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JFK 01-30-2014 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 19963424)
I know I finally made it!!! Lol

Congrats :thumbsup:thumbsup

whOaKemosabe 01-30-2014 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 19963245)
Discuss....


TORONTO -- Anti-poverty activists say hiking Ontario's minimum wage to $11 an hour effective June 1 will still leave workers living in poverty, while convenience stores say it shouldn't result in higher prices.

Premier Kathleen Wynne announced the 75-cent-an-hour increase, the first change since the Liberal government froze the wage at $10.25 an hour four years ago.
Sonia Singh of the Workers' Action Centre says the minimum wage needs to be increased to $14 an hour to give workers enough to live on.


Read more: http://www.cp24.com/news/province-ra...#ixzz2ru852VTZ

You have a extra few bux to spend on scarfs

EonBlue 01-30-2014 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19963454)
a .70 wage increase will kill off 98% of your business?

sounds like a simple inflation jump would have killed off that business, if so.

No, the $0.75 increase won't do it on it's own. But small businesses are suffering death from 1000 cuts. The same mentality that leads to these knee-jerk minimum wage increases leads to other policies that are just as damaging to small business. There is a reason why youth unemployment is 20%+ in Ontario.

The price of electricity in Ontario has gone up by 50% in the last decade and is set to rise another 50% in the next 5 years. Ontario now has the most expensive electricity in North America. This is because of the same brain-dead simpletons introducing this new minimum wage.

And because the minimum wage will now be tied to inflation it will lead to more inflation, which leads to higher minimum wage, which leads to higher inflation....etc., etc.

Sly 01-30-2014 01:07 PM

What's interesting to me about these discussions is perspective.

In this particular discussion, we have two different perspectives. That of an employee and that of an employer. The two sides go back and forth, fighting this point, arguing that point. But the funny thing is only one of those sides has experience from both perspectives.

An employer was at one time an employee, and often a minimum wage employee. Whereas an employee was very rarely an employer.

One side, dual experience. One side, solo experience.

Something to think about.

_Richard_ 01-30-2014 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 19963526)
No, the $0.75 increase won't do it on it's own. But small businesses are suffering death from 1000 cuts. The same mentality that leads to these knee-jerk minimum wage increases leads to other policies that are just as damaging to small business. There is a reason why youth unemployment is 20%+ in Ontario.

The price of electricity in Ontario has gone up by 50% in the last decade and is set to rise another 50% in the next 5 years. Ontario now has the most expensive electricity in North America. This is because of the same brain-dead simpletons introducing this new minimum wage.

And because the minimum wage will now be tied to inflation it will lead to more inflation, which leads to higher minimum wage, which leads to higher inflation....etc., etc.

i thought the price of electricity had gone up so much, because you guys deregulated and sold out to Direct Energy?

who should be, at this very moment, raping a lot of customers, specifically the elderly who don't have the energy to find out why their bills are being 'renewed' and signed up for the same services twice, on 'different payment plans'

_Richard_ 01-30-2014 01:11 PM

but i am sure, it was the brain-dead simpletons who deregulated all that legislation as well, so point to you.

CarlosTheGaucho 01-30-2014 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 19963477)
I think I solved the problem for you guys.

Make your beer prices match our beer prices.

That's right, or better match our beer prices, which is like $1.20 - $2 on tap and $ 0.60 - $ 1 a bottle.

No wonder this country consumes the most beer per capita in the world!

Sly 01-30-2014 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 19963537)
That's right, or better match our beer prices, which is like $1.20 - $2 on tap and $ 0.60 - $ 1 a bottle.

No wonder this country consumes the most beer per capita in the world!

I seriously think we are on to something here.

Joint Nobel Peace Prize?

EonBlue 01-30-2014 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19963530)
i thought the price of electricity had gone up so much, because you guys deregulated and sold out to Direct Energy?

who should be, at this very moment, raping a lot of customers, specifically the elderly who don't have the energy to find out why their bills are being 'renewed' and signed up for the same services twice, on 'different payment plans'

No that's not it. It's now mostly because of the Green Energy Act.

BlackCrayon 01-30-2014 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 19963477)
I think I solved the problem for you guys.

Make your beer prices match our beer prices.

beer is cheaper in quebec. ontario and some other provinces have retarded taxes on alcohol and only allow beer to be sold in their own beer stores. in quebec you actually have competition and gasp..sales.

Marcus Aurelius 01-30-2014 01:31 PM

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_Richard_ 01-30-2014 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 19963552)
No that's not it. It's now mostly because of the Green Energy Act.

a good name

Tom_PM 01-30-2014 01:37 PM

Every time in history that a minimum wage has been raised it has resulted in a stronger economy for all levels of earnings. Even the rich. So shut your objection holes you people waging war on the poor. Be smart and invest in durable goods.

EonBlue 01-30-2014 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19963574)
a good name

But useless policy.

_Richard_ 01-30-2014 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 19963594)
But useless policy.

i suppose it might have been better spending the money on more oil subsidies

hey look:

http://www.directenergy.com/learning...o-deregulation

they're even keeping track for us :)

CarlosTheGaucho 01-30-2014 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 19963547)
I seriously think we are on to something here.

Joint Nobel Peace Prize?

I concur,

Especially when taking into account the widespread of general ease and happiness between 8 - 12 pm - more beer could definitely solve a lot.

Especially considering all the problems the tea drinkers such as Vatican or Taliban cause to the world - even Jesus proved that water to wine was a miracle!

EonBlue 01-30-2014 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19963598)
i suppose it might have been better spending the money on more oil subsidies

hey look:

http://www.directenergy.com/learning...o-deregulation

they're even keeping track for us :)

Well, Ontario has no real oil industry to speak of so I'm not sure where you're coming from with that.

But speaking of subsidies, under the Green Energy debacle the Ontario government pays people with solar panels $0.85/kwh for electricity that they then sell for around $0.12/kwh. Guess who pays for the difference?

And you are way off base with Direct Energy. They deal in natural gas supply not electricity. Natural gas is currently very cheap so I am not sure what you are getting at with the whole deregulation thing.

_Richard_ 01-30-2014 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 19963686)
Well, Ontario has no real oil industry to speak of so I'm not sure where you're coming from with that.

But speaking of subsidies, under the Green Energy debacle the Ontario government pays people with solar panels $0.85/kwh for electricity that they then sell for around $0.12/kwh. Guess who pays for the difference?

And you are way off base with Direct Energy. They deal in natural gas supply not electricity. Natural gas is currently very cheap so I am not sure what you are getting at with the whole deregulation thing.

my understanding is a lot of the power generation is coal? now being promoted as the 'new clean source for energy'?

yes, it's called a subsidy.. if you wanted to get into taxpayer funded projects, we could look at all the major corporations in the province.

Are you sure they don't deal in electricity?

anyway, i am forced to agree in the restraints of time.. it's poor peoples fault, we should pay them nothing to save small business


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