Looks great !

I'm with you on 5th element and gattaca!

still looks great

i watched the blu ray and the thing about that is you can see when she swims nude in fact its a body thing to make her look nude.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_fiction#History
:)

You forgot the 911 conspiracy movies

I'll see your wiki link and raise you 3 links with quotes:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History... n_precursors

http://condor.depaul.edu/dsimpson/awtech/scifi.htm


http://andromeda.rutgers.edu/~hbf/sfhist.html

Without question, mine are:
The Day The Earth Stood Still (1951), followed by War Of The Worlds (1953)

http://ilarge.listal.com/image/16647...ill-poster.jpg

http://www.dvd-covers.org/d/77275-3/...rlds_hires.jpg

Blade Runner to me is the most overrated movie of all time, yes, its excellent but not nearly as good or as important as many others.

space indians? nope :1orglaugh some of you will watch any bullshit movie :helpme time machine was a good one (original)

"the first seminal work to which the label Science Fiction can be logically attached".
He means its the first great sci-fi work, not the very first book.
that's just an opinion though, a book about going to the moon surely must be sci-fi? one called Somnium written in 1608 does that, Isaac Asimov considers it the first sci-fi book. Or how about the ancient stories of the Ramayana written in the 4 century BC which is often used by ancient astronaut theorists as proof of alien visits. that's just two examples
"a novel that many now accept as the progenitor of modern science fiction"

I hear ya, it's all opinion. I'm certainly not claiming to be an expert, nevertheless, my comment was true- I was watching a documentary and in it was made the assertion that Mary Shelley is the mother of Science Fiction. I can see how that makes sense.

I don't doubt you did :)

Also, It seems we aren't disagreeing, the assertion that she is the mother of science fiction doesn't mean she was the first to write science fiction.

Did the term 'science fiction' even exist before Frankenstien? I can live with Mary Shelly being dubbed the mother of it. There are always going to be 'softer' or lesser known works that came prior to hers, but it was her monster that served to be the 'big bang' of the science fiction genre. Before it there are bits and pieces, hints and mentions, and as I said several lesser known works or even known works that simply didn't have the massive impact that Shelly had. But after Frankenstien there are a host of books, movies, and later on TV series that flooded the world with aliens, rockets, space, planets, monsters, creatures, saucers, robots, and the unworldly bizarre.

The assertion isn't that she was the first. She wasn't. But when I think of the origins of what we now know as "science fiction" she and her creation definitely comes to the forefront. No better mother could a genre like this have.

read someting yesterday which posits the opposite saying the more accurately a sci-fi film predicts the future the more dated it becomes thus.

It asserts Star Wars is superior sci-fi to Star Trek because of this, as Star Wars is myth and fiction which is timeless.

Star Trek is essentially too logical and real

Speaking of Frankenstein, the original novel is brilliant and as authentic and original as it gets, it's an amazing piece of untouched, chilling art, as far as it deals with humanity and questioning it.

Speaking of movie adaptations, this one tops it for me:

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV...0,214,317_.jpg

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109836/?ref_=nv_sr_3