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directfiesta 09-06-2013 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19788560)
you pick that comment out of this thread to take issue with?

you're a fucking troll. you can namedrop and bold in rebel names all you want, i doubt anyone here is impressed.


nevertheless shitface, out of 100,000+ syrian civilians killed in the uprising you claim only 330 of them are children.....and you accuse me of falling for media bullshit?

fuck off dimwit , you are way over your head here.

take your meds ... and try to comprehend what you read ... and read again .:2 cents:

_Richard_ 09-06-2013 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19788448)
One of the biggest problems I see with society in the near future is too much information, and who is producing it.

This thread started with an article that looked rather credible. But a quick read and nearly anyone should see this is a very poorly written news article that has no facts and really isn't news - it's very vague general pointing of fingers. Then factor in the article was written by someone with no news history, backed up by someone who claims to be an AP reporter when in fact they've only written one or two articles or them... And you have a lot of bullshit that people believe.

Then we have you with talking bullshit and giving us three sources, none of which validate your point. The first site says China is sending a single ship to "watch", the second site is a link of general China Navy news that fails to mention Syria, and the third is Infowars - The peach tree in my backyard is a better source of news than Alex Jones is.

In the future this will become more of a problem with people like you saying things that aren't really true, but some people are sheep and will believe them.

You aren't the solution, you are the problem.

understood. Best of luck with your 'credible' news.

directfiesta 09-06-2013 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19788560)
you pick that comment out of this thread to take issue with?

you're a fucking troll. you can namedrop and bold in rebel names all you want, i doubt anyone here is impressed.


nevertheless shitface, out of 100,000+ syrian civilians killed in the uprising you claim only 330 of them are children.....and you accuse me of falling for media bullshit?

fuck off dimwit , you are way over your head here.

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Three days after the attack, medical charity Medecins Sans Frontieres confirmed that three hospitals it supports in Damascus treated about 3,600 patients with "neurotoxic symptoms" on the day of the attack. They said 355 of these died.

355 died, total, women, children, men .... capitche ???

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23927399

Now, please start your name calling ... just confirms who you are :2 cents:

Rochard 09-06-2013 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19788946)
understood. Best of luck with your 'credible' news.

Bring me creditable news and then we can talk.

Every news company in the world is tellng the same story yet we still question it, then here you are with an article written by someone I don't know "helped" by someone who claims to work for the AP but really doesn't while spitting out bible verses, and I am supposed to believe you and no one else?

I want the US to walk away from this but you just don't have it...

_Richard_ 09-06-2013 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19789087)
Bring me creditable news and then we can talk.

Every news company in the world is tellng the same story yet we still question it, then here you are with an article written by someone I don't know "helped" by someone who claims to work for the AP but really doesn't while spitting out bible verses, and I am supposed to believe you and no one else?

I want the US to walk away from this but you just don't have it...

my article? it was posted by the OP.

Why would any of the US based news report this, if they're already ignoring the findings of the first chemical weapons attack?

Rochard 09-06-2013 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 19788654)
U.S. intelligence intercepted negotiations that Iranian intelligence agencies have given the order to attack the militants the U.S. embassy and other diplomatic offices in Baghdad in the event of a strike Western countries on Syria, wrote in a Friday newspaper Wall Street Journal.

According to the newspaper, citing unnamed representatives of the secret services in the U.S., he gave orders to General Qasem Soleimani, commander of Iran's elite special forces, "Al-Quds" from the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps.

If the government of Iraq is handing out orders to attack the United States... Isn't that an act of war?

These people just aren't too bright. We were able to re-program their centrifuges in their secret nuclear facility.... We know exactly what they are up to.

directfiesta 09-06-2013 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19789091)
If the government of Iraq is handing out orders to attack the United States... Isn't that an act of war?

These people just aren't too bright. We were able to re-program their centrifuges in their secret nuclear facility.... We know exactly what they are up to.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

An american talking about ''acts of war '' .... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Rochard 09-06-2013 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19789089)
my article? it was posted by the OP.

Why would any of the US based news report this, if they're already ignoring the findings of the first chemical weapons attack?

Are you not listening?

The article has no facts at all and fails to list any sources. This is not findings of an investigation; This is one person who interviewed someone who has no knowledge about anything, then quotes bible verse.

_Richard_ 09-06-2013 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19789098)
Are you not listening?

The article has no facts at all and fails to list any sources. This is not findings of an investigation; This is one person who interviewed someone who has no knowledge about anything, then quotes bible verse.

you think this is an investigation?

Rochard 09-06-2013 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 19789096)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

An american talking about ''acts of war '' .... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

With Syria I am talking the direct opposite and saying we should stay out of it.

But when you have a government issuing orders to terrorists saying "attack", well, that's another matter.

femdomdestiny 09-06-2013 09:37 AM

Russia “will help Syria” in the event of a military strike, Putin stressed as he responded to a reporter’s question at the summit.

“Will we help Syria? We will. And we are already helping, we send arms, we cooperate in the economics sphere, we hope to expand our cooperation in the humanitarian sphere, which includes sending humanitarian aid to support those people – the civilians – who have found themselves in a very dire situation in this country,” Putin said.


http://rt.com/news/putin-g20-syria-meeting-511/

deltav 09-06-2013 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19789100)
you think this is an investigation?

He's talking about the article, not whatever various governments are saying. The article quoted random people and took them at face value, didn't attempt to corroborate anything that could be independently verified.

I feel like you're smarter than you let on, but choose to only half listen to what people are posting here. Then when your response doesn't make any sense people have to stop and re-explain themselves. It's distracting.

deltav 09-06-2013 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19788453)
China has never been interested in projecting itself outside of it's borders with the exception of Korea.

China does not have a blue water navy - a navy that can leave it's sphere if influence and travel the world - and doesn't seem to want one (their recent aircraft carrier set aside). I don't see this as changing in the near future. China isn't about to go to war with anyone over Syria or any other country.

This is true to an extent, but China only recently made the transition from agrarian to industrialized society. On top of that there was massive social upheaval not long ago with the Communist & then Cultural Revolution, again despite its huge size it simply had little capacity for expansion beyond its borders. Also historically it had much of what it needed (resources, living room, etc) already, though the various factions did fight over these all the time.

Historically speaking the culture has been somewhat inward-looking, but past behavior isn't always indicative of future - for example the Japanese had their extremely inward focused sakoku ("isolation") policy for centuries, then modernized rapidly after Cmdr Perry in the mid-1800s, less than a century later they were conquering half the Pacific and East Asia. Likewise, if you'd talked to any European leader in the 1800s about Russia being one of the two sole global superpowers in the 20th century, they'd laugh you out of the building.

I've read some material saying they are working toward a blue water navy, but obviously this isn't going to happen overnight. I'm not saying they're going to start messing around in Syria by any stretch, just that in a couple decades the global landscape is going to look very very different and China will likely be a large player in that. Certainly they're throwing their weight around in the global economy on an unprecedented scale for them, and moreso every year.

_Richard_ 09-06-2013 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by deltav (Post 19789167)
He's talking about the article, not whatever various governments are saying. The article quoted random people and took them at face value, didn't attempt to corroborate anything that could be independently verified.

I feel like you're smarter than you let on, but choose to only half listen to what people are posting here. Then when your response doesn't make any sense people have to stop and re-explain themselves. It's distracting.

how do you independently verify something in a war zone, that would entirely change the dialogue of several governments and corporations?

there is a lot that is pointless in discussing, due to a lack of information and relevant comprehension

as i feel you're smarter than you let on, do you think i should spend the time posting all the links of fake and misleading articles from 'credible newspapers'?

Rochard 09-06-2013 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deltav (Post 19789193)
This is true to an extent, but China only recently made the transition from agrarian to industrialized society. On top of that there was massive social upheaval not long ago with the Communist & then Cultural Revolution, again despite its huge size it simply had little capacity for expansion beyond its borders. Also historically it had much of what it needed (resources, living room, etc) already, though the various factions did fight over these all the time.

Historically speaking the culture has been somewhat inward-looking, but past behavior isn't always indicative of future - for example the Japanese had their extremely inward focused sakoku ("isolation") policy for centuries, then modernized rapidly after Cmdr Perry in the mid-1800s, less than a century later they were conquering half the Pacific and East Asia. Likewise, if you'd talked to any European leader in the 1800s about Russia being one of the two sole global superpowers in the 20th century, they'd laugh you out of the building.

I've read some material saying they are working toward a blue water navy, but obviously this isn't going to happen overnight. I'm not saying they're going to start messing around in Syria by any stretch, just that in a couple decades the global landscape is going to look very very different and China will likely be a large player in that. Certainly they're throwing their weight around in the global economy on an unprecedented scale for them, and moreso every year.

Seems they finally got an aircraft carrier....

BAKO 09-06-2013 01:54 PM

I only trust Drudgereport.com news

madm1k3 09-06-2013 05:25 PM

http://www.mintpressnews.com/witness...eapons/168135/

The original article was written by Dale Gavlak and Yahya Abadneh for Mint News Press, it has been recycled by many online sources for many opinion pieces (like the OP article).

Who is Mint Press News: http://www.mintpressnews.com/about-us/

Seems pretty credible to me, A journalist with over two decades of Middle East experience working with a journalist on the ground in Ghouta.

Just want to make sure when we are shooting the messenger we are aiming at the correct target

_Richard_ 09-06-2013 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19789491)
Seems they finally got an aircraft carrier....

http://www.debka.com/newsupdate/5640/

little more credible? or should we wait

noshit 09-06-2013 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19788291)
The third page is... Infowars? Really? That is not a news site and is utterly stupid.

Hate to bust your bubble but that article was written by Paul Watson; one of the few true journalists left ...and he is as objective as you can get. He doesn't own Alex Jones.

As for Infowars, you can't get more objective or more documented news. Anywhere. Period.
Everything AJ talks about is already documented.

I know you don't have time to do research for yourself so it's hard for you to stay objective that way.

onwebcam 09-06-2013 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BAKO (Post 19789498)
I only trust Drudgereport.com news

Matt Drudge Breaks Up With Republicans, Joins Libertarians
Read more at http://www.activistpost.com/2013/09/...hCSOdBxoIsT.99

baddog 09-06-2013 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 19788694)
lol, the examiner.com, seriously?

He likes to think he is informed

Captain Kawaii 09-07-2013 02:52 AM

There are some gems in this thread. Just dropped the link here over to Mort Saul, one of my favorite activist comedians of the beat generation. He should be able to riff some funny shit out of this.

86 and still kickin in Mill Valley...

http://www.bing.com/search?q=mort+sa...ZI&form=MOZSBR


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