons need to be removed at any cost. How do you feel about the United States and great Britain's use of depleted uranium in Iraq? (Recently Isreal used depleted uranium on Syria)

Depleted Uranium has/is causing hundreds perhaps thousands of birth defects, not to forget that there are thousands of people dying from cancers and that their environment is now a severely toxic wasteland incapable of being cleaned up.

How is taking a nation's nuclear waste and bombing innocent people somehow acceptable but poison gas is not?

Just to make my perspective clear : I do not believe in nations or any form of gouvernement. I believe a happy world is one in which all politicians and military commanders have had their necks placed in the yoke of a guillotine. The only side I support in this conflict (and all conflicts) is that of the innocent. I view people that support war, declare war and willing go and fight wars as subhuman cancerous disease.

They do take land: economically.

It seems perfectly fine for the U.S to use chemical weapons in Vietnam and Iraq but when other countries do it we need to bomb them back to the stone age. This country is full of ignorant hypocrites.

i try to stay current. i'm not going to pretend i understand everything i read and know but those links don't prove your comments, which i don't get to begin with.

because the op thread topic is a bullshit assesment that the "end goal" of obama's is the same as every president before him for the past few presidents- iran, based on a bullshit article that doesn't even remotely report that.

but that's not enough conjecture for gfy, you have to add to it with hallway chittychat about this big plan to invade 7 nations that not only isn't based in fact, it's not supported by history.

that's going to get me to reply.

Wrong.

By definition, the USA is an empire.

Wrong.

Most major countries are securing resources currently for the future. They will be needed and will be what future wars are fought over. As populations rise globally, the demand for those resources become greater.


http://i.imgur.com/5fkRi2q.jpg

Wrong.

The USA was built on stolen land.

Wrong again.

We almost never leave once we invade a country. The "battle" may be over, but we never leave.

I'm not trying to persuade you. You're an intelligent dude who will come to his own conclusion when the time comes. I'm just pointing out events that are actually taking place that you were not aware of. Maybe when you have some free time you'll dig into those and get a clearer picture of what is going on there and the set up that's taking place for future conflicts.

we'll see. that said, there's no clear picture to be had from reading some internet stories. it takes a lot more than that. but i do have a fundamental understanding of the diplomatic picture between african nations and the usa.

but tbh, my goals these days are to stay focused on shooting porn pictures and learning how to play the guitar.

i need to do a better job at that.

we should give him another nobel peace prize.. just to see what happens..

Do we really need another war?
Barry got in office because Bush was waging 2 wars and people were sick of it, period!
Now those same people want us to attack another country? Fuck You!
If we need to send a message fine, park some submarines off the coast and launch a volley of Tomahawks at the presidential palace or where ever Assad lives and vaporize the building. Get good intel to make sure he is there. If we miss, wait for him to stick his head up and make that block of mud huts disappear. But lets not place our servicemen in danger and let's not kill thousands of civilians in the process, OK?

So, what happens when you blow up a chemical weapons depot?

Ah, so we can ignore anything and everything coming form you that has anything at all to do with politics. Thanks for the clarification.

Sorry, you are wrong


em·pire
ˈemˌpī(ə)r/
noun

an extensive group of states or countries under a single supreme authority, formerly esp. an emperor or empress.

turkey should invade, if the conflict is not kept within syria but it has to be regional rather than worldly then so be it. where are all the bleeding hearts for african children one dies every two seconds.

If the USA are after these 7 countries then can someone explain to me what's stopping a Sadam v2 taking advantage of the chaos in Iraq and coming to power ? Same for Libya , Egypt Afghanistan
Then it's the same problem all over again
It's not as if they are installing their own governments in these countries.

gotta research all those vaccines somehow!

You are more than welcomed. (sincerely)

Listening to politicians has the invariable effect of taking even the most thoughtfully prudent rational individual and turning them into no better than that of a dumb dog that is content to chase it's own tail for amusement.

It is the same arguments, the same excuses and the same head games played over and over again. In layman's terms... They lie and we die.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh That's the funniest thing I've read all day.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

what we are seeing is a twenty first century colonisation of the middle east by americans or the new jew, the zionist. they learnt it from the british, they didn't know better.

Close but not quite. What you have is a Globalist takeover that is falling apart; due to the awakening of the people.
The nightmarish sycophants will attempt to get more violent and bold as they vanish forever.
Freedom will reign (no pun intended)

Where have we increased land in the past fifty years? Hawaii?

Where is the US "securing resources"? We were just in Iraq, one of the major oil producers in the world, and we just... Left.

Did we steal land from them? Or did a nation rise up around them?

This might be true. We are still in Europe, and still in Japan.

However, seems we have left Iraq (have we fully left yet?) and we plan on leaving Afghanistan.

Seems the plan is "no boots on the ground" which means missile strikes.

correct, it is that too. globalisation in my mind depending how those companies help society is okay, but all i read about is suffering, misery... pain, all of that they are supposed to be causing. also an out of control mass-media continuing to divide the united states. how do people like bill o'reilly and bill maher sleep at night.

which means cowardness

The DOD says it would take 75,000 just to secure the chemical weapons..

I guess what I don't understand is where the line is between humane and inhumane war or weaponry. Chemical warfare killing a bunch of people is some how worse than bombs or guns doing it? Dead is dead. Yes it is sad for children and women to be killed in wars but it is a fact of life and part of EVERY war that has ever happened on earth.

It baffles me why we need to intervene in a civil war. Has absolutely nothing to do with us beyond our need to sling our huge dick around showing it to a bunch of countries who already think our huge penis size is a facade of days gone by, and they are sadly correct in that thinking.

They both know the truth. And sleep less and less as the noose gets closer to their neck.
Lies need truth to exist.

Nuremberg like trials are not far away for the traitors of our Constitution.
You can see them panicking now.

Only You would believe that.

I guess you did not watch the congressional hearings. The "plan" is no boots on the ground but Kerry refused to put it in writing because you never know what might happen. "Syria could implode" which would require we enter to secure the WMD's from being used against us or our allies. In other words, we are going in.

We don't leave, we use mercs.

I wouldn't call it cowardness. Since 2001 the US has over run two countries and removed their governments from power, and much more. At the same time, the United States is tired of dedicating it's resources and spending it's money to deal with problems that should be handled by the US. If the a revolution breaks out in Quebec or Mexico City, then we can get involved. Otherwise, this is a Middle Eastern Problem, or even a Russian problem.

At the same time we could just toss over missiles all day long without much effort.

The US needs to stay out of this.