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Just cruising through this thread

I pay for healthcare with money, not insurance, so I just go to the doctors I am told are the best for whatever I or my loved ones need. If I want a 2nd opinion, I don't have to get anyone's opinion/approval either.

PROFIT MOTIVE.







time to remove it....why the fuck are health CEOS getting paid millions per year based on the premise that more and more people will get sicker and sicker

Much like the baddog story except I would never consider going to a doctor for allergies and when I had acid reflux type symptoms at one point, I changed my diet for a few months and it went away forever.

Your story is exactly why I do not go to doctors. They don't call it practicing medicine for nothing.

You're an all cash business. :winkwink:

There is some level of truth to this. Healthcare should not be a 'for profit' business.

I agree with you wholeheartedly. Especially when you have to sit there 1-2 hours to get in because they are backed up. Or if you miss an appointment, they have the balls to send you a letter threatening to drop you because the doctor's time is valuable.

Why is Health Insurance So Expensive?


Because it is so easy to defraud the system, and it happens so often

There's a cardio-thorasic transplant unit in Edmonton, Canada, that is every bit as good as anything going on in the US. If I ever needed such a thing I'd go there.

And my bill afterwards would be $0.00

I'm seeing evidence of just how true this is right now. I am currently receiving facet block infiltration injections to my lower back, about every three months, next procedure is in early December. These include six injections along with six pre-injections to numb the target areas, so twelve injections in all... per treatment. I've done a little research online lately and am seeing posts on various medical message boards from US patients saying they are being charged anywhere from two to three K per needle. More if done in a hospital or surgical unit under full anaestesia. One guy said his bill for three treatments was over $120K. Another said he's been billed $45K for one treatment. Then on another site an actual board-certified doctor says that a $2k per injection charge is normal, plus another $3k for anaestetic, and of course various other charges and costs are then added on.

Curiously, yet another medical site says that the ACTUAL cost of the procedure is around $800 total.

Things that make you go "hmmm..." :(


Like I said, December will be my 3rd go at this. My back is shot and getting worse all the time, due to a long history of scholiosis and corrective surgery along with some 35 years of disc degeneration and osteo arthritis setting in. But the cost to me for ALL of my doctor visits, tests, MRI's, x-rays, and the injection procedures themselves, has been and will continue to be $0.00.

(yet some here continually remain skeptical and critical of our system in Canada, a thing that always both amuses and confounds me)