100 Daily Mail fans...

Yeah, it's awful when someone asks to see some evidence before coming to a conclusion about something. So annoying!

Yet there is no evidence? Whodathunkit? The Daily Mail has a famous and well known history of printing lies to stir up racial tensions.

They're also very homophobic, do you think it's OK for them to print the anti-gay stuff too? How about this?

"‘Homosexuality IS a departure from the norm: We must beware of our civilisation being battered by the PC brigade’"

what about the link you posted? there was blatant claims of intimidation in there, are your own links not evidence enough for you?

^^^ This! It was in the news, but nobody did anything afterwards? So completely apathetic, it's scary. A fucking guy got decapitated on the streets by one of those animals for god sake.

You know who else is also very homophobic? That's right - muslims. Are you still going to defend their right to protest when they start protesting against gays?

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islam_and_Homosexuality

Also their right to protest is the right to protest against the government. I don't believe they have the right to protest the legal actions of individual citizens. That's called harassment. If they are against the sale of alcohol then they will have to protest to the government to ban the sale of alcohol for all citizens.

there were news reports of "racists" trying to burn down mosques but as far as I can find out almost all of them turned out to be insurance jobs.

Yes. As long as it is a peaceful, legal protest.

I believe in freedom of speech. That means EVERYONE must be allowed the same freedom of speech unless they are breaking any laws.

If I want the right to march against apartheid, or pro CND, or anti Poll Tax then it would be massively hypocritical of me to say that I am allowed to protest against things I believe in, but other people are not allowed to protest against things they believe in because I don't agree with them.

I know this makes people uncomfortable, but you either have freedom of speech or you don't.

Some pigs are more equal than others, etc.

As pornographers, the last thing we should be doing is trying to censor.

Here's a question, why do you think no other major news outlets ran the story?

Claims, but no evidence.

And no, links are not evidence.

You do know just because something is on the internet doesn't mean it is true, right?

And do you agree with the Mail's homophobia as well as their xenophobia? Are you against gay marriage too?

It was reported in press all over the net and in traditional media - Not just The Mail - Eventually you have to accept that it is true...

'I am not even sure what you are saying is true' is just the way you avoid having to defend your own arguments.....

You do it all the time...

It's mentioned in the Al Jazeera article posted above.

So why did you post the link? Admit it, you cocked up.

Like I said before, I've never brought a copy of the Mail so I don't know their stance on most things.

Xenophobia? This has nothing to do with xenophobia and everything to do with standing up for the British lifestyle, it's culture, values, history and customs. I'm sorry if you think that everything that happened before the last Labour government wasn't worth preserving but many of us do. I've nothing against people coming to the UK and making it their home but only if they can contribute to the society already here and certainly not in the huge numbers we have seen, do you honestly think that the swamping of the indigenous peoples as seen in London and the Midlands and Yorkshire can be helpful in anyway? Either socially or economically for the people stuck in the middle of all this? I can guess your reply, it'll be the same as most ultra-left replies, nothing of substance but full of accusations like "racist" and "bigot" in the hope that'll be enough to quieten down people without having to come out with real facts that hold up to scrutiny.

Really? Can you link me to bbc.co.uk, The Guardian, The Times, The Independent etc covering it? I had a look and couldn't see it.

I'll accept it is true when I see some evidence. A load of blogs reposting the Mail story doesn't mean it happened.

I note with interest how you avoid my question about the homophobia in the Mail.

The Times - http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/u...ard-2013_12_13

I didn't avoid the question - I just didn't see as relevant to this thread - FYI I think The Mail is an appalling rag that I wouldn't wipe my ass on...

To correct the idea that they were protesting outside non-Muslim shops.

What are they? Invading other countries and claiming them as our own, slavery, fucking up our industry so all we can export is arms? Jellied eels? Music Halls?


Can you list the things you think are worth preserving that the pesky Muslims have somehow magically made stop please?

And finally, does it disturb you in anyway that your views are the same as the National Front?

Well done, one out of 6 asked for is better than I thought you'd do.

Still no evidence of the letter though...wonder why?

I see, you just don't think people should be able to legally protest anymore. Good job Section 28 was a while ago, because it would be bad if you had to tell them to stop their protest, right?

I believe that threats of violence were made - That is not legal - I am entitled to believe that right?..

what about the EDL? whenever the EDL come out, so do the UAF bootboys trying to silence them with violence, and I'm sure you know that whenever the press report and blatantly try their best to imply that it was EDL members arrested, its actually normally UAF members that have been arrested.

Absolutely. If you chose to believe something without a shred of evidence printed in a rag you wouldn't wipe your arse on that is entirely your prerogative.

I have no idea what point you are trying to make?

Because allegedly some press may or may not have reported something inaccurately about a National Front, sorry, EDL, demo, that means that the Mail is accurate suddenly?

You're not very good at this.

Oh dear. Where did I call you a racist or a bigot? The National Front want to keep Britain British, whatever that means. You seem to share their views. I wondered if you found that uncomfortable.

Try again.

I note with interest you fail to list the traditional British things that the Muslims have stopped happening.

You make this just too easy man.

I would never wipe my arse with The Times...

10 or So
 

Ummmm a bit Phobic as in fearful painting every Muslim as crazy Terrorists because of these (10 or so) Idiots.

As a rational non fearful person I see 10 idiots in a city of 8+ Million.

I see many peaceful Christians, Muslims & Jews everyday.

Just because Terrorists like McVeigh rampaged against the Govt.,as a good 'Christian' does not mean every Christian is a crazy nut job.

Here's a Nut Job 'Christian' pretty much similiar views of the 'Keep Britain British' National Front etc Retards...

Anders Behring Breivik (Norwegian pronunciation: [ˈɑn:əʂ ˈbeːrɪŋ ˈbrɛiviːk];[6] born 13 February 1979) is the perpetrator of the 2011 Norway attacks. On 22 July 2011, he bombed government buildings in Oslo, killing eight people. He then killed 69 more people, mostly teenagers, in a mass shooting at a Workers' Youth League (AUF) camp on the island of Utøya.[7][8] In August 2012 he was convicted of mass murder, causing a fatal explosion, and terrorism.[9][10]

On the day of the attacks, Breivik electronically distributed a compendium of texts entitled 2083: A European Declaration of Independence, describing his far-right militant ideology.[11][12][13][14] In them, he lays out a worldview encompassing Islamophobia, support for "far-right Zionism"[11] and opposition to feminism.[15][16] The texts call Islam and Cultural Marxism "the enemy", argue for the violent annihilation of "Eurabia" and multiculturalism and advocate deportation of all Muslims from Europe based on the model of the Beneš decrees.[17][18] Breivik wrote that his main motive for the atrocities was to market his manifesto.[19]

Does that mean all 'Christians' are the same, err no.

Neither do these 10 or so represent mainstream 'Muslims'.

I think most of us are aware that there are good and bad Muslims - The question is what do we do with the bad ones, the ones that are attempting to impose Shariah law - Is telling them to fuck off reasonable or should we just grin and bear it?..

Rational
 

Just to inject a bit of Sanity and Reality here...

1. Changing the Countries Laws requires full power of the Elected Officials within the Westminster System with the majority of the Country Agreeing, that AIN"T happening with these 10 idiots or even if 100% of the 'Muslims' voted for Sharia in the UK it AIN'T happening,

2. Which part of it AIN'T happening not even a real possibility do you not get?

3. 'Muslims' are a very small minority even in Britain, they can NOT decide ANYTHING.

Oh, The Times has evidence of the letter and the violence?

Please post it!

Round them all up, put them in camps and gas them.

Don't let pesky *facts* spoil their misguided Daily Mail led rants against those annoying darkies with their funny beards and hats.

I agree with some of what you said except that in this case they are allegedly protesting the actions of individuals - not government bodies or regulations. Their rights to protest end where another individual citizen's right to freedom of association and economic freedom begins. When they protest against individuals and the businesses of individuals that is harassment and they should stop or be charged.

So what if someone was born muslim and the muslim faith is against alcohol? Should individuals not be free to follow the teachings of their religion or not? I was born christian but I do not follow all of the christian teachings and rules and I would be pretty pissed off if someone harassed me because of it.

Like I said before if they are against the sale of alcohol they have to protest against the government and not against individuals even if those individuals are muslim. Their religion does not give them the right to interfere with the personal lives of other people.

No point arguing with someone who only cares about being annoying. :2 cents:


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Allegedly is the key word there.

religion of peace

Protesting with a burka on reminds me of the klan.

Whether it really happened or not is irrelevant to the central point of the argument I am trying to make. People or groups of people should not be able to harass other citizens for not complying with religious doctrine.

saw this quoted "That means EVERYONE must be allowed the same freedom of speech unless they are breaking any laws."

Laws like threatening behaviour? For someone who is such a pussy he rings the police up over someone on the internet saying they are going to slap him, funny how threatening to give someone 40 lashes is deemed by that same person as 'peaceful protest'.

Another here who has read the daily mail less than 10 times over 34 odd years, and is not racist, and understands that eg the blokes who beheaded that soldier don't represent muslims as a whole, but can see what is happening is not good.

Also funny how if you are against sharia law, and threatening behaviour, you are 'one of those racists' - y'know, all lumped together in the same group in a generalisation, in the same way anti-muslim guys lumping all muslims together generalise.

There are Muslims in the part of London I live in 'enforcing Shariah law' - Physical and verbal intimidation of innocent people - We have signs on walls and lampposts telling us we are in a Muslim area and must respect their laws...

It's just a matter of time before someone is killed by these 'enforcers'.....

It IS happening...

Is there any part of that you do not get?....

Wtf?
 

Nobody can enforce 'Sahria' Anything in Britain it's Fucking illegal even to post signs.

Did you make a Police Complaint with some evidence, why not?

They know it's happening - The videos are all over YouTube - It's been in the news for months...

take your head out of the sand...





http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/law/article3674837.ece

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/opinio...cle3672194.ece

Or are decent muslim leaders/muslims stating on record they are against something that isn't taking place? Being against bigotry is one thing, blindly believing this isn't happening is ridiculous :2 cents:

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Just because some idiot is ranting on the street does not mean it's the Law of the Land.

and just because it isn't the law of the land, that doesn't mean it isn't happening. But yeah, you know best, even though you have never been to any UK town where this is going on :1orglaugh

want to marry a 14 year old girl in the UK? Just become a muslim :thumbsup http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/...cle1323833.ece

but yeah, nothing to see here! move along!

drinking beer in a 'muslim law' area in the UK? Well have this bottle in the face..



nothing to see here! you racists and bigots are making it all up!

those tolerant gay loving muslim extremists, good luck to them 'peacefully protesting' a homosexual man :thumbsup

Oh my god quite alot of ignorance in this thread.

And Damian as you took the time to edit the quote I can tell you I don't read the daily mail, I don't have to.

The day that the last Muslim takes their last breath will be a day to celebrate.

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According to Damian, if it wasn't reported in the Herald, it didn't happen...

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