mahogany is not used for fretboards. lol
Mahogany is used for the body and neck.
Maple, Rosewood and ebony are used for fretboards.

Granadillo is used to make fretboards due to the lack of Rosewood.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granadillo

I build Guitars. ;)

You know, I really wouldnt mind a hot neck pickup if it could be tapped.. hmmm

I've been spending some time up in the neck with rolled back high gain,, sounds really nice and brittle in split-coil mode

Thanks Eddie!


BTW- that was the point of my comment:
As for the mahog, I type my comments quickly, if it's not a crucial comment, I don't feel the need to double-check.

Nevertheless, you are correct, mahoghany is not used for fretboards.

You play quite a bit of metal right? And you have that 490 in the neck position on your LP, if I recall? You'd prolly dig it.

You left out Richlite

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richlite

Hey Fellows.

Never Forget.

The Dutch guy doesn't appreciate guitar threads. This was a political vendetta thread with only a slightly guitar oriented theme. :)

crafty!!

It's been said. :)

McNaught Phoenix Rising. I think I need this!

Weight: 8.46 lbs
Top Wood: Diamond Carve Quilt Maple
Body Wood: Mahogany
Neck Wood: Mahogany Set Thru Neck with Double Adjusting Truss Rod
Fingerboard: Ebony
Fingerboard Radius: 12"
Frets: 24 6100 Nickel
Pickups: D'Marzio Humbuckers, RMC Polydrive 1 Midi System
Bridge: Tone Pros Tune-O-Matic
Tuners: Sperzel Locking
Case Candy: Black Hardshell Case

http://mintesfiles.com/gfy/mcnaught01.jpg
http://mintesfiles.com/gfy/mcnaught02.jpg
http://mintesfiles.com/gfy/mcnaught03.jpg
http://mintesfiles.com/gfy/mcnaught04.jpg
http://mintesfiles.com/gfy/mcnaught05.jpg
http://mintesfiles.com/gfy/mcnaught06.jpg
http://mintesfiles.com/gfy/mcnaught07.jpg
http://mintesfiles.com/gfy/mcnaught08.jpg
http://mintesfiles.com/gfy/mcnaught09.jpg
http://mintesfiles.com/gfy/mcnaught10.jpg

What planet is that guitar from?

:1orglaugh

It's far out, man.

:thumbsup

Isn't that amazing.

http://mcnaughtguitars.com/

it is.

Looking over the specs, it's impressive. I think I'd opt for those wagner humbuckers. I've heard a lot of good things about em.

Who knows? Who cares?

You are saying "They went after one company, but they didn't go after the other company that is doing the same exact thing". Well, maybe there is a reason for this. Maybe they don't care about this issue but were required to look into it after a tip. Maybe they decided to test the waters with this one case first before going after others. Maybe the agency tasked with this issue can only devote a small percentage of it's time to this certain law and feels it's time would be better invested elsewhere. Maybe the agency tasked with this issue was going to after all of them, but after the first shot they decided not to but still had to follow through with other cases because it wasn't worth their time or effort.

I would like to believe that the President of the United States isn't so petty that he would have law enforcement shut down a company because they donated to the other team. Clearly I'm wrong because we have a governor who shut down a bridge to piss off another city that didn't back him.

http://www.nashvillescene.com/binary...irebirdx-2.jpg



:stoned

ADG

The inlay work on the neck is almost to nice to play on. This probably should be hung in a gallery and just looked at and appreciated.



Of course it won't be. :winkwink:

welcome to reality :2 cents:

those Luthiers are bad ass mother fuckers :2 cents:

I agree that was over the top, they are craftsmen cutting and sanding not gangmembers.

OMG they went after someone who broke the law. Its that damn Obama plotting against big business. lol
They did break the law but they did go in a little extreme.

I've spent a cup of coffee this morning reading up on this case and the laney act.

Gibson didn't break any laws, the lawsuit was a civil matter.

I'll put together a synopsis of it all and post it shortly, it's quite interesting.

I've been sitting here trying to figure out why it was criminal. Sounded like a civil issue, meaning lawsuits and cups of coffee, not SWAT teams.

This is a hashed together c&p from a variety of sources that I hope sums up what happened.

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The Lacey Act of 1900 is a conservation law in the United States.

The Act protects both plants and wildlife by creating civil and criminal penalties for a wide array of violations.

A 2008 amendment included anti-illegal-logging provisions of other countries.

Re: the Gibson case, It prohibits trade in wildlife, fish, and plants that have been illegally taken, transported or sold, based on the laws in Madagascar and India.

The 2008 amendment introduced supply-chain reporting provisions.

the Lacey Act is dependent on the interpretation of foreign laws and enforced via reporting requirements.

The Lacey Act does not require any certification. In the forestry world, 'certify' implies independent third-party certification, or government stamps, neither of which the US government recognizes as 'proof' of legality.

Historically, logging and exporting in Madagascar have been regulated by the Malagasy government, although the logging of rare hardwoods was explicitly banned from protected areas in 2000.
Since then, government orders and memos have intermittently alternated between permitting and banning exports of precious woods.

Prior to the raids- “…the government acknowledges that Gibson has cooperated with the Government and the investigation conducted by the Fish and Wildlife Service”.

Gibson Guitar Corporation was raided twice by agents carrying weapons and attired in SWAT gear where employees were forced out of the premises, the production was shut down, goods were seized as contraband, and threats were made that would have forced the business to close. In the raids, rosewood and ebony worth thousands of US dollars were seized. The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service claimed that the wood had been illegally logged in Madagascar or violated Indian export law.

The United States Department of Justice filed a civil case against Gibson in June 2011 and in August 2012, Gibson settled by admitting to violating the Lacey Act and agreeing to pay a fine of $300,000 in addition to a $50,000 community payment.

The Government and Gibson acknowledge and agree that certain questions and inconsistencies now exist regarding the tariff classification of ebony and rosewood fingerboard blanks pursuant to the Indian government’s Foreign Trade Policy. Accordingly, the Government will not undertake enforcement actions related to Gibson’s future orders, purchases, or imports of ebony and rosewood fingerboard blanks from India, unless and until the Government of India provides specific clarification that ebony and rosewood fingerboard blanks are expressly prohibited by laws related to Indian Foreign Trade Policy. The Government agrees to provide Gibson notice of any such clarification from the Government of India in the future and a reasonable period of time (60 days or as otherwise agreed) to address the potential change in the understanding of the law as it relates to shipments received by or en route to Gibson.

Between June 20, 2008, and November 17,2009, Gibson did not ask for or obtain paperwork or official assurances from officials in Madagascar that the wood it was purchasing from Madagascar through its German supplier was legally harvested and exported from Madagascar, notwithstanding the information received by Gibson during the June 2008 trip to Madagascar. Before November 2009, Gibson further did not ask for additional paperwork or other confirmation from its supplier that the wood it was purchasing from Madagascar was legally harvested and exported, although the execution of the search warrant. Instead, Gibson relied on the fact that T.N.(the German supplier) was an established, FSC (Forestry Stewardship Council) chain of custody certified supplier. Before ordering or accepting delivery of the fingerboards, Gibson should have taken a more active role and exercised additional diligence with respect to documentation of legal forestry practices in the areas of Madagascar from which those shipments from its wood supplier may have originated. Information received by the Gibson representative during the June 2008 trip to Madagascar was not further investigated or acted upon, prior to the continuing placement of orders with the supplier, T.N. Information sent to company management by the Gibson representative and others following the June 2008 trip to Madagascar also was not further investigated or acted upon, prior to the continuing placement of orders with the supplier, T.N. Instead, Gibson continued to purchase Madagascar ebony after June 20, 2008.

Translation: A Madagascar law allows the export of finished fingerboards but not unfinished “fingerboard blanks,” which would leave the finishing work to Gibson, adding frets and shaving fractions of an inch off the wood pieces. A Madagascar company was given a special dispensation to export existing stocks of rosewood after the passage of this Madagascar law, and Gibson received that company’s wood through a German company, which was also certified by an outside environmental group as forest-friendly. It turns out, the Madagascar company did not have a dispensation for ebony, but Gibson was getting the wood through two respected dealers, as far as it was concerned. Because a Gibson employee visited Madagascar with Greenpeace in 2008 and prepared a report, which went to higher-ups, addressing some of the risks of violating Madagascar law, Gibson should have taken additional steps to prevent the import of this Madagascar ebony.

“We felt compelled to settle as the costs of proving our case at trial would have cost millions of dollars and taken a very long time to resolve. This allows us to get back to the business of making guitars. An important part of the settlement is that we are getting back the materials seized in a second armed raid on our factories and we have formal acknowledgement that we can continue to source rosewood and ebony fingerboards from India, as we have done for many decades.”

CEO, Henry Juszkiewicz commented, “We feel that Gibson was inappropriately targeted, and a matter that could have been addressed with a simple contact a caring human being representing the government. Instead, the Government used violent and hostile means with the full force of the US Government and several armed law enforcement agencies costing the tax payer millions of dollars and putting a job creating US manufacture at risk and at a competitive disadvantage. This shows the increasing trend on the part of government to criminalize rules and regulations and treat US businesses in the same way drug dealers are treated. This is wrong and it is unfair. I am committed to working hard to correct the inequity that the law allows and insure there is fairness, due process, and the law is used for its intended purpose of stopping bad guys and stopping the very real deforestation of our planet”.

So what's your opinion. Was Gibson just unlucky and CF Martin lucky? Or was it politically motivated attack on a republican supporter.

My opinion is this is law enforcement issue, period.

One company was targeted by law enforcement for breaking the law. There are other companies doing it; Some of them in a public way. We don't know why one company was targeted and not any others. Maybe someone called in a tip, maybe they plan on going after all of them but want to see how the first case ends before pursuing it further- maybe they'll decide it's a waste of time and effort, and not pursue other cases.

Unless you can connect the dots all the way to the White House.... You've got nothing.

Why would Obama want to punish someone who didn't support him? Fucking fifty percent of the country didn't support him, and his approval record is even lower; That's a pretty long list of targets.... And it's pretty pointless because even without their support he still won.

Oddly enough I don't see Minte complaining about the governor of New Jersey ordering bridges shut down to piss off someone who didn't support him.

I don't drive on New Jersey bridges. I do Buy Gibson guitars. And to keep it straight. I said Eric Holder, not Obama.

Is it hard to believe that Holder would abuse his authority?

I was going to point this out yesterday when your detractors kept bringing up Obama, but I get tired sometimes of pointing out the obvious around here.

I do think Holder over-stepped his boundaries and unfairly targeted Gibson. Especially with the unneccessary use of force.

Stupid ecologists...

Anyway, that wood was already cut, what did you want them to do with it? Burn it?

OMG! This is a thing of pure beauty. I love the craftsmanship. :thumbsup

Yeah - Mostly hard rock and metal but I do dable in other areas.

I just love how the 490 get brittle with vol rolled back and tapped. A little bit more bite would be nice.

I don't think I could play this without standing in front of a mirror to find the frets haha

I didn't think I'd like the Granadillo but I actually quite like it.

Seems some folks think there's some value in the Government series Les Paul

http://www.ebay.com/itm/gibson-gover...item20df5e6884

I wonder what the final price will be? It's already 3x street price

That must be the secret one that Gibson made with the solid gold pick ups.

:1orglaugh like the diamond series, with the 1 carat of diamonds.

it's the last 5 minutes, let's see if there's a mad dash for this.

someone just spent a lot of dough for a Les Paul studio!

E.Holder bought it.. What a moron.

took me a minute. :1orglaugh