Meanwhile on the Ukraine... :2 cents:

so you invaded a neighboring country and are now shooting down aircraft flying over it? I thought you are there on a peace keeping mission to protect Russian speaking citizens in Crimea? :1orglaugh

really he doesn't need a reason

A "no-fly zone" like in Libya? :winkwink:

Actually you are not quite correct. They say that MQ-5B was not shot down, but it was simple intercepted (taken under control) and landed by this funny-looking toy:

http://www.rusarmy.com/pvo/pvo_vvs/i...r_avtobaza.jpg

As about the reasons... Russia absolutely legally has military bases in Crimea and course it can shot down or intercept any flying objects inside the security zones. I thought this is obvious :winkwink:

You also said that Ukraine was invaded by Russian army. Please tell me when and how exactly did it happen?

Meanwhile in Moscow...

http://img.gazeta.ru/files3/249/5951...x302-68520.jpg

http://icdn.lenta.ru/images/2014/03/...aeb2817b9a.jpg

http://img.gazeta.ru/files3/241/5951...x302-53105.jpg

LIVE video:

There is written on the first big banner: "For Russia and Ukraine without Putin".

gfy ruskies aren't supported by russian people!!!
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1135953 :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Какой же ты гнилой человек по жизни. Тфьу бля...

Drones are cool while they are being used against stone-age Afghans or US civilians suspected in terrorism, but they become useless against the enemy that can gain control over them. Human pilots are still irreplaceable :2 cents:

and

Looks like there is hope.

Russia can legally have up to 25000 troops in there. So what exactly is shown on your videos? A regular rotation of Russian contingent in Crimea?

Around 93% of voters in Crimea have backed joining Russia and seceding from Ukraine. Turnout 80%. I guess this is called democracy.

Yeah, regular rotation of russian contingent :1orglaugh:1orglaugh
You are the probably the only one in the world to belive in it....

What for? For those some Ruskies who still think that fall of USSR empire was bad, eg. Putin and his group....

I was talking about the first video. The second one was shot IN RUSSIA. The military units returning from exercises. What's wrong with that and how is it related to the Ukraine? Please explain.

I believe only idiots like you think that way :2 cents:

Actually most western politologists and russian political studies think that way about Putin :1orglaugh .
Thank you for name calling, you have shown your colours ....

Name calling? Sorry but "idiot" is your medical diagnosis because I mature and sane person can not think that way. Congrats :thumbsup

One of the most important books on Putin.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/03...ld-superpower/
"Putin did all he could to bring back the life he had loved: the closed world of the Soviet Union and, even more important, the KGB"

"To that end, the Russian leader does not want a return of the USSR, despite that provocative 2005 quote about its catastrophic demise. Rather, he is anxious to create a buffer of compliant states around his country, argues Mr. Gaddy."

ok. still name calling like a children without arguments :1orglaugh
once again you have shown your own colours...

Try to read this one (less bullshit for sure):

http://www.thehouseofoojah.com/media...allowsBOOK.jpg

Maybe the time to make a GFY poll what people thinks about you. You would be surprised to see that most people here thinks about you in opposite way :1orglaugh.

where are your arguments?

Arguments? What exactly arguments are you waiting to hear? The science fiction or real ones? There is no interest in slowly dying Baltic Countries for Russia. They were annexed by Stalin as a buffer zone between Soviets and Nazi Germany for a case of war. This was one an the only purpose. After the war they were absolutely useless and people here were happy to get rid of them in the beginning of 90s. I was living here in those times and I do remember everything clearly.

The Ukraine has a strategic role for both Russian economics and military purposes (Crimea is an unsinkable aircraft carrier in Black Sea). Russian gas pipelines to EU are also go through the Ukraine. So at least, there is a reason. But what's about Baltic Countries? Tell me please any reason to get them back? To feed them all from our pockets?

Where are yours? You have started this discussion, so like any normal man, you have to show your arguments first. maybe you are a lady? In this case please accept my apologies.

If that will bring you some relief, why not? Please go ahead on that :thumbsup

According your logic, there is no interest in dying Baltic countries, so then they must be shitting themselves for no reason:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...A221J520140303
Strange people live in pobaltic countries....


Thats how West and Baltic countries think nowadays and most western political science analysts too as I told you:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...nctions-russia

"It has been no secret that, since he came to power, Putin's strategic objective has been to reassert Russian control over its so-called near abroad. Since the days of Peter the Great, Russia has assumed that its own security has required it to control all the territory around its own borders.

Putin's objectives are not limited to Crimea. He has a passion to bring the whole of Ukraine under the ultimate authority of Moscow while acknowledging only its nominal independence.
But not just Ukraine. He finds equally unacceptable the independence of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. He showed, in 2008, similar contempt for the independence of Georgia."

Of course, according Putin fans its not true at all...

I am going to make it for sure...lets tommorow the results.

again small attempt to make insults. can you dude post without insults?

Nice "independent" sources and...

http://pix.echtlustig.com/1307/cool-story-bro.jpg

You have started insulting first. Why do you expect a kind reply? Re-read your own posts, please.

Source on 80% turnout?

E.g.: http://www.pravda.com.ua/rus/news/2014/03/16/7019184/ (an Ukrainian source).

Nope, this is called land-grab. Democracy is when the majority in a country as in the WHOLE country votes, makes a decision, and acts on it.

So, if the WHOLE of Ukraine has a referendum and votes to join Russia, now THAT would be democracy. This is Hitler-style land grab, nothing more, nothing less!

Like in Kosovo?

Russia has been doing no more than other Imperial powers. The cries of foul sound hollow from countries that separated Northern Ireland from Ireland, had massive empires themselves. Broke away Kosova from Serbia. Supported the US invasions of Vietnam, Cambodia, Oman Laos, Angola, Iran, Libya, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Panama, Grenada, Honduras , Boliva, Somalia, Bosnia, Haiti, Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen, to name only a few....

The EU and the US have funded and supported nationalist movements against Russia ever since Pres Wilson policy at the end of WW1 in response to the Russian Revolution.

Before that they were Imperial Russia's ally.

Nationalism and hatred of a countries neighbours is not the answer to the divisions of wealth and power in the world.

Man, are you sure you are not ex-KGB ;)

That's textbook deflection tactic right there:
http://changingminds.org/techniques/...deflection.htm

"I wasn't the only one. Everybody else does it too."

If if others have done it, that all of a sudden makes it OK? Not the way I see it.

Yes, once rules were changed somewhere, they will be changed worldwide. We live in the global word :2 cents:

Good to know, now Russia can play in the sandbox all by her lonesome self

:winkwink: 8char